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futbol fan 11-16-2007 03:53 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LessinSF
He was was on a local radio station this morning promoting his new book. He was glib and said some insightful things. For example, he summed up Republicans versus Democrats as:

Republicans want leaders, like Reagan and Ike, so that they can focus on working and making money. Democrats want meetings, endless meetings.
Did he do the bit about, "Democrats drive like this, but Republicans drive like THIS!!!"?

Cracks me up every time.

Not Bob 11-16-2007 03:59 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ty is always saying he isn't as concerned if soldiers near the front torture as when people far removed do it. He has said similar things many times.
Hm. I can't recall Ty saying this, but I know that I have certainly said that there is a difference between what happens in the heat of battle and what happens at a prison. Doesn't mean to me that it's not torture if Sgt. Rock does it, but that the context provides some excuse or mitigation.

Let's assume that someone killed your father, and you killed that guy in turn. It can be considered excused as self defense, or you can be arrested for manslaughter, or first degree murder, depending upon when and where you do it, but it's still homicide.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
People can't pay me for research at this point, I certainl won't do it for free.
People can't pay me for research either, but when I tell a judge at a hearing that a witness said "X" in her deposition, and opposing counsel says "she never said that," I damn well better be able to provide a page and line number.

But, since this isn't court, perhaps I should just make shit up, and when called on it, cry that I don't do free research for people?

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Why are you so concerned about what Ty has said, or how I might perceive what ty has said? oh, wait. I know why.
Ooooh, the veiled insults again! The real question, since you brought Ty up in bashing Gatti, is why you are so concerned with what Ty says.

And I will point out that you still haven't really responded to the substance of Gatti's post. It's cool -- after all, as Rudy points out later in the transcript, he never would have broken the Mob without "aggressive questioning."

eta: Whoops. Broken, not broke. And you can have the last word, Hank.

Hank Chinaski 11-16-2007 04:52 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
Did he do the bit about, "Democrats drive like this, but Republicans drive like THIS!!!"?

Cracks me up every time.
republicans drive their suvs to the country club, democrats drive their suvs to the theatre to see "an inconvienient truth."

Hank Chinaski 11-16-2007 04:55 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
People can't pay me for research either, but when I tell a judge at a hearing that a witness said "X" in her deposition, and opposing counsel says "she never said that," I damn well better be able to provide a page and line number.
you just accepted what Ty said, plus you ain't the judge.

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Ooooh, the veiled insults again! The real question, since you brought Ty up in bashing Gatti, is why you are so concerned with what Ty says.
Translation: it bothers me that people won't leave ppnyc alone so I'll lash out at Hank, who is really innocent and doesn't deserve it.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-16-2007 05:04 PM

Dumb but Effective
 
T. Boone Pickens shows how dumb he can be:

T. Boone to Pay Kerry $1 Million

futbol fan 11-16-2007 05:05 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
republicans drive their suvs to the country club, democrats drive their suvs to the theatre to see "an inconvienient truth."
In my neighborhood the Repubs are mostly lined up in their SUVs in the street outside the Costco parking lot, waiting for a spot to open up so they can buy extra large containers of Pop Tarts, soda, frozen chicken fingers or whatever it is you people eat. They block the road and it's just about impossible to squeeze my Prius past them to get to the Whole Foods. I mean, honestly.

Hank Chinaski 11-16-2007 05:17 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
In my neighborhood the Repubs
there are no reps in your neighborhood. there are midle class people we brain washed into thinking the Rs are on their side.

SlaveNoMore 11-16-2007 07:00 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

ironweed
In my neighborhood the Repubs are mostly lined up in their SUVs in the street outside the Costco parking lot, waiting for a spot to open up so they can buy extra large containers of Pop Tarts, soda, frozen chicken fingers or whatever it is you people eat. They block the road and it's just about impossible to squeeze my Prius past them to get to the Whole Foods. I mean, honestly.
They opened a Whole Foods in Elizabeth?

Tyrone Slothrop 11-16-2007 07:18 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
Hm. I can't recall Ty saying this....
Me neither, but I'm sure Hank can link to one of my posts.

Spanky 11-16-2007 10:57 PM

From the front lines
 
Subject: Iraq Update #5 (final from Iraq) This is from my friend, now Colonel Jay George who is about to complete his 15 month tour. The majority of his time was spent with Iraqi forces. One prays that his optimism is justified by events.
Spanky


UNCLASSIFIED

Dear Family and Friends,



We are down to the last days here, God-willing. I am tired, but am rejuvenated every day that I think about kissing my wife’s beautiful face and holding on to my kids. I will not try to paint a rosy picture – these last two months have seemed to be the slowest, toughest, and most draining of the whole time we have been here. The great news is that I have seen some huge leaps toward independence by my Iraqi Army counterparts in the last weeks. The tangible progress has really given a sense of comfort and accomplishment for the team. I look forward to sitting with family and friends to tell you more when I see you, but will more than likely just want to sit with you and talk about you and catch upJ.



