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sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2005 01:31 PM

President Dangerfield
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
Bill Maher did a riff on this on his HBO show:
  • Now, I kid, but seriously, Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you anymore. There's no more money to spend. You used up all of that. You can't start another war because you also used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people.

    The cupboard's bare, the credit card's maxed out, and no one is speaking to you: mission accomplished! Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service. And the oil company. And the baseball team. It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy . . . or spaceman?

    Now, I know what you're saying. You're saying that there's so many other things that you, as president, could involve yourself in ...

    Please don't.

    I know, I know, there's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela, and eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church. And Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote. But, sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised you haven't given yourself a medal. You're a catastrophe that walks like a man.

    Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire metropolis to rising water and snakes.

    On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two Trade Centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans ...

    Maybe you're just not lucky.

    I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side. So, yes, God does speak to you, and what he's saying is, "Take a hint."

Bush is like your budddy who always knew he was going into the family business. You know... the one who manages to take a great business and totally fuck it up in three years, then be forced to sell it and live off the proceeds and show up at dinners pathetically talking about how he's now a venture capitalist.

Only problem is, we can't sell off the asssets here.

Maher's right. Bush's ludicrous spending programs (which put classic Democratic spenders to shame) are the equivalent of that jackass friend leasing himself a few Porsches and buying some shore property with money which should have gone to retooling the plant.

Biggest problem down the road is, people like you and I will pay for the bailout when the Left comes back into office and starts taxing the piss out of everything.

Make no mistake - those who are currently getting rich have adopted a "grab all you can cuz this bonanza is going to end real soon" attitude. They're stockpiling, and sheltering. When the shit hits the fan, class warfare will murder you and I - not the hyperrich. I predict the mid to upper middle class is going to get wwhalloped by a Dem who can sell class warfare to the Entitlement Class.

Thats why I'm spending like a terminal plague is about to hit. I'd rather burn the money than see it redistributed later because of this fucking rube's idiot policies.

Hopefully, by then I'll be in a foreign land.

Shape Shifter 09-14-2005 01:32 PM

Nagin, Blanco embolden our enemies.
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Do you not remember our own governement's response to the earthquake in Iran? Are you not sickened by this story?
Sure, it makes me want to punch that grandstanding asshole in the face. But I don't view it as a threat to be taken seriously. He's just pandering to the rubes.

Can you think of anything the administration has said or done that would give them cause to feel threatened by us?

futbol fan 09-14-2005 01:33 PM

Frothy Mug
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if you knew the Griswold breakdown without going back- or even if you have gone back- then you are one pathetic mug.
Did you know it or did you go back?

Hank Chinaski 09-14-2005 01:35 PM

Frothy Mug
 
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Originally posted by ironweed
Did you know it or did you go back?
I was a publically wrong blowhard- which is ultimately the only respectable position.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2005 01:36 PM

Frothy Mug
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I was a publically wrong blowhard- which is ultimately the only respectable position.
Get you own shtick. Thats mine.

You're the confusing drunkard.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2005 01:47 PM

President Dangerfield
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
In a sense, Bush is like us. He's a moderately bright guy who doesn't want to do the work, finds it dull, but likes the money (in his case, power) it brings. President Lawtalker.

I think I should take offense by this.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to beat the crazy screaming/ranting bum on the street corner who no one listens to anymore b/c they don't have the time to decipher the shit from the substance, if there actually is any.

Good point. The ironic coincidence is I have spent the better part of the morning on the phone with one of the largest (after Zell's group) equity fund managers in Chicago, whom I have never represented, talking about representation on structuring a $2B RE development deal. Odd that someone in Chicago would call a crazy, screamin/ranting bum on the street corner, which corner is 2200 miles away, when someone as substantive and capable as you is right there in his own backyard (maybe in the same bldg, who knows?), if not for rep then for a referral. Perhaps he doesn't know no one listens to me anymore.

Because I feel an overwhelming ethical duty to my clients (or potential ones) I will give him your PM address.

In my reference, should I cite him to your substantive posts on anal creampies, DPs or sno-balling?

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Plus, I'm younger.
Yes, you are. Story:

Back when I did my first IM, in my youth, slightly younger than you are now, I wasn't sure what to expect. Turns out I had an affinity for the distance but I misjudged how to race on the run. I was in 5th AG/18th OA at mile 20 and my legs ran out of juice. I was struggling to hold 8:30s, but it was a better than expected showing and there was no one around me, so I figured I would coast in. At mile 23.5 I heard footsteps. Merde! From the sounds, this person was going to get me, hard. Acknowledging my weakness, I looked back. IT WAS AN OLD GUY. In my youthful innocence, he looked old enough to be my dad. I felt nauseaus. He passed me. I hung on his heels for 50 metres and was dropped. Like a red headed step-childe.

Turns out he set the World Masters record for IM that day. It held for 9 or 10 years. Respect your elders. Punk!!

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 01:51 PM

Where were the planes?
 
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Originally posted by Nut Penske
You still haven't explained Where Were the BUSES?
I don't know, we need to ask Nagin. and Blanko.

