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SlaveNoMore 03-02-2006 02:14 PM

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ironweed
If Berlusconi told them to conclude that it was put together by the Boys from Brazil, working in tandem with Nessie and an Illuminati splinter group of lesbian ninjas, it would have been a much more interesting report and probably just as reliable. Not that I doubt the commies coulda done it, but an Italian parliamentary commission is all of a sudden the last word?
Do you really think for a second the Reds would hire a Turk to do their dirty work?

I didn't think so.

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 02:17 PM

Time to Boycott Dominos (again)?
 
Nutcase founder is now trying to build a sin-free town with our pizza money.

futbol fan 03-02-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Nutcase founder is now trying to build a sin-free town with our pizza money.
You've eaten Domino's? I mean, since you were old enough to order pizza yourself?

That, along with Coors, is one of the easiest boycotts I've ever had the pleasure of participating in. If someone could find a reason to boycott Red Bull I'd have a trifecta going.

Sexual Harassment Panda 03-02-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Nutcase founder is now trying to build a sin-free town with our pizza money.
You buy that crap? It might make good cheap roofing material but beyond that....

Dammit - weed beat me to it.

Not Bob 03-02-2006 02:24 PM

Only the echoes of my mind.
 
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Originally posted by ironweed
Plus also I never bought Voight as PJPII for a minute.
Choose your own response:

1. It's a Brangelina thing, isn't it?

2. Champ! Wake up, Champ!

3. But he believes that God believes in Claude.

Replaced_Texan 03-02-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
You've eaten Domino's? I mean, since you were old enough to order pizza yourself?

That, along with Coors, is one of the easiest boycotts I've ever had the pleasure of participating in. If someone could find a reason to boycott Red Bull I'd have a trifecta going.
2 and 2. The Target boycott (pharmacists who won't give morning-after-pills) is one that I still can't make myself be a part of.

I mean, what's the alternative, Wal-Mart? *shudder*

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
You've eaten Domino's? I mean, since you were old enough to order pizza yourself?

That, along with Coors, is one of the easiest boycotts I've ever had the pleasure of participating in. If someone could find a reason to boycott Red Bull I'd have a trifecta going.
I don't eat Domino's (though I have no problem with their pizza - I'm no pizza snob). I tend to go for the greasy faux-NY-style pizza joints around my house. I'm so far removed for the chain pizza experience, I could not tell you where the closest Domino's or Papa John's is. Not sure I've seen any since I've been in LA. I pass a Pizza Hut on my way home from work (old skool, sit down joint with the red roof and a sign outside with the removable letters on it that just says "PIZZA" on one side) and there is a Little Caeser's in the strip mall next to my apartment, but I haven't tested those out yet either.

I have so much pizza cred, it is un-fucking-believable.

futbol fan 03-02-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I have so much pizza cred, it is un-fucking-believable.
I will never question your pizza cred again. Much respect.

baltassoc 03-02-2006 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Nutcase founder is now trying to build a sin-free town with our pizza money.
Not that it impacts my ongoing boycott of Dominos for selling crappy pizza, but the article does note that the guy sold the company in 1998.

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
Not that it impacts my ongoing boycott of Dominos for selling crappy pizza, but the article does note that the guy sold the company in 1998.
I think a boycott still makes sense. Punish the new owners for giving that guy heaps of cash. Bastards.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 03:00 PM

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Not that it impacts my ongoing boycott of Dominos for selling crappy pizza, but the article does note that the guy sold the company in 1998.
Kind of raises an interesting question about private government, too. Nothing wrong with having your beliefs. Nothing wrong with living only with people who share those beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that guarantee your neighbors will share your beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that mutually limit your exercise of constitutional rights. Right?

baltassoc 03-02-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Kind of raises an interesting question about private government, too. Nothing wrong with having your beliefs. Nothing wrong with living only with people who share those beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that guarantee your neighbors will share your beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that mutually limit your exercise of constitutional rights. Right?
What is this, the bar exam?

Of course there's a problem with having restrictive covenants that guarantee your neighbors will share your beliefs. I've tried to forget as much of my Property class as possible, but somehow that stuck. Can't tell you the name of the case, but I do remember it being surprisingly (to me) early, like the late 40s.

