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I like her fine. I just don't want to read about anything she says for the next two weeks, because if I'm reading about it, chances are it's not helpful.

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Is Bob running now? Did the DNC pull another Torricelli manueuver?

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Take it to the FB.

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Occasionally, it's probably not helpful whenever she might say it.

For example, I really don't want to know what prompted this statement: Whatever it was, it can't be good.

• PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Teresa Heinz Kerry released the following statement today:
  
  
  "I had forgotten that Mrs. Bush had worked as a school teacher and librarian, and there couldn't be a more important job than teaching our children. As someone who has been both a full time mom and full time in workforce, I know we all have valuable experiences that shape who we are. I appreciate and honor Mrs. Bush's service to the country as First Lady, and am sincerely sorry I had not remembered her important work in the past."

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Oddly enough, the same thing that prompted my post. The original statement wasn't so bad in context, but you weren't going to hear the context.

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What was the context when she yelled Shove It? Or accused her staff member of sabotaging her cookie recipe?

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The context was that of a USA Today article

Begging the question, when was the last time Zsa Zsa had a real job?

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There are quite a few stay at home moms in Ohio who read USA today. I think that quote will go over with them about as well as Kerrey's quote about Mary Cheney.

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Not to get all scientific on you, but where do you think oil comes from?

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Below the watertable, where it can't contaminate the water supply. If you dump it ON TOP of the ground, it can get in the water supply.

http://www.netc.net.au/watertablewatch/Gif/fig3zone.gif

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Taxwonk misuses a word because he thinks he'll sound smart based upon 2 books he read. It was a big word, and not common. He's poorly read.

You don't seem to understand what the word "lie" means. You're poorly educated, borderline illiterate. See?

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Don't underestimate the effects global warming had on the rivets......

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It doesn't come out of dirt. I believe it is trapped in stone underground for the most part.

But how about we have all teh discarded car oil dumped into your drinking water supply?

Wait, you are in Detroit -- perhaps you feel that Gary is a normal scene, not something that we'd hope to see only in an apocalyptic sci-fi movie.

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Yeah, its a laugh. Since she is a rich, rich, rich never worked Republican, can you imagine the treatment if her guy was running as a Republican and she was dogging a Dem first lady?

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i'm a rich white Republican. My family and i drink bottled water. But we like for the proles to have contaminated water as that helps make them want to enlist in the military for our endless wars. (5$ of Ty's money to the first one to get the reference).

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today, in part because I wasn't here to chastise, several "Caption" posts were made. all but one were too lame to be proper. Before today i would have suggested sending a proposed photo via PM to ty to see if it made the grade. alas it is now clear Ty can't be relied upon.

Not to get all Paigow, but you all really should be more prudent in selecting a photo. Question: Is the photo one that truly sets up humorous potential, or is it merely of someone you like to laugh at? you're all adults. i will leave it to each of you....for the time being.

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I don't know about the cookie thing, but she said "shove it" to a hack from a Scaife-funded "newspaper" that had been doing the journalistic equivalent of stalking her for a long time.

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As that article reflects, a couple of the prior questions and answers were:

• Q: Our poll shows a lot of Americans don't think the spouse of the president should have a job in the private sector.
  
  A: I'd love to see the wording in the poll, because I would have said, "If you had a woman president, and the husband was a brilliant neurosurgeon, (should) he give up being a neurosurgeon?" No! And I think what the American people really want is to make sure that the companion to the president — a woman now — supports him. And that's absolutely the No. 1 job for the country's sake, for his sake.
  
  Beyond that, I think the book hasn't been written. You know, there are no clear answers. We have to create our own stories and do the best we can.
  
  * * * * *
  
  Q: Do you have a role model for first lady in mind?
  
  A: The one thing I've learned from watching is that there really isn't a model, because every person coming in is different. Their experiences are different, and times have changed.
  
  Q: You'd be different from Laura Bush?
  
  A: Well, you know, I don't know Laura Bush. But she seems to be calm, and she has a sparkle in her eye, which is good. But I don't know that she's ever had a real job — I mean, since she's been grown up. (Related story: Heinz Kerry apologizes for comments) So her experience and her validation comes from important things, but different things. And I'm older, and my validation of what I do and what I believe and my experience is a little bit bigger — because I'm older, and I've had different experiences. And it's not a criticism of her. It's just, you know, what life is about.

That sentence doesn't sound good on its own -- which is why you should all send me money for wine -- but if you read just a little more it's abudantly clear that she wasn't dissing Laura Bush.

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I think she was. She was playing into the stereotype that the social right wants there woman to play the traditional role (e.g., not work).

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/column.../?id=110005779

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Since she rejects that proposition in the first Q and A I posted above, I think you're misreading her. Furthermore, everything I know about her makes me think she disagrees with that and is all too happy to say so.

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Not really. But you may be right, she may be one quasi pol you have to take a face value. It's just that, given who her spouse is, I am suspicious of her motives.

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If she has a problem, it's that she's too blunt, not that she's conniving and slippery.

http://www.funinstitute.com/Prod/ima...e%20Cannon.gif

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I don't see the problem being THK dissing Laura Bush. The true problem is her stream-of-consciousness, non-responsive answers which she throws out in grandiose fashion, disenfranchising the majority of Americans (ie., anyone except the Woody Allen-like psychoanalyism addicts, that is). Like what the hell is she talking about "validation" and where that comes from and whose validation is what....blah blah. The fucking question was how her role as First Lady would differ from Laura Bush's. How about a simple answer? Instead we get:

As IF that psychobabble is going to endear her to busy Moms in the Patch or in the Urban Ghetto for that matter who don't have the fucking time or luxury to speculate on where their "validation" comes from (or care where anyone else's "validation" comes from). The only people with that luxury are rich white women like her who live outside the hussle and bussle of real life (NTTAWWT, of course).

