First Amendment
 

I'm pretty sure he meant more in the way that the US must share in some of the blame for the car bombings in Baghdad. Or perhaps in the same way the US had to share in some of the blame for the Battle of Ticonderoga.

First Amendment
 

I have never liked the term anti-semitic. It is to sterile. It is not unpleasant enough for the concept it is representing. I prefer there term ignorant bigot.

First Amendment
 

I don't think that is a fair link. To the extent the US may be thought to have some blame for the attacks of 9/11, the link is much, much more abstract (to the point of being essentially meaningless).

Conservatives (like others in other contexts) seem to mistake caution with blame with regard to the 9/11 attacks. By analogy, compare anti-rape activists who fight over "blaming" a victim for wearing provocative clothing: a short dress is certainly no excuse for a rape. At the same time, ignoring the effect may be dangerous. In a less politically charged analogy, a man wearing a Rolex in the projects is not at fault for being robbed, but it may have perhaps been a wiser decision to leave the bling at home. Likewise, US policies (both official foreign policies and incidental US actions such as the exportation of our cultural norms through media dominance) are no excuse for terrorist action. But understanding the causal relationship may be key to preventing further attacks in the future.

But all of this is a bit different from Israel, where the cycle of violence tends to be immediate and direct: stone throwing is followed by rubber bullets is followed by Molotov cocktails is followed by real bullets is followed by suicide bombers is followed by airstrikes.

First Amendment
 

Hank, be fair, it was the Gorelick wall, which Jamie Gorelick attempted to cover up at the 911 hearings and which should have disqualified her from sitting on the panel and certainly lessens the validity of its findings. As I understand it, Hillary was instrumental in Gorelick's rise to power.

Could it be that the real movers behind 911 were the RedChinese?

Cindy Sheehan, Brainless Moron?
 

Other than Christian Identity sects or those who like to post at such wonderful sites as jewwatch.org, I am not aware of any mainstream groups that believe this to be correct.

aV

First Amendment
 

No offence, but only you and Bilmore go back far enough to remember that one.

First Amendment
 

What do you make of the Israeli pullout this weekend?

First Amendment
 

How about jew-hater? that is viscerally offensive and yet accurately describes the members of the former Nazi party of WWII Germany, a broad swath of the populaces of the middle east and France.

Cindy Sheehan, Brainless Moron?
 

I actually heard this theory at Paletinian-Israeli forum at Stanford University. At the time it seemed a little funny to me because I believe, but again am not sure, that there were substantial jewish ghettos in most major European cities prior to 861. Specifically in Rome, Paris and London (I think the jews were kicked out of Engand in the 1200s). However, at the forum, no one really disputed it. But of course, being Stanford, that is not surprizing.

Iraqi Constitution - Mixed Bag
 

• BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Iraqi politicians agreed Monday on a draft constitution but decided to put off two key issues - women's rights and whether Kurds might someday secede - so the document could be submitted to parliament by a midnight deadline, two Shiite officials said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050815/D8C0E9900.html

First Amendment
 

Republicans pushed peace plans even less favorable to Israel. Why don't you attack Eisenhower (who leaned on the French and British to cut and run from Suez and leave the Israelis in the lurch in 1956), Nixon (who had to be browbeaten by Kissinger into resupplying the IDF in 1973 during the Yom Kippur War, and whose Rogers Plan was met with much joy in Tel Aviv), and Bush I (whose administration actually first met with the PLO)? The GOP attitude towards Israel and the Jews was famously noted by James A. Baker III: "Fuck them -- they didn't vote for us."

Nice try. A more comparable analogy would be to Northern Ireland -- peace negotiations were meaningless until the British Goverment started to talk to Sinn Fein and the IRA.

It's not really discussed in the article, which focuses more on the misrule of Arafat in the Palestine Authority controlled areas.

Yeah, but that's because his side won.

I think that many think that the IRA never stopped using terrorism, either, but Northern Ireland seems to be a lot further down the road to peace than anyone would have thought possible 10 years ago.

At any rate, Arafat's death makes it more likely that some rapparoachment between Israel and the Palestinians will take place.

Yea (Right), It's Penske That's the Troll
 

Howard Dean on Face the Nation:

• "It looks like today, and this could change, as of today it looks like women will be worse off in Iraq than they were when Saddam Hussein was president of Iraq."

http://washtimes.com/national/20050814-115425-7424r.htm

First Amendment
 

Pretending there is an equivalency is offensive. There is no cycle. Terrorists from inside and outside Israel criminally kill Israeli citizens in the name of treasonous insurrection. Israel takes appropriate self-defensive measures.

Iraqi Constitution - Mixed Bag
 

Good for them. Don't want to let the women get too uppity. Could lead to the totalitarian rule internet boards for Iraqi lawyers.

First Amendment
 

jew-hater works. Why do you think it is "viscerally offensive"?. The only problem with the word hate is that lots of people hate a lot of things but don't necessarily want to destroy or kill them. Someone could hate the jews but not necessarily wanted them to be exterminated. The Nazi and their sympathizers were beyond hate and into a realm of psychosis.

When I refer to Nazi I wouldn't refer to them as ignorant bigots. I refer to them as Nazi's because I don't think any other word conveys that sort of obsession for genocide.

That is why I think when any group that is not into genoicde is accused of being Nazi's , or being like Nazis, is a misuse of that term.