ETNote that the article seems to indicate there would be no restrictive covenants in the residential properties, but the commercial properties would be all leased, presumably with restrictions as to the type of business that can be conducted in each location. That seems to much less settled.

Shape Shifter 03-02-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Kind of raises an interesting question about private government, too. Nothing wrong with having your beliefs. Nothing wrong with living only with people who share those beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that guarantee your neighbors will share your beliefs. Nothing wrong with having restrictive covenants that mutually limit your exercise of constitutional rights. Right?
I think it's okay as long as they just prevent property owners from selling to black people.

Sexual Harassment Panda 03-02-2006 03:13 PM

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I think it's okay as long as they just prevent property owners from selling to black people.
Or Italians.

Hank Chinaski 03-02-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
What is this, the bar exam?

Of course there's a problem with having restrictive covenants that guarantee your neighbors will share your beliefs. I've tried to forget as much of my Property class as possible, but somehow that stuck. Can't tell you the name of the case, but I do remember it being surprisingly (to me) early, like the late 40s.

ETNote that the article seems to indicate there would be no restrictive covenants in the residential properties, but the commercial properties would be all leased, presumably with restrictions as to the type of business that can be conducted in each location. That seems to much less settled.
he should open an abortion clinic so people can go protest on the weekends. they won't be the sort that goes to bars, and they'll need someting to do.

futbol fan 03-02-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Or Italians.
Or the Irish.

(Spree: sound. Click on the "Irish" button and you'll get more sound. Make sure the door to your office is closed).

Sexual Harassment Panda 03-02-2006 03:36 PM

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he should open an abortion clinic so people can go protest on the weekends. they won't be the sort that goes to bars, and they'll need someting to do.
Anyone ever been to Loma Linda, CA? It's outside San Berdoo, and it's for all intensive purposes run by (I think) the 7th Day Adventists. There's no liquor in the town, but they make up for it with these killer bakeries. I mean, I think they had frosting in the streets. To compensate, they have a top-notch university hospital in town.

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Anyone ever been to Loma Linda, CA? It's outside San Berdoo, and it's for all intensive purposes run by (I think) the 7th Day Adventists. There's no liquor in the town, but they make up for it with these killer bakeries. I mean, I think they had frosting in the streets. To compensate, they have a top-notch university hospital in town.
Interesting approach. Texans seem to make up for their dry areas by having lots and lots of guns around. And barbeque. And, now that I think about it, Baptist churches.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 03:49 PM

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I think they had frosting in the streets.
How does that compare to living in the land of chocolate?

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Hank Chinaski 03-02-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Anyone ever been to Loma Linda, CA? It's outside San Berdoo, and it's for all intensive purposes run by (I think) the 7th Day Adventists. There's no liquor in the town, but they make up for it with these killer bakeries. I mean, I think they had frosting in the streets. To compensate, they have a top-notch university hospital in town.
Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia Arkansas, dry town, had alcohol parties. The frats have to put a cutain around the perimeter of the yard then they can booze it up-

So here are these knuckleheads who preached the county into banning alcohol sales and they're drinking- I'd be one pissed off alcoholic living there. No word on consent issues in at the parties.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia Arkansas, dry town, had alcohol parties. The frats have to put a cutain around the perimeter of the yard then they can booze it up-
There's a sign as you leave Pulaski County, or shortly before, saying something like "Remember, Arkansas is Dry Until Texas." (this reminder brought to you by Budweiser). So, you load up at the conveniently located liquor store, and then proceed on to Arkadelphia, Hope, or any of the other fine locales in SW Arkansas, and booze it up at your leisure, wherever you want. Why did the frat boys need curtains? To hide the raping?

Hank Chinaski 03-02-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
There's a sign as you leave Pulaski County, or shortly before, saying something like "Remember, Arkansas is Dry Until Texas." (this reminder brought to you by Budweiser). So, you load up at the conveniently located liquor store, and then proceed on to Arkadelphia, Hope, or any of the other fine locales in SW Arkansas, and booze it up at your leisure, wherever you want. Why did the frat boys need curtains? To hide the raping?
There was an ordinance preventing open alcohol outside a building in the town. the curtain was a temporary wall I think. i heard the story during a lunch meeting where i was concentrating more on getting the meeting over so I could get back to Little Rock before the next round of tornados blew in, so i may have a detail wrong.

