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SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 03:17 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

notcasesensitive
So how many people have died from it? Seriously. Because more people die from alcohol every day than have died in that last decade from X.
I don't think death is the serious issue. Its going to be how many people have fried brains and will have to take zoloft et al for the rest of their lives in order to get out of bed.

robustpuppy 02-03-2004 03:18 PM

Win-wins?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If you figuratively mean "concert tickets", I'd suggest you adjust your drug lingo since that means something else.

Whereas if you literally mean "concert tickets", then I'd ask what the hell is wrong with you, you insipid bore.
Slave, now that you have 1010 posts, I am inspired to ask, if I gave you 22 minutes, could you give me the world?



ETA you ruined my joke by posting again so soon. Bastard.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-03-2004 03:18 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I don't think that many 12 year olds are dying from alcohol.
Or from cigarettes.

SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 03:20 PM

She's with me.
 
Quote:

ABBAKiss
So is Kelly Osbourne. What's your point? Are you still pissed off about the wake up call?
What can I say - that guy scared me.

Kelly Osbourne - damn, that's cold.

bold_n_brazen 02-03-2004 03:26 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I don't think death is the serious issue. Its going to be how many people have fried brains and will have to take zoloft et al for the rest of their lives in order to get out of bed.
You think the reason I have to take a Zoloft et al to get out of bed is because I fried my brain doing X?...

Shit, I thought it was because I had a really shitty childhood.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-03-2004 03:27 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I don't think death is the serious issue. Its going to be how many people have fried brains and will have to take zoloft et al for the rest of their lives in order to get out of bed.
How many people actually need Zoloft now? You don't need to be an X casualty to wind up on that shit. Hell, all you need to be is someone who's worried too much or depresed about some life choice.

There was a great article in the paper recently about how choice, and knowledge of life choices, creates anxiety and depression. The crux of it was that people now know how good they could possibly have it, or might have had it had they made different choices, and are confronted daily with the results of their decisions. This leads them to lament and brood - a sort of "the grass is always greener elsewhere" syndrome. In the old days, you didn't know how others lived because technology didn't shove it in your face. You didn't know you could find fulfillment in another career, location, etc..., so you didn't brood or get anxious about where you were or where you were going.

I buy the article's premise. Now I have to find someone to sue for the fact that I'll never be satisfied no matter what I do with myself.

robustpuppy 02-03-2004 03:29 PM

Reflexive verbs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now I have to find someone to sue for the fact that I'll never be satisfied no matter what I do with myself.
Forgive my nitpicking, but I think you mean to say "no matter what I do with my life."

notcasesensitive 02-03-2004 03:30 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I don't think death is the serious issue. Its going to be how many people have fried brains and will have to take zoloft et al for the rest of their lives in order to get out of bed.
Ok. How many?

It is one thing to make the argument that X is dangerous as a gateway drug. It seems to me that is the best argument you can make for it to be illegal.

Possible long-term effects? Ok. Let's see what evidence comes up (I don't think there is much conclusive evidence right now, but please, prove me wrong). And in any event I seriously doubt they could be as bad as those resulting from the use of alcohol and cigarettes.

X was initially used (fairly successfully, with supervision) as an antidepressant. There are even some psychiatrists who today believe that it would be helpful for treatment of certain types of patients.

It is, without a doubt, safer than either alcohol or nicotine. But the government wants people to worry about it, so they run ridiculous ads inferring that kids are dying from it. That is not true.

I haven't heard anything about the drug that NFH is discussing, and maybe kids ARE dying from it (I'll look into it). All I'm saying is I don't believe things that the government says about drugs in this country just because it is the government saying them. Our drug policy is a hypocricy-leaden mess.

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:31 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Comic actor: Ricky Gervais. Close second: Christopher Guest.
Gervais is hilarious.

I forgot to mention Bill Murray. He's like Chappelle for me. I would rather just hang out with him. It's like every one of his mannerisms is funny.

