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being really rich and having a voice like sinatra aren't all good either.....

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What is the nature of the fear?

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2. There are some mountains not worth climbing.

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That its over - that there won't be a tomorrow. That all you've got is gone.

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And when you're 48 and checking into the emergency room in the middle of your first heart attack, remember I told you this today:

When the admitting nurse asks for your religion you'll say "none"
then you'll pause, and then say "ummm, put down Catholic."

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They're already going after adult pay-per-view and hotel porn. I forgot to mention that one to Club.

The day that I can't watch "Fetish Diva VII" on Spectra-vision at the Hyatt while out of town for a hearing is the day I know that the bastards have finally won.

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what are you talking about? seriously, that would really sway some core Bush votes if true.

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I was expecting a rant on semantics and the games of philosophers. Your effort here was very disappointing.

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Yeh, but 8-10 inches won't get you Bentley level pay.

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You are aware that John Ashcroft is the Attorney General, right? Order a copy of this tape.

ETA Spree: not porn, about porn

ETA2: Go look up Ashcroft v. ACLU, and it looks like you don't have to order anything. You can watch the Frontline special on Quicktime.

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And when a doctor tells you there's a pretty good chance you've got a rare bad cancer, remember I told you this: Right now, nothing will seem as utterly senseless and worthless as organized religion.

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Dear, I'm trying to start a fight. I don't have time to sort this out. Give me a straight link, or summary. Is notbob doing a "Bush will start a draft" or is there something to a ban on hotel movies?

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What do you have now that you want Tomorrow?

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I hope you're not wishing me a cancer. First because spacefuck wished someone dead here, then there was a big fight, then Penske left. More importantly, wishing a cancer on someone is a venal sin. When you do come back to the Church, alone shivering in the ER, wondering if the kids will bother to visit, and then realizing there'll likely be no time, and that you'll have to race to even get the rosary in before you kick, not in full grace due to this obscene wish you threw my way today.

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Nothing. Thats it. Game's up. So people like you do what people who don't like rules do - they invent new rules.

Death is permanent and definite, without exception. No appeals, no loopholes. So people like you who couldn't handle that reality made up a fiction to get around the rules.

What really makes you NEED religion? Its not some innate need to be spiritual. Its not some innate need to be moral. You can do both of those secularly. You need an escape valve from the one thing you can't get around. You know it, I know it. Why bullshit around it?

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And yet I got the "you pervert!" message from my firm's filter. I can go to the Frontline site by editing the address, but I can't get to the summary of that episode.

I'd be worried but for the fact that I own this place. Although I should probably increase the Skittles and Mountain Dew budget for the IT people. Again.

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Venal = misdemeanor. I think you meant to reference the felony level "mortal" sin there.

You're a freak, you know that.

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Yes.

Administration wages war on pornography
Obscenity: For the first time in 10 years, the U.S. government is spending millions to file charges across the country.

• In this field office in Washington, 32 prosecutors, investigators and a handful of FBI agents are spending millions of dollars to bring anti-obscenity cases to courthouses across the country for the first time in 10 years. Nothing is off limits, they warn, even soft-core cable programs such as HBO's long-running Real Sex or the adult movies widely offered in guestrooms of major hotel chains.

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Of course I know theat. But look at you; despite the bluster, the part of you that was taught to spread God's word and rules still shines from somewhere within. QED

78-4

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You just bought my vote. Some things are more precious than tax breaks. Come on, Mr. Longface! Whip the fucking chimpanzee.

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I also remember my fraternity's secret handshake.

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BTW, when did you get Jeb to start counting your votes?

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RT, I think your message might be an effective vote getter on certain websites.

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How about this? From the Journal of the American Family Association http://afajournal.org/2003/october/1003noi.asp ...

• PORNOGRAPHY
  Marriott ignores parents whose children are exposed to porn
  Anne Marie Miele and her husband thought they had found a suitable pay-per-view movie for their children one night while staying at a Marriott hotel. Instead, about an hour into the film, they got a shocking switch from a family movie into a hardcore porn film.
  
  The Mieles also got something else: the cold shoulder from Marriott officials not concerned enough even to talk to the family. In a letter to AFA, Miele expressed her dismay with Marriott officials and their lack of interest about the situation.
  
  However, while Marriott might have ignored Miele, they quickly acknowledged the thousands of e-mail complaints with which they were deluged by OneMillionMoms.com (OMM) and OneMillionDads.com (OMD) members. Company spokesman Tom Cooper demanded OMD stop delivering e-mails to Marriott corporate executives or face legal action.
  
  [here's the money quote, Hank and Club:]"My response to his threat was simple," said AFA Chairman Don Wildmon. "Until Marriott gets out of the porn business, OMD will continue its campaign of educating and warning families. If Marriott chooses to take legal action, we are ready and willing to make it something that the national media will take notice of. This way, the whole nation will learn that Marriott makes millions from pornography."
  
