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Tyrone Slothrop 12-12-2005 09:16 PM

Texas
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
The Governator just tried to pass a proposition in California whereby the drawing of the district lines would be taken away from the legislature and given to a panel of retired judges. A system that is used in a few states. Iowa has such a system and three of its five congressional seats were competitive last last election. California, out of 52 seats, did not have any that were competitive. In fact, of its forty state senate seats, eighty assembly seats, and fifty congressional seats, not one changed party hands in the last election.

The Unions spent twenty five million dollars to defeat the Governators proposition. That is reason 116 that I hate Unions.
Instead of appointing a bunch of guys who are supposed to be beyond reproach to do this job, they should change the system entirely. Here's my scheme:

Anyone can submit a redistricting plan. Of all the plans that produce congressional districts within certain (mathematically defined) population limits, the one with the shortest aggregate borders is the one used for the next ten years.

If Schwarzenegger really wanted reform, this is what he'd do. The system cannot possibly be gamed to protect incumbents, and it is guaranteed to mix things up by producing entirely new districts every ten years.

Hank Chinaski 12-12-2005 09:21 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I agree. Even more pathetic is when a poster uses a sock to set up a post by the primary to another person. A clear sign that someone has too much time on his/her hands. Maybe not as clear a sign as setting up a single-day-use sock, but in the ballpark for sure.


ETA: Post number 6000, baby! Woo hoo.
The fact that you sit in a position of authority and make these pronouncements is unfair, I think. We know you have access to IP address information and when you acuse people of socking it seems like you maybe know what you're talking about. Like Clinton when he said he had solved the North Korea nuke problem.

It's especially pernicious when you yourself are compromised and at fault. Like Clinton with the China/Missile secret/NK nukes issue.

ltl/fb 12-12-2005 09:51 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The fact that you sit in a position of authority and make these pronouncements is unfair, I think. We know you have access to IP address information and when you acuse people of socking it seems like you maybe know what you're talking about. Like Clinton when he said he had solved the North Korea nuke problem.

It's especially pernicious when you yourself are compromised and at fault. Like Clinton with the China/Missile secret/NK nukes issue.
Hank, when something is totally obvious, the coyly cute references don't work anymore.

Or something funnier to that effect. It's been a long-ass day.

Gattigap 12-12-2005 09:56 PM

California Death Penalty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The fact that you sit in a position of authority and make these pronouncements is unfair, I think. We know you have access to IP address information and when you acuse people of socking it seems like you maybe know what you're talking about. Like Clinton when he said he had solved the North Korea nuke problem.

It's especially pernicious when you yourself are compromised and at fault. Like Clinton with the China/Missile secret/NK nukes issue.
Most posters have some kind of natural boundaries that keep them from posting shit that no one would rationally believe. It's something like the ropes that keep a hot air balloon tethered to the ground.

Most posters, as I say, keep those strands pretty well tied. But when they come loose? Oh, boy. It can be an astonishing sight, watching them giddy and free from the constraints of rationality. Sometimes these ropes come untied slowly and deliberately, but others (such as those recently deceased among us) decide to dynamite those fuckers, all to increase one's rapid ascent.

Unfortunately, after that initial burst of intoxicating freedom, asphixiation seems to result, followed by aimless drifting and an unpleasant thud of a landing on the distant horizon.

Still, there's something fascinating about watching those rope strands whipping around the stakes as liftoff approaches. This was good work.

Spanky 12-12-2005 10:05 PM

Texas
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Instead of appointing a bunch of guys who are supposed to be beyond reproach to do this job, they should change the system entirely. Here's my scheme:

Anyone can submit a redistricting plan. Of all the plans that produce congressional districts within certain (mathematically defined) population limits, the one with the shortest aggregate borders is the one used for the next ten years.

If Schwarzenegger really wanted reform, this is what he'd do. The system cannot possibly be gamed to protect incumbents, and it is guaranteed to mix things up by producing entirely new districts every ten years.
This is not a bad idea. Although I betcha they could come up with a computer program that would create the districts with the shortest aggregate borders.

Spanky 12-12-2005 10:07 PM

Texas
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Instead of appointing a bunch of guys who are supposed to be beyond reproach to do this job, they should change the system entirely. Here's my scheme:

Anyone can submit a redistricting plan. Of all the plans that produce congressional districts within certain (mathematically defined) population limits, the one with the shortest aggregate borders is the one used for the next ten years.

If Schwarzenegger really wanted reform, this is what he'd do. The system cannot possibly be gamed to protect incumbents, and it is guaranteed to mix things up by producing entirely new districts every ten years.
Maybe we take to this chamber and get them to make this the next proposition.

Hank Chinaski 12-12-2005 10:22 PM

California Death Penalty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Hank, when something is totally obvious, the coyly cute references don't work anymore.

Or something funnier to that effect. It's been a long-ass day.
mmmmmm koi

Hank Chinaski 12-12-2005 10:23 PM

California Death Penalty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Most posters have some kind of natural boundaries that keep them from posting shit that no one would rationally believe. It's something like the ropes that keep a hot air balloon tethered to the ground.

Most posters, as I say, keep those strands pretty well tied. But when they come loose? Oh, boy. It can be an astonishing sight, watching them giddy and free from the constraints of rationality. Sometimes these ropes come untied slowly and deliberately, but others (such as those recently deceased among us) decide to dynamite those fuckers, all to increase one's rapid ascent.

Unfortunately, after that initial burst of intoxicating freedom, asphixiation seems to result, followed by aimless drifting and an unpleasant thud of a landing on the distant horizon.

Still, there's something fascinating about watching those rope strands whipping around the stakes as liftoff approaches. This was good work.
In HS art class, did you used to criticize Picasso?

ltl/fb 12-12-2005 10:23 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
mmmmmm koi
I don't eat (the vast majority of) things that live in water.

Gattigap 12-12-2005 10:30 PM

California Death Penalty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
In HS art class, did you used to criticize Picasso?
Only some of his works, notably his famous painting l'homme avec la guitare a frappé dans la tête avec un conseil.

Hank Chinaski 12-12-2005 10:39 PM

California Death Penalty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I don't eat (the vast majority of) things that live in water.
mmmmmm live things

Tyrone Slothrop 12-12-2005 10:42 PM

Texas
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Maybe we take to this chamber and get them to make this the next proposition.
Some months ago, I was talking to the guy outside the Ferry Building who was getting signatures for the Schwarzenegger folks, and after a few minutes I persuaded him that this was the better plan. If you know someone who would get behind, go nuts.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-12-2005 10:59 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Most posters have some kind of natural boundaries that keep them from posting shit that no one would rationally believe. It's something like the ropes that keep a hot air balloon tethered to the ground.
Either I'm missing the joke (Hi blueberry pomegranite juice and kettle one!) or disproved your own theory in your opening.

Hank Chinaski 12-12-2005 11:06 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Either I'm missing the joke (Hi blueberry pomegranite juice and kettle one!) or disproved your own theory in your opening.
no. with gatti you just have to look hard to find it. like Mrs. Taxwonk giving hubbie his yearly bj.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-12-2005 11:43 PM

California Death Penalty
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
no. with gatti you just have to look hard to find it. like Mrs. Taxwonk giving hubbie his yearly bj.
This pomegranite shit mixes perfectly with vodka. You must try this. How did I miss this?


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