TM

greatwhitenorthchick 02-03-2004 03:33 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

There was a great article in the paper recently about how choice, and knowledge of life choices, creates anxiety and depression. The crux of it was that people now know how good they could possibly have it, or might have had it had they made different choices, and are confronted daily with the results of their decisions. This leads them to lament and brood - a sort of "the grass is always greener elsewhere" syndrome. In the old days, you didn't know how others lived because technology didn't shove it in your face. You didn't know you could find fulfillment in another career, location, etc..., so you didn't brood or get anxious about where you were or where you were going.

I buy the article's premise. Now I have to find someone to sue for the fact that I'll never be satisfied no matter what I do with myself.
When did we start caring about being fulfilled - that is what I would like to know. There are still tons of people in the world that do what they do because their father did it (I mean like the guy in Morocco who knows from birth that he is going to be a particular artisan because that is what he is expected to be because his father and grandfather etc were). Do they care about being fulfilled and just shut up about it? When I see other people like that it makes me feel very self-indulgent to be preoccupied with my happiness and yet at the same time if I live in a time when I can, why not? Hard to decide.

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:34 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
2b. I learned yesterday that the guy who uttered the line "In Philadelphia it's worth $50" is . . . well, let's make it a google-free trivia question. First person to answer correctly gets 10 points.
You don't know Diddley.

TM

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 02-03-2004 03:36 PM

Cough, cough
 
Everything you'd ever want to know about recreational cough syrup, including known deaths.

I knew some guys in college who liked to "robotize." They annoyed the fuck out of me. And it's not like you couldn't get real drugs.

SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 03:38 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

bold_n_brazen
You think the reason I have to take a Zoloft et al to get out of bed is because I fried my brain doing X?...

Shit, I thought it was because I had a really shitty childhood.
Yes.

And no, sweetie, the Paxil is for the shitty childhood. Please keep your meds straight.

robustpuppy 02-03-2004 03:40 PM

Cough, cough
 
Danger: using dextromethorphan as a recreational drug (or perhaps just being curious about it) causes one to become farsighted.

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:42 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I don't think death is the serious issue. Its going to be how many people have fried brains and will have to take zoloft et al for the rest of their lives in order to get out of bed.
So how many zoloft pills did you have this morning?

TM

NotFromHere 02-03-2004 03:42 PM

Cough, cough
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Everything you'd ever want to know about recreational cough syrup, including known deaths.

I knew some guys in college who liked to "robotize." They annoyed the fuck out of me.
Was it because of all the coughing and sneezing?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-03-2004 03:43 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You don't know Diddley.

TM
JFC, TM, Mr. Hand is already looking good, and I'm already feeling good.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 02-03-2004 03:45 PM

The Agony and the X
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I agree kids should not fuck around with X. Its seems to do nothing for a while. so you keep taking more and suddenly, pow - you're kicked in the nuts.
I wish someone would have told me to wait for the effects of the spacecake in Amsterdam...but nooooooooooo, I ate another.

Good night.

SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 03:46 PM

Glass Kitchens
 
Quote:

ThurgreedMarshall
So how many zoloft pills did you have this morning?

TM
My rent and student loan payments are sufficient motiviation to get me out of bed in the morning, thank you.

Et tu, Chef Marshall?

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:46 PM

Cough, cough
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Everything you'd ever want to know about recreational cough syrup, including known deaths.

I knew some guys in college who liked to "robotize." They annoyed the fuck out of me. And it's not like you couldn't get real drugs.
I knew those guys. They spent 3 days once completely fucking wasted off of nutmeg.

TM

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 02-03-2004 03:47 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
JFC, TM, Mr. Hand is already looking good, and I'm already feeling good.
*deep voice* Yeah!

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:47 PM

Cough, cough
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Danger: using dextromethorphan as a recreational drug (or perhaps just being curious about it) causes one to become farsighted.
Will that cancel out my nearsightedness?

TM

Hank Chinaski 02-03-2004 03:48 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Comic actor: Ricky Gervais. Close second: Christopher Guest.
Have you seen Gervais in anything other than the Office? If that's it, you can't make him the best comic actor. He's great in the role, but the role is perfect, with strong writing.
Until you see another role, you can't say he isn't another Don Knotts' playing Barney Fife, but getting ready for a career of Ralph Furleys.

SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 03:49 PM

D. Nile., M.D.
 
Quote:

notcasesensitive
It is, without a doubt, safer than either alcohol or nicotine. But the government wants people to worry about it, so they run ridiculous ads inferring that kids are dying from it. That is not true.
I honestly cannot believe that you are actually suggesting that E is a "safe" drug when I'm assuming you all have had actually had the severe cases of "suicide monday", the hourly euphoric ups and downs, the deathly chills and sleep deprivation that comes with frying your brain while dancing to Sasha and Digweed.

Not condemning the use at all - but all the same, not naive enough to dare suggest it isnt damaging.

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:49 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
JFC, TM, Mr. Hand is already looking good, and I'm already feeling good.
They're panicking out there. I can feel it. They're panicking. Get your posts up to 2000. By then you'll have weeded out all the suckers.

TM

NotFromHere 02-03-2004 03:52 PM

Cough, cough
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I knew those guys. They spent 3 days once completely fucking wasted off of nutmeg.

TM
Is that similar to smoking banana peels?

ThurgreedMarshall 02-03-2004 03:52 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
*deep voice* Yeah!
The funniest line in that movie that no one ever concentrates on is when he's in the bar, surrounded by women and the two guys from jail are approaching. He's talking to some girl when he says, "People don't understand my sexuality. I'm very sexual." Or something like that. Gets me every time.

So, what is the line from the song he's singing in the bathtub?

TM

robustpuppy 02-03-2004 03:52 PM

D. Nile., M.D.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I honestly cannot believe that you are actually suggesting that E is a "safe" drug when I'm assuming you all have actually had the severe cases of "suicide monday," the hourly euphoric ups and downs, the deathly chills and sleep deprivation that come with frying your brain while dancing to Sasha and Digweed.
Is all that really worse than the anorgasmia caused by Paxil?

(That ain't no cure for my childhood blues.)

Did you just call me Coltrane? 02-03-2004 03:57 PM

D. Nile., M.D.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Is all that really worse than the orgasm caused by Penske?
No wonder he's been in hiding.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 02-03-2004 04:01 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
So, what is the line from the song he's singing in the bathtub?

TM
I give. Haven't seen it in a while...

What do you think my moniker is, Clarence Beeks?

dtb 02-03-2004 04:03 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
2b. I learned yesterday that the guy who uttered the line "In Philadelphia it's worth $50" is . . . well, let's make it a google-free trivia question. First person to answer correctly gets 10 points.

You've GOT to be kidding.

I will be astonished (and it will be a sad, sad day for the FB) if someone hasn't already answered this, but the answer (of course), is Bo Diddley.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-03-2004 04:03 PM

DXM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
When did we start caring about being fulfilled - that is what I would like to know. There are still tons of people in the world that do what they do because their father did it (I mean like the guy in Morocco who knows from birth that he is going to be a particular artisan because that is what he is expected to be because his father and grandfather etc were). Do they care about being fulfilled and just shut up about it? When I see other people like that it makes me feel very self-indulgent to be preoccupied with my happiness and yet at the same time if I live in a time when I can, why not? Hard to decide.
We're an upper middle class nation. We'll never be satisfied.

Its harder to grow up with some wealth than none at all. If you had a cushy life for a while, it sucks to realize you'll have to grind like a fucking dog to maintain it. If you never had shit, everything you get is gravy.

Not Bob 02-03-2004 04:07 PM

Because Not Bob cares for all of you. Really.
 
From Yahoo: MTV says it got punk'd by Janet Jackson. Tom Freston, the chairman and CEO of MTV Networks, said Tuesday neither his company nor CBS knew of plans for the bodice-ripping incident during the Super Bowl halftime show ... Jackson said the incident, which exposed her right breast, went further than planned. A spokeswoman for Jackson said a red lace garment was supposed to remain when Timberlake tore off the outer covering.

And in my favorite example of "the buck stops anywhere other than here" corporate weasling in a long time: "When you're doing live television ... there's a great reliance and trust you have to put in the performers," Freston said in an interview after the panel talk. "And our trust was violated by the performer." Suit, please.

Link to Yahoo news story

ABBAKiss 02-03-2004 04:08 PM

D. Nile., M.D.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Is all that really worse than the anorgasmia caused by Paxil?