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Nutcase founder is now trying to build a sin-free town with our pizza money.
I have been boycotting Dominoes every since college because I did not want my money going to project rescue. Did you not get the memo? You shouldn't rent your videos at Blockbuster for the same reason.

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I think a boycott still makes sense. Punish the new owners for giving that guy heaps of cash. Bastards.
2.

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I have been boycotting Dominoes every since college because I did not want my money going to project rescue. Did you not get the memo? You shouldn't rent your videos at Blockbuster for the same reason.
I am aware of this. If you see the "(again)" in my re: line, that was a reference to the prior thing or whatever.

I don't rent movies. I do, however, shop at Target, so now I am troubled.

Hank Chinaski 03-02-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
2.
do you wear cotton clothing? somewhere in the chain of ownership is someone that benefitted from slavery.

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I am aware of this. If you see the "(again)" in my re: line, that was a reference to the prior thing or whatever.

I don't rent movies. I do, however, shop at Target, so now I am troubled.
Yes, I am afraid Target is now on the list.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Yes, I am afraid Target is now on the list.
Is target publicly traded? Should we boycott any company with a sizable shareholder with odious beliefs?

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
do you wear cotton clothing? somewhere in the chain of ownership is someone that benefitted from slavery.
I think boycotting is the best form of political protest. We live in a capitlaist system, so economics is the best way to exert your political power (and it avoids having to use the heavy hand of government). I boycott companys that both left wing and right wing organizations tell me to boycott.

It is not too hard going through life avoiding, Exxon, the Gap, Dominoes, Blockbuster etc. And these boycotts work a great deal of the time.

Power to the People.

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Is target publicly traded? Should we boycott any company with a sizable shareholder with odious beliefs?
If is mainly the policies I worry about. But if the main shareholder is putting the profits to nefarious uses, then they get on the list. Target is not providing birthcontrol because they are afraid of the backlash from social conservatives. We need to teach them that the backlash from social libertarians is even worse. If we don't boycott them, how can you blame Target for not carrying contraception? Their job is maximise profits for the shareholders. As the consumer it is our job to convince them that in order to maximise profits for their shareholders they need to do the right thing.

Pretty simple, and not that difficult.

Its a lot easier than going to rallies and much more effective.

Power to the People.

Sidd Finch 03-02-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
do you wear cotton clothing? somewhere in the chain of ownership is someone that benefitted from slavery.
I've met Spanky. Strictly polyester.


And the occasional deerskin.

greatwhitenorthchick 03-02-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I think boycotting is the best form of political protest. We live in a capitlaist system, so economics is the best way to exert your political power (and it avoids having to use the heavy hand of government). I boycott companys that both left wing and right wing organizations tell me to boycott.

It is not too hard going through life avoiding, Exxon, the Gap, Dominoes, Blockbuster etc. And these boycotts work a great deal of the time.

Power to the People.
A lot of women were boycotting Curves because of its owner's beliefs and donations of profits to organizations that do not support abortion. However, the boycott was mostly hurting the (mostly women) franchisees, who still had to pay franchise fees to the owner/franchisor no matter what. So in that sort of circumstance a boycott is not necessarily the right thing to do. Plus, Curves helps a lot of women get in shape who wouldn't otherwise get in shape. So, what the women who can afford it are doing is keeping their memberships and writing a check to Planned Parenthood in the amount of their membership fees. Seems to be an ok compromise.

Shape Shifter 03-02-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I think boycotting is the best form of political protest. We live in a capitlaist system, so economics is the best way to exert your political power (and it avoids having to use the heavy hand of government). I boycott companys that both left wing and right wing organizations tell me to boycott.

It is not too hard going through life avoiding, Exxon, the Gap, Dominoes, Blockbuster etc. And these boycotts work a great deal of the time.

Power to the People.
I live next door to a Target. It's too damned convenient.

Spanky 03-02-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Is target publicly traded? Should we boycott any company with a sizable shareholder with odious beliefs?
In our economic system the power of the people over large corporations is total. Almost every large company in this country is dependent on selling their products to almost the entire consumer base. If people get organized there is no limit to what they can force companies to do.

