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Tyrone Slothrop 03-08-2005 04:45 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
I think that's why Fiske's incredibly liberal, anti-Bush paper still puts it in the form of a question:

http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Picture...ent-050805.jpg
Note that another headline on that front page is "Robert Downey Jr. comes clean." Yeah, right.

Hank Chinaski 03-08-2005 04:50 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hungary, 1956.
Czechoslovakia, 1968.

It's not like the concept of freedom was unknown behind the Iron Curtain. I wouldn't mind reading a good history of East Germany at the end which explains why they lost the will to keep repressing people. I'm sure it had something to do with Reagan's resoluteness and moral example.
It was Carter's Olympic boycott- turns out having 200 lb. women sweep the Golds had alot to do with DDR pride and keeping it together, so as to East Germany you are right- it was JC!

bilmore 03-08-2005 04:50 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Note that another headline on that front page is "Robert Downey Jr. comes clean." Yeah, right.
I had the same reaction after learning they ran all the Krugman columns. To their credit, they've had no UFO stories since November.

Sexual Harassment Panda 03-08-2005 04:55 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub

You people are the only ones that didn't see it coming.
To be fair, you have to admit - we were shut out of the meetings with Nancy's astrologer. That might have made all the difference in the world.

SlaveNoMore 03-08-2005 04:55 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Sidd Finch
Pity, for him, that he didn't establish a line on this in Vegas. He'd be living on his private island now.
Most professors are.

megaloman 03-08-2005 04:57 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Let's just agree that you're wrong.
They will never agree. As long as a copy of Das Kapital exists for inspiration, these liberals will flail about like an epileptic on ectasy in support of a red revolution and against all that is holy in American culture.

Much like what was done with Hitler, the Imperial Japanese, Saddam and the rest of the intransigent rabble rousers, the capitalist-conversative-freedom patriot alliance will have to pound the left into the dustbin of history before we are free of their drag on our free society.

bilmore 03-08-2005 05:02 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by megaloman
. . . the dustbin of history . . .
Where exactly is the "dustbin of history"?

I've heard Cleveland, and someone else told me it was Sudan.

megaloman 03-08-2005 05:04 PM

Golddigger Returns
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It appears our favorite shrew has decided to stop spending John Heinz's inheritance for a brief moment and make - yet another - moronic statement:

From Drudge:

http://news.aunz.yimg.com/xp/afp/200...1522409603.jpg

"You get some gin and get some white raisins - and only white raisins - and soak them in the gin for two weeks. Then eat nine of the raisins a day."

Shape Shifter 03-08-2005 05:05 PM

Iraq Exit Strategy
 
http://www.theonion.com/images/428/article3143.jpg

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4110

megaloman 03-08-2005 05:06 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Where exactly is the "dustbin of history"?

I've heard Cleveland, and someone else told me it was Sudan.
France. They keep it tightly guarded within the confines of what's left of the Maginot line.

bilmore 03-08-2005 05:09 PM

Interesting blurb from Factcheck:

"FactCheck: False attacks over “windfalls” to Wall Street


New information turned up by FactCheck.org shows that the type of private Social Security accounts being proposed by President Bush would yield very little profit to the securities industry, contrary to persistent claims of a potentially huge "windfall" to Wall Street.

What we have discovered is that the model for Bush's accounts -- the Federal Thrift Savings Plan for federal workers -- actually paid securities firms a net total of only 16 cents for every $10,000 in workers accounts. The TSP had refused to make that information public -- until now. It shows that fees actually being paid to Wall Street are hundreds of times smaller than some critics had assumed.

For that reason and others we find that ads run in Louisiana by the liberal Democratic group Campaign for America's Future are grossly misleading. The group is accusing Republican Rep. James McCrery, who is chairman of the Social Security subcommittee and a supporter of Bush's private accounts, of "corruption" for accepting campaign donations from Wall Street, which it falsely claims will "profit most" from private accounts."


I still don't like the idea. But this argument won't fly.

http://www.factcheck.org/article310.html

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:32 PM

through the looking glass
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You know what- just email me my copy of my returns. I don't need a hard copy after all.
You'll be happy to learn I filed them electronically, too.

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:37 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I had a history professor who took the view that it was inevitable, and would likely happen in our lifetimes, as the countries of Eastern Europe would not stand being repressed for more than a couple of generations and that, once they started to break loose, the shit would hit the fan. (That's not quite the way he put it.) This was in 1983 or 1984.

