Science Marches On
 

I guess it depends on whether it's being spun (I mean, offered) as a neutral presentation of data by serious scientists, or whether it's at least somewhat clear that what the scientists have written has been edited by non-science people. Also, who is supposedly the author of the reports? If it is the actual scientists, do they have veto power over the changes that are made by the policy people?

The shock over ties between drug companies and people running studies on the drugs they market -- and even more shock over the fact that unfavorable studies are not published -- suggests that generally people think scientists tell the truth as they see it.

Great. Now I'm starting to think the "people are basically good" thing is a load of crap.

Science Marches On
 

Sometimes I fear I am too subtle. I hear that criticism a lot. It stings.


No, I am not saying that Bush is the first president to centralize policy. He may do it more forcefully or thoroughly than any recent predecessors, but that is not relevant.

Yes, I am saying that scientific reports, like intelligence assessements, should be based on science (or intelligence) -- and not tailored to fit policy. Otherwise, it's not science. It's a policy argument presented in the guise of science.

These were not policy statements. They were (purportedly) reports of scientific inquiries and studies.




I disagree with your view of the nature and purpose of the changes. I don't think they went merely to "tone", but rather to content, including entire paragraphs cut.

PT SUCKS ARSE
 

GO BACK TO INFIRM WITH THE SHITTEY SPAM, U DOUCHEBAG!

PT SUCKS ARSE
 

Hunh. Interesting feature of the site.

censorship?
 

Again.....................sad. The faux intellectual liberal brain trust here has again demonstrated that they are bankrupt. Much like their ideolgical idols, Marx, Lenin, Castro and bin Laden.....

Science Marches On
 

I don't play Civ online. Anyway, you should pay attention. Everything this administration knows about running a country it learned from playing Civ. Or that's the way it seems.

Science Marches On
 

do you know of a page with the Cheats listed?



I love the Ages of empire cheat where you can get race cars with machine guns. That shit equalizes out some mongolian cavalry, let me tell you.

Science Marches On
 

Thanks for bringing the "online" part of the comment to my attention. I hadn't noticed it, and it offends me. I play with myself, thank you very much. No Civ with online riffraff. I have standards!!!

Full Text of The Downing Street Memo
 

Admins, Don't forget to delete these too (the human reality over there that our so called free press won't show ) :

http://www.bushflash.com/y2.html

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http://www.bushflash.com/antiwar2.html

http://www.bushflash.com/liberation.html

http://www.bushflash.com/strangelove.html

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

http://www.bushflash.com/occupied.html

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!

Full Text of The Downing Street Memo
 

Questions:

What kind of Tax structure should we set up in Iraq?

Should foreign nationals be incarcerated in Iraq for stealing sundry items (ie cigarettes, socks, etc.)?

Full Text of The Downing Street Memo
 

Why are we setting up a tax structure in a foreign country?

Do natives/citizens get incarcerated for that kind of stuff?

Full Text of The Downing Street Memo
 

Straight to Gitmo for you, boy, if you've been stealing any socks. It's against the TOU.

Full Text of The Downing Street Memo
 

dear, we all expect GGG's socks to whiff like mad (i have a continuing whiffTM on him!) but we expect you to be quicker than this.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

According to CNN, the soon-to-be-published book discusses Helms' friendship with Bono (!), among others, which changed his views about AIDS.

Remarkable. I guess no one is entirely beyond redemption.


On the other hand....


I guess those uppity niggras should have just been more patient. They'd probably be allowed in most of our schools by now.

censorship?
 

Hey, thanks for remembering.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

Rumor has it that Helms was tutored in this regard by none other than Senator Byrd.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

It's nice to know that Repubs aspire to be only as enlightened as the most vicious, racist Dems.

Good luck to you and yours with this. Y'all must be so proud to have won back the South.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

That wasn't the point and you know it. Something about those in glass houses . . .

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

Since when does Byrd live in my house? Why do you assume that, if I attack a piece of shit like Helms, it means that I am calling all Repubs pieces of shit? Is it possible in the Club-world to talk about an individual without trashing a group?


And my point stands. I identify a particularly odious racist, who remains completely committed to his particularly odious views. You would never join in that attack, because the racist is a Repub, and you are a faithful observer of Reagan's Eleventh Commandment. Thus, you look for the worst possible Dem, and comfort yourself that, as long as that Dem remains as bad as any Repub then all is well in the Repub household.