I respect people that organize boycotts because they understand the system best. And if they take the time to organize a boycott, and I agree with its goals, I want to reinforce their positive behavior so I join in.

If you can't be bothered to boycott a company over a certain issue, no matter how much you scream and complain about it, deep down you really don't care.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I think boycotting is the best form of political protest. We live in a capitlaist system, so economics is the best way to exert your political power (and it avoids having to use the heavy hand of government).
What happens if the other guy has more economic power? If the conservatives boycot target because it does provide birth control, your boycott approach rather backfires.

notcasesensitive 03-02-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
If is mainly the policies I worry about. But if the main shareholder is putting the profits to nefarious uses, then they get on the list. Target is not providing birthcontrol because they are afraid of the backlash from social conservatives. We need to teach them that the backlash from social libertarians is even worse. If we don't boycott them, how can you blame Target for not carrying contraception? Their job is maximise profits for the shareholders. As the consumer it is our job to convince them that in order to maximise profits for their shareholders they need to do the right thing.

Pretty simple, and not that difficult.

Its a lot easier than going to rallies and much more effective.

Power to the People.
And how do the owners of the companies figure out which part of a decline in sales is related to the boycott of the week and which part is because of their competition, etc.? I'm not disagreeing with you, merely asking a practical question regarding the effectiveness of the actions.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-02-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
A lot of women were boycotting Curves because of its owner's beliefs and donations of profits to organizations that do not support abortion. However, the boycott was mostly hurting the (mostly women) franchisees, who still had to pay franchise fees to the owner/franchisor no matter what. So in that sort of circumstance a boycott is not necessarily the right thing to do. Plus, Curves helps a lot of women get in shape who wouldn't otherwise get in shape. So, what the women who can afford it are doing is keeping their memberships and writing a check to Planned Parenthood in the amount of their membership fees. Seems to be an ok compromise.
Yeah, but by diminishing the value of the franchise, it also harms the owner. Like continuing to boycott dominos.

Sounds like curves is a really expensive health club for a pro-choice person.

Shape Shifter 03-02-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What happens if the other guy has more economic power? If the conservatives boycot target because it does provide birth control, your boycott approach rather backfires.
What I'm waiting for is the Christian Scientist employee who refuses to sell OTC medicines, the Baptist employee that refuses to sell alcohol, and the Muslim employee who refuses to sell slutty clothing. I hope this comes back to bite them in the ass.

Hank Chinaski 03-02-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
A lot of women were boycotting Curves because of its owner's beliefs and donations of profits to organizations that do not support abortion. However, the boycott was mostly hurting the (mostly women) franchisees, who still had to pay franchise fees to the owner/franchisor no matter what. So in that sort of circumstance a boycott is not necessarily the right thing to do. Plus, Curves helps a lot of women get in shape who wouldn't otherwise get in shape. So, what the women who can afford it are doing is keeping their memberships and writing a check to Planned Parenthood in the amount of their membership fees. Seems to be an ok compromise.
similar to Domino's boycott- even when Monaghan owned the company. of course Domino's doesn't help anyone lose weight so that part is different, but the hurting Franchisees part is the same.

Query: Why does Detroit create 2 of the 3 biggest horrible pizza chains?

greatwhitenorthchick 03-02-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
In our economic system the power of the people over large corporations is total. Almost every large company in this country is dependent on selling their products to almost the entire consumer base. If people get organized there is no limit to what they can force companies to do.

I respect people that organize boycotts because they understand the system best. And if they take the time to organize a boycott, and I agree with its goals, I want to reinforce their positive behavior so I join in.

If you can't be bothered to boycott a company over a certain issue, no matter how much you scream and complain about it, deep down you really don't care.
Don't know if this has come up already, but now anyone who is pro-choice is now supposed to boycott Citibank, Gateway, Iams pet food and South Dakota tourism, all because of the recent SD bill. I don't buy Iams, don't have a Gateway computer, and am not planning a trip to Mount Rushmore, so I'm ok there, but I do bank at Citibank because it's private banking through my firm, and would be a pain in the ass to switch, and I probably would not get the same deal. Sometimes these boycotts do require some thought - especially if you wonder whether it will really have any effect.


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