Pity, for him, that he didn't establish a line on this in Vegas. He'd be living on his private island now.
In the same vein, my senior thesis on college was that the Iron Curtain would collapse from the burden of maintaining an unaffordable military burden. So I guess I get credit for it, too.

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:39 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Where exactly is the "dustbin of history"?

I've heard Cleveland, and someone else told me it was Sudan.
Trust me, it's Bakersfield. Their motto is "A dry riverbed runs through it."

sgtclub 03-08-2005 05:40 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
In the same vein, my senior thesis on college was that the Iron Curtain would collapse from the burden of maintaining an unaffordable military burden. So I guess I get credit for it, too.
And why, did you conclude, did they not take measures to reduce that military burden?

Hank Chinaski 03-08-2005 05:42 PM

through the looking glass
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
You'll be happy to learn I filed them electronically, too.

good. last year when you mailed them and they found DNA evidence that implicated "me" in those murders, I almost wasn't going to pay your bill

bilmore 03-08-2005 05:42 PM

Wolfie
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
And why, did you conclude, did they not take measures to reduce that military burden?
Tsar Nicholas was still in an expansion frame of mind at the time.

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:43 PM

Wolfie
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
And why, did you conclude, did they not take measures to reduce that military burden?
I believe my conclusion, stated more succinctly, is "they're stupid, so they think that a two-party struggle for global hegemony is a worthwhile goal, even if they can't feed their people."

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:44 PM

through the looking glass
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
good. last year when you mailed them and they found DNA evidence that implicated "me" in those murders, I almost wasn't going to pay your bill
Last year, I farmed them out to Coltrane. He needed a writing sample, remember?

sgtclub 03-08-2005 05:45 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
I believe my conclusion, stated more succinctly, is "they're stupid, so they think that a two-party struggle for global hegemony is a worthwhile goal, even if they can't feed their people."
So had the US not been building up as quickly or robustly, you believe they would not have had to dedicate the same resources?

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:46 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Tsar Nicholas was still in an expansion frame of mind at the time.
Just because you went to school with his Dad, it doesn't give you any special insights into Niki's plans.

SlaveNoMore 03-08-2005 05:46 PM

Wolfie
 
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taxwonk
In the same vein, my senior thesis on college was that the Iron Curtain would collapse from the burden of maintaining an unaffordable military burden. So I guess I get credit for it, too.
It's been suggested that Stephen Hawking stole his Brief History of Time from my fourth grade paper.

Shape Shifter 03-08-2005 05:49 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's been suggested that Stephen Hawking stole his Brief History of Time from my fourth grade paper.
Mother Slave doesn't really count, though.

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:50 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
So had the US not been building up as quickly or robustly, you believe they would not have had to dedicate the same resources?
Perhaps not the same, but they would have devoted more resources than they could afford. The US's military spending was absurd from the Truman Post-War era on as well. The big difference is that in a market economy, where growth is fostered, and inflation is allowed to carry the float when the economy isn't expanding, we were better able to shoulder the expense.

Of course, the poor might have a different view of that.

taxwonk 03-08-2005 05:51 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's been suggested that Stephen Hawking stole his Brief History of Time from my fourth grade paper.
Suggested by anybody who understood it?

Replaced_Texan 03-08-2005 05:57 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's been suggested that Stephen Hawking stole his Brief History of Time from my fourth grade paper.
I use that book when I have insomnia. Generally works within about three paragraphs.

bilmore 03-08-2005 06:00 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I use that book when I have insomnia. Generally works within about three paragraphs.
It opens?

bilmore 03-08-2005 06:17 PM

How can they get this so wrong?
 
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ETA - okay, that worked well. I'll leave this as a monument to posting skilz.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-08-2005 06:17 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
It opens?
I suspect that Hawking has sold more unread books than anyone else.

SlaveNoMore 03-08-2005 06:21 PM

Wolfie
 
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Tyrone Slothrop
I suspect that Hawking has sold more unread books than anyone else.
Highly debatable.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/03...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

bilmore 03-08-2005 06:23 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Highly debatable.
He never inhaled.

Replaced_Texan 03-08-2005 06:36 PM

Upcoming article
 
Unintended Consequences of Medical Malpractice Damages Caps, by CATHERINE M. SHARKEY NYU Law Review, Vol. 80, May 2005 Abstract:

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Previous empirical studies have examined various aspects of medical malpractice damages caps, focusing primarily upon their overall effect in reducing insurance premium rates and plaintiffs' recoveries, and other effects such as physicians' geographic choice of where to practice. Experimental studies have focused attention upon the possible "anchoring" effect of caps, which might inadvertently increase award amounts. This Article is the first to explore an unintended crossover effect that may be dampening the intended effects of caps.

