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taxwonk 07-01-2007 03:36 PM

Hank is now officially insane.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
will you take the red pill, or the blue?


http://www.jeremiahproject.com/proph...ntbodycnt.html
From Mr. Chinaski's link, above:
  • On September 11, 2001, Barbara Olson died when the airplane she was flying in crashed into the Pentagon. American Airlines flight 77 was reportedly piloted by a suicidal terrorist whose cohorts also crashed planes into the World Trade Center in New York city and in Pennsylvania. Barbara served as the Republican chief counsel for the congressional committeee investigating the Clintons' involvement in Travelgate and Filegate. She also authored two books, "Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton," a scathing expose of Hillary Clinton, and "The Final Days: A Behind the Scenes Look at the Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House."

Diane_Keaton 07-01-2007 09:59 PM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
They're in the midst of finding cars packed with bombs meant to kill Brits. And cars are being driven into U.K. airports. Yet... the first order of business for London's Mayor is to warn everyone not to "demonize Muslims." Um...Because if you think of them like "demons" then you are in more danger, somehow? (The warning can't be to protect Muslims from retaliation - no widespread problems with that when Muslims slaughtered Brits on 7/7).

More from the Mayor: "In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims." What data does this man have that Muslims (or any group) are "less likely" to support the use of violence to achieve goals?? (And, funny, I don't remember any calls not to demonize the Irish b/c of the IRA.)

What a fucking embarrassment.

"Hopes may rise on the Grasmere
But Honey Pie, you're not safe here ."

Gattigap 07-02-2007 12:10 AM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
They're in the midst of finding cars packed with bombs meant to kill Brits. And cars are being driven into U.K. airports. Yet... the first order of business for London's Mayor is to warn everyone not to "demonize Muslims." Um...Because if you think of them like "demons" then you are in more danger, somehow? (The warning can't be to protect Muslims from retaliation - no widespread problems with that when Muslims slaughtered Brits on 7/7).

More from the Mayor: "In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims." What data does this man have that Muslims (or any group) are "less likely" to support the use of violence to achieve goals?? (And, funny, I don't remember any calls not to demonize the Irish b/c of the IRA.)

What a fucking embarrassment.

"Hopes may rise on the Grasmere
But Honey Pie, you're not safe here ."
"We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.

The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.

When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect."

Replaced_Texan 07-02-2007 09:43 AM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
They're in the midst of finding cars packed with bombs meant to kill Brits. And cars are being driven into U.K. airports. Yet... the first order of business for London's Mayor is to warn everyone not to "demonize Muslims." Um...Because if you think of them like "demons" then you are in more danger, somehow? (The warning can't be to protect Muslims from retaliation - no widespread problems with that when Muslims slaughtered Brits on 7/7).

More from the Mayor: "In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims." What data does this man have that Muslims (or any group) are "less likely" to support the use of violence to achieve goals?? (And, funny, I don't remember any calls not to demonize the Irish b/c of the IRA.)

What a fucking embarrassment.

"Hopes may rise on the Grasmere
But Honey Pie, you're not safe here ."
I think this re: line is wrong. The Brits, and certainly the Londoners, aren't panicked. Had there been panic, the concert at Wembley and the tennis tournament at Wimbledon wouldn't have been attended at all. If anything, it seems that the more they try to terrorize, the more stoic the Brits get.

We could learn a lot from them.

At best, this is an occasion that calls for a second cup of tea.

ETA: Note from friend of mine in London who used to live in Glasgow.
Quote:

My reaction to the whole thing was to ... er... stay informed? Keep on with my life?

I've stood where that car hit Glasgow Airport and blew up about 6 times, but seriously, I'd still be counting myself as seriously unlucky if it got near me. I detest the terrorists, but I'm thinking underlying reasons, not about a mysterious nation of psycho nutjobs.

I'm not presenting myself as typically British - but I don't know anyone who's remotely traumatised by this. If I could characterise the reaction at all it would be to say, "No-one got injured, thank everything that is holy. Let's catch everyone responsible and deal with them. ... ... ... on with life? Okay, let's go."

No-one died. It's a fluke, it's luck, it's amazing, but thank goodness. So let's get on with our lives.



My friends in Kiev asked how Londoners were coping when I spoke to them today - all I had to say is that no-one died, and they said, "yeah, right enough." That's it. That's everything. People who are employed to deal with this stuff are dealing with it. Efficiently.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-02-2007 10:26 AM

Of course, he had some help from the Teacher's Unions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
"We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.

The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.

When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect."

Yes, but that was written by a traitor who has fouled up the efforts of all true Americans to wage a holy war against the Satanic Islamic forces.

Diane_Keaton 07-02-2007 11:16 AM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think this re: line is wrong. The Brits, and certainly the Londoners, aren't panicked.
2. I had the Smith's "Panic" playing in my head all day yesterday and hence the re: line. Hang the DJay.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-02-2007 11:28 AM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
2. I had the Smith's "Panic" playing in my head all day yesterday and hence the re: line. Hang the DJay.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...0/keepcalm.jpg

greatwhitenorthchick 07-02-2007 01:41 PM

Panic On The Streets of London. I wonder to myself.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...0/keepcalm.jpg
Oh, if only they'd added "Make it Work" to that.

Shape Shifter 07-02-2007 02:03 PM

Soulgazing
 
Just what the hell are they doing up there?
  • Putin suggested there would be "further substantial intercourse on this issue."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070702/..._wh/bush_putin

ltl/fb 07-02-2007 02:10 PM

Soulgazing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Just what the hell are they doing up there?
  • Putin suggested there would be "further substantial intercourse on this issue."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070702/..._wh/bush_putin
"We're close on recognizing that we got to work together to send a common message."

Replaced_Texan 07-02-2007 04:42 PM

Grrrrrrrrrr.

SlaveNoMore 07-02-2007 04:51 PM

The Party's Over
 
Quote:

Gattigap
[url=http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html]"... These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that. ... The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.
Between this statement - at best, ignorant, and at worst, a bald-faced lie - and that travesty of an Immigration Bill, you now all know fully well why this faithful member of the GOP has publicly issued his vote of "no confidence" in GWB.

Fuck 'em, and bring on the Articles of Impeachment, already.

Shape Shifter 07-02-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Grrrrrrrrrr.
Interesting how they seem to give so much weight to whether she had considered the risks.

Replaced_Texan 07-02-2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Interesting how they seem to give so much weight to whether she had considered the risks.
Seems to me "could die" and "might get depressed" were answers I would have given.

But then I'm probably not mature enough either.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-02-2007 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Seems to me "could die" and "might get depressed" were answers I would have given.

But then I'm probably not mature enough either.
So the reasoning is that one who is not mature enough to decide to abort should be forced into circumstances under which she may be forced to keep the child.

This serves the conservative taxpayer of the state's interests exactly how?


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