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sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2005 01:53 PM

President Dangerfield
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think I should take offense by this.
He's part of the crowd you didn't like... the really dumb frat guy who's been accused of date rape a bunch of times.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 01:53 PM

Off message
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
As to Blanco, at least, the Congressional Research Service seems to put her in the clear.

Nagin, I think, goes down in the next mayoral election - sometime in probably oh say 2008, when there is a NOLA again.

I predict that Bush will, in a moment of dry drunk confusion, award Landrieu a Medal of Freedom.
When is the Demo party leadership going to call her to task for violating a Fed statute? Censure?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 01:57 PM

Simply Classless
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Oh, you poor dear.

Here, you dropped this.

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good answer. I see a lot of liberals teach their children the same ill manners. While they would shit their adult depends if a kid in school called their kid fat or stupid or another perjorative term, they see no problem in teaching their children literally and by example, without context, that its okay to say the President of the United States is a fucking arsehold.

No wonder our the moral compass of the blue states is so far astray. Culture of death and mayhem indeed.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Nut Penske
Cute.

First, Where were the BUSES?
I don't know, we should ask Nagin, and Blanko.

http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/paro...ld_comfort.jpg

notcasesensitive 09-14-2005 02:01 PM

pubic hair coke guy
 
I enjoyed The Daily Show bit on Supreme Court confirmation hearings last night:

Really, there are only two kinds of Supreme Court confirmation hearings. Those involving pubic hairs on a coke can and those that don't. Unfortunately, this hearing falls in the latter category. Ah, pubic hair coke can guy. I wonder what he's up to now. A real "Where Are They Now" story...

I would have indented this if I had Gatti's mad indenting skilz.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
Are you the creator of those strips, or are you just taking all your talking points from them?
the latter, the rank and file liberals have no independent thoiught or judgment, it makes it easier to avoid responsibility later (although in fairness they have nothing to be responsible for up trhough last night, as that is all Ty's fault. Has he resigned yet?)

Gattigap 09-14-2005 02:01 PM

Simply Classless
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
good answer. I see a lot of liberals teach their children the same ill manners. While they would shit their adult depends if a kid in school called their kid fat or stupid or another perjorative term, they see no problem in teaching their children literally and by example, without context, that its okay to say the President of the United States is a fucking arsehold.

No wonder our the moral compass of the blue states is so far astray. Culture of death and mayhem indeed.
Yeah, that follows from Biden's comments.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 02:02 PM

In the spotlight losing my religion.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Captain
My point really was in response to yours. I'd suggested, and Spanky had agreed, that it would be reasonable to punish police officers guilty of unconstitutional behavior rather than applying the Miranda rule. You'd suggested that sovereign immunity was a problem.

My question is: why? Let's assume the police officer is a state official. Where is the power of sovereign immunity granted, and who granted it? Why sould it protect a police officer who violated a defendant's rights? I view sovereign immunity itself as a creature of "judicial activism", that is, a common law doctrine.

I hope you'll let me avoid a discussion of current 11th amendment jurisdprudence - my useful knowledge ends pretty much with its adoption.
Well, the federal government won't abridge state immunity, and states won't abridge state immunity for these purposes if they're still subject to the exclusionary rule. An interesting question (which I suspect Amar has answered) is whether a state could satisfy the fourth amendment by waiving sovereign immunity for wrongful search and seizure, and then would not have its evidence excluded. That's the tradeoff, and I suspect no state is going to open itself up to money suits on the chance the supreme court will agree with that position.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:07 PM

President Dangerfield
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bush is like your budddy who always knew he was going into the family business. You know... the one who manages to take a great business and totally fuck it up in three years, then be forced to sell it and live off the proceeds and show up at dinners pathetically talking about how he's now a venture capitalist.

Only problem is, we can't sell off the asssets here.

Why not? Privatize most everything, and/or sell it to the states. Get rid of the USA and reform as the CSA. Feds provide defence, fed judiciary (to ensure the Second Amendment) and foreign relations. the far more automonous states get the rest. It's inevitable, why not hasten the process.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:10 PM

President Dangerfield
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
He's part of the crowd you didn't like... the really dumb frat guy who's been accused of date rape a bunch of times.
You should love him, those were the guys that made you look that much better in comparison such that you became an acceptable guy for the sorority girls to lay. As long as the booze was flowing. No offence.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:13 PM

Simply Classless
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Yeah, that follows from Biden's comments.
It absolutely does. The liberals seek to throw out any sense of morality, decency, and decorum, because any lit bit of it threatens the boundaries of their faux-intellectually elite rude boorishness.

Its like the NARAL strategery on abortion. Abortions in the 39th week?!!? We can't prohibit those, its the woman's right to choose. Any infringement is a slippery slope. Disgusting.

Captain 09-14-2005 02:18 PM

In the spotlight losing my religion.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well, the federal government won't abridge state immunity, and states won't abridge state immunity for these purposes if they're still subject to the exclusionary rule. An interesting question (which I suspect Amar has answered) is whether a state could satisfy the fourth amendment by waiving sovereign immunity for wrongful search and seizure, and then would not have its evidence excluded. That's the tradeoff, and I suspect no state is going to open itself up to money suits on the chance the supreme court will agree with that position.
Leaving aside "won't", I think they can and should.