I hate Jesse Helms, for many reasons, none of them being that he is a Repub. I know that you do not support his views. Yet you leap to his defense, solely because he is a Repub.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

It's laughable to suggest that your post had nothing to do with politics. The only reason why you posted is because he is a Republican. I've never seen you post anything denouncing Byrd or any other DEM racist (and there are plenty) for that matter. So please kindly dismount your high horse and tether somewhere.

I am in no way defending Helms. I hate all racists, whatever their
party affiliation. If it makes you happy, I hereby denounce Helms, Thurmond, and any other racist GOPer.

And for the record, the only reason why I am still a registered Republican is that I've been too lazy to re-register. I am entirely disillusioned with the political process, and now comfort myself by pointing out the hypocricies that abound on both sides.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

Go fuck yourself. I have on several occasions attacked and criticized Democrats, notwithstanding the constant refrain of your kind that Dems cannot criticize each other.

I commented on Helms because I saw an article about his memoir on Yahoo, and because I have long held him in contempt (which started with his activities in supporting the maiming and murder of children, doctors, and schoolteachers in Mozambique). I didn't see a memoir by Byrd, or anyone else, reported that day.

So it had plenty to do with politics, but nothing to do with partisan affiliation.


Good for you!!!

Sometimes, when your first impulse is a stupid one - i.e., to respond to a negative comment about a Repub, one that has nothing to do with the fact that he is a Repub, by saying "oh yeah, well he learned that from a Dem!" - it's best to wait for another impulse to come along.



Re-register as what?

And next time you point out a hypocricy by a Repub, please send me a PM. I don't want to miss it.

Upcoming Helms Memoir
 

Only when prompted (i.e., you would never be the first poster)

Indy I think

Take me off ignore, I have done this regularly. Why do you think that Gatti has high hopes of flipping me?

IRAQ CATASTROPHE -- President Cheney & Puppet Bush Lied & Millions Died
 

Did the government of the United States lie to the American people, more to the point, did President Bush and his Neocon associates lie to Congress, to initiate a war of conquest in Iraq?

This question has been given currency by a memo leaked from inside the British Government which clearly indicates a decision to go to war followed by the "fixing" of information around that policy. This is, as they say, a smoking gun.

But the fact is that long before this memo surfaced, it had become obvious that the US Government, aided by that of Great Britain, was lying to create the public support for a war in Iraq.

First off is Tony Blair's "Dodgy Dossier", a document released by the Prime Minister (and later apologized for) that made many of the claims used to support the push for war. The dossier soon collapsed when it was revealed that much of it had been plagiarized from a 12-year old student thesis paper! The contents of the dossier, however much they seemed to create a good case for invasion, were obsolete and outdated.

This use of material that could not possibly be relevant at the time is clear proof of a deliberate attempt to deceive.

Then there was the claim about the "Mobile biological weapons laboratories". Proffered in the absence of any real laboratories in the wake of the invasion, photos of these trailers were shown on all the US Mainstream Media, with the claim they while seeming to lack anything suggesting biological processing, these were part of a much larger assembly of multiple trailers that churned out biological weapons of mass destruction.

This claim fell apart when it was revealed that these trailers were nothing more than hydrogen gas generators used to inflate weather balloons. This fact was already known to both the US and UK, as a British company manufactured the units and sold them to Iraq.

Our third piece of evidence consists of documents which President Bush referenced as in his 2003 State of the Union Speech. According to Bush, these documents proved that Iraq was buying tons of uranium oxide, called "Yellow Cake" from Niger. Since Israel had bombed Iraq's nuclear power plant years before, it was claimed that the only reason Saddam would have for buying uranium oxide was to build bombs.

This hoax fell apart fast when it was pointed out that Iraq has a great deal of uranium ore inside their own borders and no need to import any from Niger or anywhere else. The I.A.E.A. then blew the cover off the fraud by announcing that the documents Bush had used were not only forgeries, but too obvious to believe that anyone in the Bush administration did not know they were forgeries!

Along with forged "Yellow Cake" documents and balloon inflators posing as bioweapons labs, the American people were shown a steady barrage of spy photos taken from high flying aircraft and spacecraft. On the photos were circles and arrows and labels pointing to various fuzzy white blobs and identifying them as laboratories and storage areas for Saddam's massive weapons of mass destruction program. Nothing in the photos actually proved what the blobby shapes were, and in inspections which followed the invasion, all of them turned out to be benign objects. One purported biological weapons lab turned out to be a bakery, and a claimed nuclear facility turned out to be a commercial mushroom farm. Not a single one of the photographed targets proved to be what the labels claimed that they were.