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I think one of Teresa's bigger gaffs was to go on about how she is older than Laura Bush and then to forget that Laura had been a teachers. Combine that with all her other wacky behaviors and she comes across as beginning to get senile. She has had her face lifted a few times so she doesn't look her age, but her mind is starting to go.

Oh, and Ty, Cookiegate was when she lost a bake-off against Laura Bush and claimed one of her staffers tried to sabatoge her by sending in a purposefully bad tasting cookie recipe to the women's magazine that has the first lady bake off every year. Bizarre behavior indeed.

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OK. Send me $$$ for wine.

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Come on over and we'll share a glass together.

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I understand Ty has already received 5 emails from people he respects telling him that he's funny. Sorry, Hank.

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Funny - she recently did a bit schtick about how sad it is that everyone is concerned about youth and young looks, and not what is "in the head" and some such boring stuff. Actually, it's probably the same interview. So what's with all the facelifts, then?

I must say though, that I kind of like her personal style: (1) she has nice thick hair cut in a perfect length and in a casual style; (2) she ALWAYS has a long, full scarf draped around her in different colors -- even over a pantsuit -- and I love that look. She also doesn't wear too much makeup, which is nice.

I'm JUST SAYING.

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You guys are no fun. Can't deal with a first lady letting her hair down. Sheesh.

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I already said I liked her hair. And down. It's the complete disintegration of rational thought and objective when asked simple questions that is unnerving.

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I RESPECT lots of people- you even. But only a few are funny. Right now I can't tell if you are, because I can't concentrate on your posts because your current avatar is too creepy.

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Hank, you are in no position to tell people their avatars are creepy.

eta: the no in front of position.

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Wishful thinking on your part. She's not the first lady.

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She has had quite a bit of work done. Her PS has done a good job because he left some slack and added some volume, probably a fat graft, maybe a malar implant. Her mid-face is a bit too high, though if she wanted a more natural look.

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Hank, I give you the same advice I give to other young attorneys.

Sincerity. Once you learn how to fake it, you'll have a bright future.

(ed. sp. err.)

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Yes, but it was when said Scaife-funded journalist asked her - innocently enough - about a comment she said no more than an hour earlier, then denied she had made it.

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It's because she's a pompous, insulated aristocrat wannabe.

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• ...it is also fair to ask why she rounded on the man from the Tribune-Review.
  
  
  The innocuously-named newspaper has long served as the weapon of Richard Mellon Scaife, its founder and publisher. His name is now synonymous with the campaign of hate and calumny focused on the Clintons during the 1990's, but to Ms. Heinz Kerry, his methods were familiar long before he achieved any national notoriety. During the decades of her marriage to the late Senator H. John Heinz III, she knew Mr. Scaife as part of the rarefied circle of very rich local families whose names adorn museum galleries and university buildings.
  
  
  Although both men were Republicans, Heinz tended to be moderate and occasionally even liberal, while Mr. Scaife was increasingly conservative, attracted to conspiracy theories and aggressive extremism. Years before her first husband's death in 1991, Teresa Heinz came to feel that Mr. Scaife had misused his newspaper to punish her and her husband for dissenting from right-wing Republican orthodoxy. Since her marriage to John Kerry in 1995, the hostility of the Scaife press and the outfits funded by Scaife foundations toward her has been nothing short of vicious.
  
  
  A few days after the Massachusetts Senator and his wife celebrated their second Christmas together, the Tribune-Review ran a column suggesting that Mr. Kerry had been enjoying a "very private" relationship with another woman. There was no byline on the story and no evidence to support the salacious insinuation. There was nothing to it, in fact, except pure malice.
  
  
  When fresh accusations about her husband's fidelity erupted earlier this year in the right-wing press, Ms. Heinz Kerry could scarcely have been surprised that the smear's most eager purveyors included Internet sites financed by Mr. Scaife and his family foundations. Those "news sources" have also impugned Mr. Kerry's patriotism, maligned his military service and distorted his voting record. They happen to be operated by the same discredited scribblers who once tried to convince America that Bill and Hillary Clinton were murderers and drug smugglers.
  
  
  Meanwhile, Ms. Kerry herself is hardly exempt from the angry fantasies emanating from Mr. Scaife's strange universe. Last spring, a Scaife-funded "research group" sent out a study that accused her of covertly financing violent radicals of various kinds, including Islamists, through the straitlaced Heinz foundations that she controls. There was absolutely no basis for that tale -- as the right-wing sleuths could have learned by making a single phone call. The Heinz money they had "traced" through a San Francisco group had actually gone in its entirety to support anti-pollution projects in Pennsylvania.
  
  
  Those are only a few brief examples among dozens. The Scaife disinformation conglomerate has churned out nastiness about Ms. Heinz Kerry by the carload for years, and finally she talked back. The guy she scorched last Sunday was meant to take that message back to his boss in Pittsburgh -- a man who has deserved the brunt of such refreshing candor for a long, long time.

link

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Quick question. given what Ty has been citing as credible sources of "news," I'm wondering if i could cite vintage Fluffy posts as contra evidence and still maintain my credibility?