As always, I will be including pictures in this email to give you some of our events in the last two months. I was promoted to Colonel on 1 November and was able to share the moment with Kysa, Trey and Kyla over a VTC – truly memorable. The past two weeks have been tough on some of our counterparts who see Americans come and go, while trying to rebuild trust in relationships. I have made and lost some true Iraqi Army friends here who have put their lives on the line for me and other American Soldiers. They are growing and gaining a slow momentum. There are obviously miles to go before they sleep, but they are moving forward: It’s safer, the people are on the streets again, kids are walking to school and playing in soccer leagues, and many females are wearing more colorful outfits out in public. There have been peaceful demonstrations, food distribution, businesses opening, satellite media recently hooked up, electricity towers being installed, and the list goes on. It is 180 degrees different from six months ago when many parts of the city looked like a ghost town, and we counted on contact with the “bad guys”.



I think that the greatest thing I have learned here is all that I have to be thankful for in my life. I have taken so much for granted over and over again. When I would wake up in the morning back home, I didn’t really worry about whether it would be safe to drive to work, to talk to a policeman, to stop at a store, to sit with my family at a restaurant, or to serve in the military without threats to my family that very well could be carried out – to include death. As I get closer to Thanksgiving, I am recollecting all that I have and that I should be thankful. I sat with the Ugandans who guard or FOB today, in a church service today. I watched them take great joy in dancing and singing in worship of the same God I worship, and then I heard their prayer requests for help from the same God. It was refreshing, yet humbling to hear from another part of the world about how much I have to be thankful, yet the Ugandans found great joy in the midst of what most Americans would consider a meager living, and in tough conditions. Again, my thoughts went to how much we are blessed. It has been a real privilege to learn more about thankfulness, and our blessings.



I said goodbye to the drivers and gunners from our small team today. They have been a great source of laughter and peace. The joy of sitting with a Soldier over a plate of lunch, hearing about his family back home, and then hearing the stories or imitations of events or some of us leaders is enough to keep me going day after day. Today I sat with a young Soldier who shared some thoughts about how he was able to keep calm when getting shot at, or after a near miss with an IED – I could see how confident he was in his training, his leadership and his buddies. This particular Soldier, PFC Walter Hill, always shared how his G-Ma (Grandmother who raised him) would deal with some of the antics of other Soldiers if she were here, and how she had disciplined him as a young man. He was the youngest on the team, a PFC, but I had heard him directing helicopters, tanks, and Bradleys on our radio. I had also heard him sending in reports as second nature, and all this as a driver. Soldiers like Walter Hill amaze me. I cannot adequately create for you the picture of the confidence that I have in our Army after crossing life paths with a guy like Walter. I wish you all could see it as well.



Let me finally say thanks again to all of you for your cards, letters, notes, emails, goodies, boxes, and prayers. Your “packaged care” have been sustaining to me and to our Soldiers. I hope to see every one of you who have sent me something so I can tell you personally “Thanks You”. Please keep us in prayer over these last three weeks as we load out people and equipment, and that we would be safe.



I have included pictures of awards ceremonies, promotions, Soldiers doing Soldier things, and some food! Enjoy.



In His Grip,

- Jay





COL Jay George

2-5 IA MiTT

3HBCT, 1st Cav Div

(if anyone would like to see the pictures just send me your email and I will send them to you)

Spanky 11-16-2007 11:07 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
Did he do the bit about, "Democrats drive like this, but Republicans drive like THIS!!!"?

Cracks me up every time.
The guy seems pretty conservative to me yet he worked for Jabba the Hut all those years. Kind of weird.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-16-2007 11:23 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
You're wasting your time. Hank is the kind of ivory tower moral relativist who thinks you can't apply "patronizing western cultural mores" to social groups with radically different worldviews, like Republicans.
No. He's just apparently tired of talking, but loves to post anyhow, so he gets enjoyment out of being a flaming asshole.

S_A_M

SlaveNoMore 11-16-2007 11:31 PM

The Crimson Letter
 
Quote:

Hank Chinaski
at first everyone acts like my positions are insane, then slave always gets around to taking my position two days later. I think it's subliminal. Toadyism is active.
Face facts - people don't like Harvard men.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-17-2007 10:00 AM

The Crimson Letter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Face facts - people don't like Harvard men.
The sad thing is, when Hank was a little boy he dreamed of becoming a Whiffenpoof.