  The Mieles were staying at the Marriott Fallsview in Niagara Falls, Canada, after attending a Christian music festival outside Buffalo, New York. Anne Marie told AFA she and her husband searched the channels to find something suitable for their children to watch, finally finding a pay-per-view children’s movie.
  
  "We were all enjoying the film when about an hour into it, the screen instantly changed to hardcore pornography," Miele said. "I was shocked and immediately jumped up and covered the screen while my husband frantically fumbled for the remote."
  
  The Mieles were initially told the problem was not the hotel’s, but that of the outside company from which the hotel receives its pay-per-view feed. Multiple requests to speak to hotel management were denied as the hotel management refused to speak with the Mieles.
  
  Contact
  Marriott International, Inc.
  Chairman J. W. (Bill) Marriott Jr.
  One Marriott Drive
  Washington, D.C. 20058
  Phone: 301-380-3000
  TOLL-FREE: 1-800-535-4028
  E-mail: GuestRelations@marriott.com
  

(emphasis supplied)

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Could be a disqualifier in more ways than one, I'd imagine. Think of the flaws in Brendan Fraser's wishes from Bedazzled.

Note to Sebby: Wish for a "proportional" 15 inch cock. There are probably few things more useless than a 15 inch pencil.

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I just followed your explanation as to why people bought in. (Paraphrasing follows): You said "fear". I said "fear of what". You said "fear of not having tomorrow what you have today"., and I say "what do they want tomorrow that they have today" and you say "Nothing. That's it. Game's up."

I'm not starting over with you, my dear genius, but you said they wanted something, and now you are saying they don't. What's the point?


I wasn't asking what you pretend to think, my rebellious friend. The question was why every society in existence independently bought in when it was offered.


Religion itself? That's another question. I'm not asking why someone needs religion. I'm asking why people uniformly and independently bought into even the concept of the Mountain and the Messenger.

In any case, you just said Nothing. That's it. Game's up. If true, why do we need an escape valve from that?

He(and maaaaa, he's starting it with the ventriloquist act again)llo

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This account is clearly not credible. I would not describe any of the porn I've seen in a Marriott as "hardcore."

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RT, I think that you just earned a toaster.

Although that somehow seems inadequate and not really reflective of the conversion at hand. Perhaps a copy of "Fetish Diva VII" on DVD.

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The site actually has a lot of information on porn prosecution, maknig money off of porn, and research that went into making the docu. I thought it was well done when it aired three years ago. This is a related NYT article that came out around the time that the docu aired. Your net-nanny shouldn't be too concerned with it.

ETA: NYT article came out before the Bush administration, Frontline documentary came out in an Ashcroft world.

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I'm still looking for that lesbian porn for my book report on the FB.

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Poor Hank. Up 78-4, he forgot the Unforgiving PB Rule: It's all fun and games until they take away our porn.

Unfortunately, Hank (like many Bush supporters) labored under the Rovian construct that social conservatives in the party were a nuisance, like terrorism, and contented himself in the illusion that Bush was simply tossing the God Squad token Cabinet appointments. Like DOJ.

From this critical moment of discovery about the strong social conservatism of today's GOP, Hank lost his confidence in the positions of Republicanism, and started his inexorable slide to ultimately lose his best-of-157 series.

(The experience of losing 74 straight was likely a painful one, especially so once he ran out of Gilligan episodes with which to respond to the onslaught.)

Hank was last seen from checked into a Howard Johnson's near Times Square, having accumulated a PPV bill of approximately $125,000.

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So he's a porn camel, kind of like the blowjob camel?

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It varies by state and chain, but certainly it has gotten "harder" over the bush term. RT's cite wasn't actually proof they're going after that. I hope still, and Sebastian's vote changing? Hardly.

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Denial precedes the fall. Pity.

78-5

You have to appreciate the Republicans' balls. It takes a lot of chutzpah to bring out Cheney to criticize a duck hunting trip.

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The first 45 minutes of "Taboo 2" are a bit boring.

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I'll stand down on this. You clearly have done more research than I have.

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Let me explain it better: As Catholics we have it too easy- of course we'll come back.

For years I kept dating SS sister because when I'd leave she'd always say "You can come back anytime- just knock on my window." I had to make the effort of climbing up on the garage and then knocking on the window, but that was it, she'd take over from there.

The Catholic church is similarly easy. A muslim might need to blow up a bus and a Protestant might have to snake handle. All we have to do is apologize.

You know you're dying- the priest is there- all you have to say is "Forgive me father its been 52 years since my last confession. I've never killed or had sex with an animal, but everything else I've done, the common ones lots of times." You say it and there's a chance for heaven- 1 in 10? 1 in 100? Whatever, you're ass will take the 5 minutes and come back to the Church.

See you in heaven bub! I'll be the one wanting to see Gilligan reruns in the common room.

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My good man, if he could fuck Heidi Klum, what man wouldn't want to live to be 200? Even after she got old and decrepit and I couldn't get it up any more, I'd still want a number of years to carry around the picture and tell people I used to fuck her.

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The dream of a shot ast heidi Klum.