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andViolins 09-13-2005 09:59 AM

Oy Vey
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Was the Court asked to at any point during that period?
Didn't Brandeis "find it" in his dissent in Olmstead v. U.S.?

aV

nononono 09-13-2005 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's your provocative aura.
Heh. That aura gets me in trouble every time. I should start making better choices.

spookyfish 09-13-2005 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Heh. That aura gets me in trouble every time. I should start making better choices.
Too late. You found and posted on the PB.

nononono 09-13-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Too late. You found and posted on the PB.
Case in point. But frankly, there aren't enough girls posting regularly on this board, so I felt a pull.

spookyfish 09-13-2005 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Case in point. But frankly, there aren't enough girls posting regularly on this board, so I felt a pull.
Hank sometimes pretends to be a girl. Does that count?

nononono 09-13-2005 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Hank sometimes pretends to be a girl. Does that count?
Hank seems to have gender concerns, generally. And while I respect his right to self-define, I'd have to say no, it doesn't count.

Captain 09-13-2005 10:39 AM

Oy Vey
 
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Originally posted by andViolins
Didn't Brandeis "find it" in his dissent in Olmstead v. U.S.?

aV
I believe this is the first time the right to privacy is given constitutional overtones. In the Brandeis article, it almost sounds like the right to privacy helps to balance other rights, like the right to free speech.

But the first time the court finds a power or right to be implied rather than explicit in the constitution is McCullough v. Maryland; in this case, the early federalist-dominated court rejected strict constructionism as an interpretative method the first time the court had the opportunity to consider it, early in the life of the Republic.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 10:56 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by nononono
Heh. That aura gets me in trouble every time.
Powerful, indeed.

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Originally posted by nononono
I should start making better choices.

As the Black Sheep said:

Know you've heard the others, phonies to the lovers
Then of course, the choice is yours

You can get with this, or you can get with that
I think you'll get with this, for this is where it's at


eta: fwiw, W wouldn't know those black sheep, he hates black people......although not as much as Democratic Party Conscience the Honourable Senator Grand Cyclops Bobby Byrd

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Hank seems to have gender concerns, generally. And while I respect his right to self-define, I'd have to say no, it doesn't count.

I used to have some socks that appeared to be female. Does that count?

Hank Chinaski 09-13-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I used to have some socks that appeared to be female. Does that count?
Does notfrommensa "appear to be female" when part of the conceit is that nfh is actually a guy?

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:02 AM

Strict Construction
 
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Originally posted by Captain
What my other posts get to is that a true strict constructionist would severely limit rights people take for granted today, like much of what we view as freedom of the press. Another example is freedom of religion. There was a smattering of anti-Catholic leglislation still on the books in the early states, and then a torrent of anti-Catholic legislation was adopted as Irish immigration picked up at the time of the famines. It is not clear what the constitutional standards really would be with respect to freedom of religion until relatively late in the 19th century.

The papists need to be constrained, but notwithstanding that, the expansiveness of all of our rights is, quite simply, guaranteed by the Second Amendment, the only Amendment that really counts.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Does notfrommensa "appear to be female" when part of the conceit is that nfh is actually a guy?
I heard a rumour that juan is now juanita, nttawwt. Is that true or perhaps just a sweet transvestite?

nononono 09-13-2005 11:08 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Powerful, indeed.




As the Black Sheep said:

Know you've heard the others, phonies to the lovers
Then of course, the choice is yours

You can get with this, or you can get with that
I think you'll get with this, for this is where it's at


eta: fwiw, W wouldn't know those black sheep, he hates black people......although not as much as Democratic Party Conscience the Honourable Senator Grand Cyclops Bobby Byrd
Hmmm, affirmation, song lyrics and gratuitous political swipes, all in one! No wonder I wound up here.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:09 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by nononono
Hmmm, affirmation, song lyrics and gratuitous political swipes, all in one! No wonder I wound up here.

I'm multi-talented. nttawwt.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I heard a rumour that juan is now juanita, nttawwt. Is that true or perhaps just a sweet transvestite?
I heard the same thing. Sweet as...cherry pie.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:10 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I'm multi-talented. nttawwt.
Join the club.

Hank Chinaski 09-13-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
I heard the same thing. Sweet as...cherry pie.
No. juan es muy muy macho!

nononono 09-13-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No. juan es muy muy macho!
I don't know. You know how it is when rumors get started.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
I heard the same thing. Sweet as...cherry pie.
Wow, that is a scary reference. Have you been reading my diary?

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:14 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by nononono
Join the club.
I respect the Club, he is a sensible poster, but I think I want to keep it platonic with him, n.o., nttawwt.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Wow, that is a scary reference. Have you been reading my diary?
Yes, you emailed it to me, remember?

spookyfish 09-13-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Wow, that is a scary reference. Have you been reading my diary?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No. juan es muy muy macho!
No, but apparently Hank has, nttawwt.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Yes, you emailed it to me, remember?