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 11:17 AM

The Crimson Letter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The sad thing is, when Hank was a little boy he dreamed of becoming a Whiffenpoof.
I remember singing , I must have been 7 or 8,
  • Gentleman songsters off on a spree
    Damned from here to eternity
    God have mercy on such as we
    Baa! Baa! Baa!

when my mom said "Hanka, little fellow, looka at the rosters, year after year, the Whieenpoofs no let ina any I- talians!"

I turned crimson that day in more ways than one.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-17-2007 12:15 PM

Chris Matthews
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
country club
It's a GOLF COURSE. Golf course, golf course, golf course.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-17-2007 12:16 PM

The Crimson Letter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Face facts - people don't like Harvard men.
Hank gets out of the shower to take a piss?

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 02:11 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
No. He's just apparently tired of talking, but loves to post anyhow, so he gets enjoyment out of being a flaming asshole.

S_A_M
if my answers scare you, perhaps you should stop asking questions. I'm here to open eyes, before it's too late.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-17-2007 06:29 PM

10,000 Men Of Harvard Year Reich
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I remember singing , I must have been 7 or 8,
  • Gentleman songsters off on a spree
    Damned from here to eternity
    God have mercy on such as we
    Baa! Baa! Baa!

when my mom said "Hanka, little fellow, looka at the rosters, year after year, the Whieenpoofs no let ina any I- talians!"

I turned crimson that day in more ways than one.
Your school's football cheers were the inspiration for Nazi propaganda:

Quote:

According to Tom Reiss's biography of the Nazi-era author Esad Bey ("The Orientalist"), it was a Harvard alumnus, Ernst "Putzi" Hanfstaengl, who, when working as Hitler's press flack during his 1932 election campaign, taught Hitler the Harvard football song, which became the inspiration for the Nazis' "Seig Heil!" chant. On p. 263 of The Orientalist, Reiss quotes from Hanfstaengl's memoir:
  • "I started playing some of the football marches I had picked up at Harvard. I explained to Hitler all the business about cheerleaders and marches, counter-marches and deliberate whipping up of hysterical enthusiasm. I told him about the thousands of spectators being made to roar "Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, rah, rah, rah!" in unison and of the hypnotic effect of this sort of thing. I played him some of the Sousa marches and then my own Falarah [Putzi's contribution to the Harvard cheerleading repertoire], to show how it could be done by adapting German tunes, and gave them all that buoyant beat so characteristic of American brass-band music. I had Hitler fairly shoulding with enthusiasm. "That is it, Hanfstaengl, that is what we need for the movement, marvelous," and he pranced up and down the room like a drum majorette. After that he had the S.A. band practicing the same thing. [...] Rah, rah, rah! became Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil! but that is the origin of it and I suppose I must take my share of the blame."

link

I feel I should tie this together with a wiiticism, but I cannot rise to the occasion.

Atticus Grinch 11-17-2007 06:55 PM

10,000 Men Of Harvard Year Reich
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Your school's football cheers were the inspiration for Nazi propaganda:
It gets worse -- apparently he got the idea for the Holocaust after watching Love Story. Never having to say you're sorry, indeed.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-17-2007 07:00 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if my answers scare you, perhaps you should stop asking questions. I'm here to open eyes, before it's too late.
Heh.

I could be wrong, but I really don't think you have much to teach me on those subjects.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 07:09 PM

10,000 Men Of Harvard Year Reich
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
It gets worse -- apparently he got the idea for the Holocaust after watching Love Story. Never having to say you're sorry, indeed.
I heard he ordered Mengele to come up with some experiment that could be described using the words "penny" and "packer" as a tribute to ole Fritzie. on the positive side, Preparation H was developed after some of that work.

Gattigap 11-17-2007 10:02 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
even Ty says that. a good toady follows his master's voice better than you're doing.
Had I realized that you wanted so badly to argue with Ty instead of respond to me, I'd have chosen something easier, such that you wouldn't have needed to make such a logical leap here. Next time, perhaps.

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 10:06 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Heh.

I could be wrong, but I really don't think you have much to teach me on those subjects.

S_A_M
you know there is a difference between reading 100 sources, and reading 1 source 100 times, or don't you?

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 10:08 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Had I realized that you wanted so badly to argue with Ty instead of respond to me, I'd have chosen something easier, such that you wouldn't have needed to make such a logical leap here. Next time, perhaps.
i don't argue with anyone here. none of you are good at it, you're all arrogane and ignorant, and you seem to lack the most basic understanding of what is opinion and what is fact. The only exceptions seem to be atticus and rt*, but they don't argue so much.