In the end, the real proof that we were lied to about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is that no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. That means that every single piece of paper that purported to prove that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was by default a fraud, a hoax, and a lie. There could be no evidence that supported the accusation that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction because Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. In a way, the existence of any faked documents about Iraq's WMDs is actually an admission of guilt. If one is taking the time to create fake documents, the implication is that the faker is already aware that there are no genuine documents.

What the US Government had, ALL that they had, were copied student papers, forged "Yellow Cake" documents, balloon inflators posing as bioweapons labs, and photos with misleading labels on them. And somewhere along the line, someone decided to put those misleading labels on those photos, to pretend that balloon inflators are portable bioweapons labs, and to pass off 12-year old stolen student papers as contemporary analysis.

And THAT shows an intention to deceive.

Lawyers call this "Mens Rea", which means "Guilty Mind". TV lawyer shows call it "Malice of forethought". This means that not only did the Bush Administration lie to the people and to the US Congress, but knew they were doing something something illegal at the time that they did it.

All the talk about "Intelligence failure" is just another lie. There was no failure. Indeed the FBI agents who erroneously claimed that missile tubes were parts for a uranium centrifuge received bonuses, while the Pentagon smeared Hans Blix, and John Bolton orchestrated the firing of Jose Bustani, the director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, because Bustani was trying to send chemical weapons inspectors to Baghdad.

The President of the United States and his Neocon associates lied to the people of the United States to send them off on a war of conquest.

You keep using that word
 

I do not think it means what you think it means.

http://intellectualize.org/images/ab...s-way-sexy.jpg

You keep using that word
 

I presume the image is designed to forward the campaign by giving yound lads an image to rub one out, lest they be tempted otherwise to stray?

You keep using that word
 

Is that Charlize?

You keep using that word
 

That's what I was thinking.

Then again, the "if I close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears and hum maybe sex will just go away" types aren't too big on logic, from my experience, so maybe they don't actually find the obvious traditional advertising message of that image ("if you [buy this car] [use body spray] [practice abstinence], then I'll fuck you") problematic.

You keep using that word
 

Unlikely.

I heard that that they had a similar ad prepared using Ann Coulter, but the "Scared Straight" program held the rights.

S_A_M

You keep using that word
 

I think so. Came from Fark, so I'm guessing that they didn't pay her.

You keep using that word
 

Damn. That sort of thing could lead to dancing.

You keep using that word
 

I want those shoes.

You keep using that word
 

If you looked like her, I'd buy you those shoes.

You keep using that word
 

It is Charlize, and I'm thinking that if the aim of the ad is what I think it is, it just might work.

You keep using that word
 

If the aim is what you think it is, it's a great wedge issue to separate the evangelical Xtians from the conservative Catholics.

You keep using that word
 

If there's an articulable aim to the ad, I'm all ears, fellas, but if RT found it on Fark, I'm inclined to think there isn't one.

Can any of y'all cowardly immoral liberals tell me why you get so outraged about the the "alleged" mishandling of the evil Muslims' Koran book when possessing a Bible or Torah in Saudi Arabia or many other Arab states can get you arrested and flogged? In fact many a HOLY Bible has been tossed into the rubbish bin at the Saudi airport.

Why are the liberals not out protesting this outrage?

Would y'all be in favor of NEA funding for a PISS Koran in a jar artwork? If not, why? Y'all supported the PISSChrist and the ShitMaddonna.

Hyprocrital infidels!

Oh, btw, here's some pictures from the BBQ and Beer bash at my local VFW this weekend. It was a real wicked pissah!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...is/burning.jpg

http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/_temp/koran_edit.jpg

Because notwithstanding Bush's crusade for democracy in the Middle East, we expect more from our government than we do from the government of Saudi Arabia or many other Arab states.

You keep using that word
 

I'd spill my seed over Charlize any day. I wouldn't even be all that particular about what part of her I spilled it over.

and that explains supporting the government funding of a crucifice in a jar of urine how? Why not admit that the real answer is that the liberals have no respect for God, American values or Western cultural history and full respect for anything that attempts to destroy or degrade any of the same.

Thank G-d you are destined to the same fate as your God-less Euro-trash comrades, moral decreptitude and cultural and political irrelevancy.

http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/_temp/koran_edit.jpg

You keep using that word
 

I spilled my bladder on the koran.