:doh3: , that was the wine emailing.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:17 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I respect the Club, he is a sensible poster, but I think I want to keep it platonic with him, n.o., nttawwt.
"n.o."?

nononono 09-13-2005 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
:doh3: , that was the wine emailing.
Oh, oops. Do you want it back? I'm only through Volume I so far, so the secrets of Volumes II - XXX are still safe for the moment.

Penske_Account 09-13-2005 11:19 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by nononono
"n.o."?
No offence. I didn't want to hurt his feelings.

dtb 09-13-2005 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No. juan es muy muy macho!
But is he the correct answer to the age-old question:

Quien es mas macho?

nononono 09-13-2005 11:20 AM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
No offence. I didn't want to hurt his feelings.
Okay, I can see why you'd want to tread lightly there.

spookyfish 09-13-2005 11:27 AM

Because I thought Penske might like to know.
 
Who had the over?

On second day of hearings, Roberts questioned on Roe, abortion.

“It’s entitled to respect under those principles,” Roberts said. “I think it is a jolt to the legal system when you overturn precedent. It is not enough that you may think that a prior decision was wrongly decided.”

In his writings, Roberts has argued that the Roe v. Wade decision by the high court had been wrongly decided.

Troy Newman, leader of Operation: Rescue, said anti-abortion activists weren’t surprised by Roberts’ comments Tuesday but would watch him closely.

“We’re concerned about these statements, but the proof will come when it’s time for him to rule on these cases as a justice,” Newman said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9175162/

Southern Patriot 09-13-2005 11:27 AM

Strict Construction
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The papists need to be constrained, but notwithstanding that, the expansiveness of all of our rights is, quite simply, guaranteed by the Second Amendment, the only Amendment that really counts.
With the majority of the Supreme Court members being either Jewish or Catholic, do you really think the papists can be constrained?

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-13-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I've also said a million times that I also believe that, so long as there is this "right to abortion", then equal protection must allow a putative father the right to require an abortion - or alternately have the option of waiving all future obligations of child support.

This argument doesn't have as much popular support. Yet.
Proving once again that the Right loses interest in the unborn child once it is born. Child support is not an obligation of the parent, it's a duty owed to the child. So much for those family values.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Proving once again that the Right loses interest in the unborn child once it is born. Child support is not an obligation of the parent, it's a duty owed to the child. So much for those family values.
I think Slave even acknowledged this notion hasn't gained popular support. But I'm sure you didn't intend to broad-brush the entire right side of the aisle based on one person's idea?

Sidd Finch 09-13-2005 11:55 AM

Justice Janice Rodgers Brown
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Yes - that is exactly what I was saying. But do you remember anything about common law concerning rights?

That would be an oxymoron. Statutes always trump the common law. The common law cannot secure rights against the legislature; that has to be done by higher authority -- state constitution, federal constitution, or (in some circumstances) federal law.

At least, that's what I dimly remember from law school.

Did I miss the collective bout of insomnia last night?

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-13-2005 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
I think Slave even acknowledged this notion hasn't gained popular support. But I'm sure you didn't intend to broad-brush the entire right side of the aisle based on one person's idea?
Oh, I'll stop when Penske, Slave, bilmore, Hank, and Spanky do. What goes around, Dish it out, can't take it, etc. etc.

Captain 09-13-2005 11:59 AM

Justice Janice Rodgers Brown
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
That would be an oxymoron. Statutes always trump the common law. The common law cannot secure rights against the legislature; that has to be done by higher authority -- state constitution, federal constitution, or (in some circumstances) federal law.

At least, that's what I dimly remember from law school.

Did I miss the collective bout of insomnia last night?
I think you are missing the unwritten English constitution, but that is of questionable merit across the ocean and irrelevant here.

nononono 09-13-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Oh, I'll stop when Penske, Slave, bilmore, Hank, and Spanky do. What goes around, Dish it out, can't take it, etc. etc.
"He started it!"

sgtclub 09-13-2005 12:00 PM

PB's where its at
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
No offence. I didn't want to hurt his feelings.
You know I love you like a brother.

Sidd Finch 09-13-2005 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Proving once again that the Right loses interest in the unborn child once it is born. Child support is not an obligation of the parent, it's a duty owed to the child. So much for those family values.

I'm not taking Slave's side in this debate -- it's one of those issues where I think he gets a little loopy -- but I'm pretty sure you cannot have a duty to someone without an obligation from someone. It's like ebony and ivory.

Obligee gets the du-ty!
They're together in perfect har-mo-ny!
Get her pregant and you will have to pay lots of mo-ney!

Nut Penske 09-13-2005 12:02 PM

Where Were the Planes?
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Oh, I'll stop when Penske, Slave, bilmore, Hank, and Spanky do. What goes around, Dish it out, can't take it, etc. etc.
Didn't we establish last week that the whining pathetic little fools can't take it all? I'm not sure we need to establish that every week. But you'd think they'd take a hint. Let's ignore them and raise the level of discourse this week instead.

spookyfish 09-13-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Obligee gets the du-ty!
They're together in perfect har-mo-ny!
Get her pregant and you will have to pay lots of mo-ney!
[channeling penske]"Then why do weeeeeeeeeee?[/channeling penske]


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