This Article posits that, where noneconomic damages are limited by caps, plaintiffs' attorneys will more vigorously pursue, and juries will award, larger economic damages, which are often unbounded. Implicit in such a crossover effect is the malleability of various components of medical malpractice damages, which often are considered categorically distinct, particularly in the tort reform context. This Article challenges this conventional wisdom.

My original empirical analysis, using a comprehensive data set of jury verdicts from 1992, 1996, and 2001, in counties located in 22 states, collected by the National Center for State Courts, concludes that the imposition of caps on noneconomic damages has no statistically significant effect on overall compensatory damages in medical malpractice jury trial verdicts or final judgments. This result is consistent with the crossover theory. Given the promulgation of noneconomic damages caps, the crossover effect may also partially explain the recently documented trend of rising economic (as opposed to noneconomic) damages in medical malpractice cases.
Via Health Law Prof Blog

bilmore 03-08-2005 06:38 PM

Upcoming article
 
There's a strong argument that jurors decide on an overall number, and then decide where to shoehorn it in amongst the allowable catagories.

Gattigap 03-08-2005 06:41 PM

Santorum, covered in glory
 
Sen. Santorum has been batting 1.000 with his efforts to destroy SocSec.

First was the notable example of Santorum supporters outside a rally chanting "hey, hey, ho, ho, Soc Sec has got to go." [Link to video via competing candidate's blog].

More recently, it appears that Santorum ran a poll on his website asking who was in favor of President Bush's idea of personal accounts.

Sadly, Santorum removed the results from his site once they realized how opinions were running. But a competing candidate was quick enough to save the screenshot:

http://ee.1asphost.com/Stingo/PFP.Sa...l.SocSec.2.jpg

Courtesy of the All Spin Zone.

bilmore 03-08-2005 06:45 PM

Santorum, covered in glory
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Sadly, Santorum removed the results . . .
He got DU'ed. It was funny.

Replaced_Texan 03-08-2005 07:25 PM

Santorum, covered in glory
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
He got DU'ed. It was funny.
I've never understood why anyone does on-line polling. It makes no sense unless you've rigged the results already.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-08-2005 07:28 PM

Santorum, covered in glory
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I've never understood why anyone does on-line polling. It makes no sense unless you've rigged the results already.
That is confusing. It's hard to figure why Santorum didn't try to get an accurate measure of public opinion about Social Security reform through a more rigorously, analytical sound measure.

Sexual Harassment Panda 03-08-2005 07:35 PM

Santorum, covered in glory
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That is confusing. It's hard to figure why Santorum didn't try to get an accurate measure of public opinion about Social Security reform through a more rigorously, analytical sound measure.
I think it was because he was divorced from reality.

Spanky 03-08-2005 08:05 PM

Wolfie
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Who failed to see what in the 80's? And does your brain hurt when you say something that stupid?
Just a few - liberals failed to see:

1) That the Contras would force free elections in El Salvador and lead to a liberal free enterprize democracy.

2) Continued aid to the "Far Right Dictatorship" in El Salvador would lead to a democracy

3) An escalated Arms race against the Soviet Union would undermine the Soviet regime by bankrupting it.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-08-2005 08:32 PM

Wolfie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Just a few - liberals failed to see:

1) That the Contras would force free elections in El Salvador and lead to a liberal free enterprize democracy.

2) Continued aid to the "Far Right Dictatorship" in El Salvador would lead to a democracy

3) An escalated Arms race against the Soviet Union would undermine the Soviet regime by bankrupting it.
(1) Liberals were the ones in favor of free elections in El Salvador.

(2) Unclear that the aid to the right wing in El Salvador was a positive factor in that country's development. It did help to get people like Archbishop Romero assasinated, though.

(3) Conservatives failed to see that as well at the time. (And I don't particularly buy that the arms race is what led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, but I understand that it's tough to shake the mental grip of the Reagan hagiography on that one.)

On (1) and (2), assuming you were referring to Nicaragua in (1), it's interesting to me that someone from the party of freedom and democracy would still be wanting to support U.S. aid for a repressive regime in El Salvador and for terrorists (more or less) in Nicaragua.


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