*and wonk, I know I shouldn't list because then i forget people

SlaveNoMore 11-17-2007 10:18 PM

The Crimson Letter
 
Quote:

sebastian_dangerfield
Hank gets out of the shower to take a piss?
After asking permission.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-17-2007 10:21 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you know there is a difference between reading 100 sources, and reading 1 source 100 times, or don't you?
You paint "us" with far too broad a brush.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 11-17-2007 10:26 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i don't argue with anyone here.
You do in your own way, but you prefer not to engage on substance.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
none of you are good at it,
To the contrary, Hank, I win about 8 times in 10 when I'm being paid for it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you're all arrogane and ignorant,
Pot? And as near as i can tell, I'm as well-informed as anyone on this Board.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
and you seem to lack the most basic understanding of what is opinion and what is fact.
Cite as to me?

For example, my opinion is that you frequently post like a complete jackass wasting electrons. I recognize that this may not be correct, and that in fact you may not be a complete jackass regardless of whatever you post here.

You stopped trying to talk to people a long time ago.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 11-17-2007 10:43 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I win about 8 times in 10 when I'm being paid for it.
yet you have so much free time, one would think the market would keep you busier.


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wasting electrons.
I invented saying this, and you don't even realize your attack is actually homage.

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You stopped trying to talk to people a long time ago.
no shit. but at least I realize I'm useless.

Gattigap 11-17-2007 11:33 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i don't argue with anyone here. none of you are good at it, you're all arrogane and ignorant, and you seem to lack the most basic understanding of what is opinion and what is fact. The only exceptions seem to be atticus and rt, but they don't argue so much.
Don't feel bad, Hank. We think less of your efforts these days, but we still love you.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-17-2007 11:44 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
yet you have so much free time, one would think the market would keep you busier.
Or, one could admire me for making a very good living and still having so much free time.

We can't all be titans of the profession Hank. Men like you stand on the broad shoulders of others. And our utility has nothing to do with anything we do here -- so stop being so hard on yourself, it makes you bitter.

S_A_M

P.S. I am honored, Hank. Thank you.

Diane_Keaton 11-18-2007 07:18 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
  • Gatti: provides cite to Rudy comment re waterboarding.

    Hank: what about Rudy's statement is wrong?

    Gatti: It depends on who does it? Really?

    Hank: even Ty says that (followed by insult)

    Me: Ty says that the issue of whether waterboarding is torture is at least partially dependent on the identity of the person holding the bucket? Huh. I must have missed that one.

    Hank: The bitch of LSAT training is that you learn reading comprehension is the last thing you should practice.

Is this what I've been missing since I switched to the FB? I've gotten fantastic new anti-aging creams, an occasional spanking by TM, great links to sexy boots and a new appreciation for Led Zeppellin. Couldn't we at least snazz this board up a bit? I miss my old haunts. *sniff*

Hank Chinaski 11-18-2007 07:46 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Is this what I've been missing since I switched to the FB? I've gotten fantastic new anti-aging creams, an occasional spanking by TM, great links to sexy boots and a new appreciation for Led Zeppellin. Couldn't we at least snazz this board up a bit? I miss my old haunts. *sniff*
not bob thinks I'm not nice. I think i tell the stupid they're stupid, which I believe is nice. who knows who's right.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-18-2007 09:47 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
not bob thinks I'm not nice. I think i tell the stupid they're stupid, which I believe is nice. who knows who's right.
It must be hard for you to make it through the work day.

Name partner or solo? I guess either your name is on the door either way.

S_A_M

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2007 09:55 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Is this what I've been missing since I switched to the FB? I've gotten fantastic new anti-aging creams, an occasional spanking by TM, great links to sexy boots and a new appreciation for Led Zeppellin. Couldn't we at least snazz this board up a bit? I miss my old haunts. *sniff*
This board doesn't have a troll.

Hank Chinaski 11-18-2007 09:57 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This board doesn't have a troll.
translation: I have SAM on ignore so I can't see what he's doing.

Secret_Agent_Man 11-18-2007 10:03 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
translation: I have SAM on ignore so I can't see what he's doing.
I just tell assholes that they are assholes, which I think is nice.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 11-18-2007 10:56 PM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I just tell assholes that they are assholes, which I think is nice.

S_A_M
even the great SAM loses 20% of the time. maybe you're wrong about hank?

Secret_Agent_Man 11-19-2007 01:33 AM

Oh, the good old days.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
even the great SAM loses 20% of the time. maybe you're wrong about hank?
Who knows who is right? There is a difference between fact and opinion.

S_A_M

P.S. Maybe I'm not very good at all, and they just don't let me argue the hard ones?

Gattigap 11-19-2007 12:29 PM

HuckChuckFacts
 
It won't convince me to vote for the guy, but I do love this political ad. God Bless America.


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