(That ain't no cure for my childhood blues.)
The first way you had it (pre ETA) I thought it said something about your "slutty childhood" and I thought "anorgasmia serves her right for all the sex she had as a child."

bilmore 02-03-2004 04:08 PM

Cough, cough
 
Thank you. As you get older, your sources for the more commonly-turned-to drugs dry up, and you need alternatives.

robustpuppy 02-03-2004 04:09 PM

D. Nile., M.D.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
The first way you had it (pre ETA) I thought it said something about your "slutty childhood" and I thought "anorgasmia serves her right for all the sex she had as a child."
Sicko!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-03-2004 04:10 PM

Black Ambition
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

So, what is the line from the song he's singing in the bathtub?

TM
I'm thinking, "Roxanne, you don't have to put out the red light."

But I do know that when he was a kid they had to fart in the bathtub if they wanted a jacuzzi.

notcasesensitive 02-03-2004 04:10 PM

Get your freak on
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I honestly cannot believe that you are actually suggesting that E is a "safe" drug when I'm assuming you all have had actually had the severe cases of "suicide monday", the hourly euphoric ups and downs, the deathly chills and sleep deprivation that comes with frying your brain while dancing to Sasha and Digweed.

Not condemning the use at all - but all the same, not naive enough to dare suggest it isnt damaging.
So your evidence is that it must be unsafe because you felt bad the next day? Hmm.

All I'm saying is that there is no evidence that it is any more dangerous than other stuff kids are using. Or even stuff that adults are legally allowed to use (and kids are illegally using).

And I am frankly concerned to have a drug policy that says - well if people are having fun with [insert substance name], better make it illegal. Kids will experiment with whatever they can get their hands on. Be it asthma inhalers, whipped cream cans, glue, etc. That is what they do. Some might even die from it. That was true when we were kids and it is true today. After they take away our Robitussen, kids will still find something to get high on. It is the way of the world.

SlaveNoMore 02-03-2004 04:11 PM

Mannish Boy
 
Quote:

dtb
You've GOT to be kidding.

I will be astonished (and it will be a sad, sad day for the FB) if someone hasn't already answered this, but the answer (of course), is Bo Diddley.
I'm holding out hope he was going for Ellas Bates McDaniel.

Note: I actually know this because during one college summer job, I filed a foreclosure on one of his homes

Gattigap 02-03-2004 04:11 PM

Comedians; Why Less will never watch HDTV
 
Comedians --

Concur with Eddie Izzard. I agree, his stuff doesn't lend itself to quotes, but the material is clever and the delivery quirky.

Same effect for Anthony Clark (who's been wasting his time and ours on sitcoms).

I suspect that it resonates far better with parents, but Bill Cosby's family humor can't be beat.


In other news, we can safely conclude that Less will not be investing in HDTV anytime soon. [spree: State article on the horrors of watching porn on HDTV. Sadly, no pics]

My favorite excerpt:

Quote:

Of course, as long as they've got some bedroom skills, adult performers needn't be absolute world-beaters in the looks department, so they tend to be a lot less lovely than your average Hollywood star. In addition, they end up revealing a lot more nooks and crannies than their mainstream peers, which means many more physical flaws can wind up on-screen. That's no big deal for peddlers of lowbrow or amateur smut, in which bad bodies are the norm. But keep in mind that DirecTV will be broadcasting films from two sources, Playboy and the Spice Channel, both of which pride themselves on being vendors of classy porn. The action on Spice is tame compared to what you might find at the local XXX store, and the stars typically sport toned, pneumatic bodies without visible shortcomings. If Cameron Diaz's otherworldly reputation can't survive HDTV intact, what chance does the Spice Channel's talent have? And will HDTV customers readily fork over $14.99 per three-hour movie block once they realize that the naughty sorority sister their order conjures up has amateurish implants, and the lucky TV repairman's skin redefines the word "leathery"?
Now I'm guessing that until the industry starts investing in prettier people, Less' viewing habits will be kept limited to the 13" Panasonic.*

Gattigap


* Taking the size joke one step further, while tempting, is discarded in the interest of avoiding a whiff on one's own post.


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