On a different topic, do you guys have rules or moderators here? Some of these posts are pretty strange.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 02:20 PM

In the spotlight losing my religion.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Captain
Leaving aside "won't", I think they can and should.

On a different topic, do you guys have rules or moderators here? Some of these posts are pretty strange.
Rule #1: There are no rules
Rule #2: Ty, the moderator, doesn't enforce the rules that exist.
Rule #3: He enforces rules he makes up.

BTW, Penske may have a different view on this.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:22 PM

In the spotlight losing my religion.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Captain


On a different topic, do you guys have rules or moderators here? Some of these posts are pretty strange.
2.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:25 PM

In the spotlight losing my religion.....
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Rule #1: There are no rules
2.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Rule #2: Ty, the moderator, doesn't enforce the rules that exist.
2. Altjhough I think that there may be another moderator. I am not sure. Who invented the GAPB?

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Rule #3: He enforces rules he makes up.
2. Also there is the made rule on not violating Fed statutes, but that one doesnt apply to Mary Landrieu.


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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)


BTW, Penske may have a different view on this.
2.

Secret_Agent_Man 09-14-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
When is the Demo party leadership going to call her to task for violating a Fed statute? Censure?
You've been saying this for two weeks, but what in the heck do you mean? Why do you think she threatened the President?

Or, is this a Federalist-style Alien and Sedition Act kind of thing?

S_A_M

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-14-2005 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Good point. The ironic coincidence is I have spent the better part of the morning on the phone with one of the largest (after Zell's group) equity fund managers in Chicago, whom I have never represented, talking about representation on structuring a $2B RE development deal. Odd that someone in Chicago would call a crazy, screamin/ranting bum on the street corner, which corner is 2200 miles away, when someone as substantive and capable as you is right there in his own backyard (maybe in the same bldg, who knows?), if not for rep then for a referral. Perhaps he doesn't know no one listens to me anymore.
Alright already. Here's a buck. For the record, I already bought this month's Streetwise, so you're lucky.

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Because I feel an overwhelming ethical duty to my clients (or potential ones) I will give him your PM address.
Thanks!

Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
In my reference, should I cite him to your substantive posts on anal creampies, DPs or sno-balling?
I trust your judgment, crazy man.


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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yes, you are. Story:

Back when I did my first IM, in my youth, slightly younger than you are now, I wasn't sure what to expect. Turns out I had an affinity for the distance but I misjudged how to race on the run. I was in 5th AG/18th OA at mile 20 and my legs ran out of juice. I was struggling to hold 8:30s, but it was a better than expected showing and there was no one around me, so I figured I would coast in. At mile 23.5 I heard footsteps. Merde! From the sounds, this person was going to get me, hard. Acknowledging my weakness, I looked back. IT WAS AN OLD GUY. In my youthful innocence, he looked old enough to be my dad. I felt nauseaus. He passed me. I hung on his heels for 50 metres and was dropped. Like a red headed step-childe.

Turns out he set the World Masters record for IM that day. It held for 9 or 10 years. Respect your elders. Punk!!
I've been dusted by old farts.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:40 PM

Off message
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?


I've been dusted by old farts.
Was that an assertion or a translation?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-14-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Was that an assertion or a translation?
Are you one of those wedding crop dusters?

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2005 02:46 PM

I guess the new question to ask Roberts is whether he's also a pussy.

Spree: goddamned California federal judges can't leave well enough alone.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You've been saying this for two weeks, but what in the heck do you mean? Why do you think she threatened the President?

Or, is this a Federalist-style Alien and Sedition Act kind of thing?

S_A_M
"If one person criticizes [Louisiana officials], or says one more thing, including the president of the United States, he will hear from me - one more word about it after this show airs and I - I might likely have to punch him - literally," Landrieu railed to host George Stephanopoulos.

The Secret Service was provided with a full transcript of the ABC broadcast, including Landrieu's incendiary remarks. Spokeswoman Lewis promised to find out whether the agency intended to launch an investigation after reviewing the transcript.

The agency took a tougher stance on Senatorial threats in 1994, when then-North Carolina Sen. Jesse Helms joked that President Clinton "had better watch out if he comes down here. He better have a bodyguard."

After a media firestorm erupted - with some pundits complaining that Helms had committed treason - the Secret Service swung into action, launching a full blown investigation into whether Helms' statement indicated that someone in North Carolina planned to assassinate the president.


Apparently threats against the executive branch aren't taken as seriously as they once were. Another sign of how the Dimwits have undermined the laws and moral fabric of our nation.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Are you one of those wedding crop dusters?
I don't know what this is intending to mean.

Secret_Agent_Man 09-14-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Apparently threats against the executive branch aren't taken as seriously as they once were. Another sign of how the Dimwits have undermined the laws and moral fabric of our nation.
Unwise choice of words.

So, what federal statute does she violate by saying that _if_ anyone, including the President, says "X" she "might likely have to punch [that person]"?

This will go as far as Bush wants it to go (and it has). He'll get to this right after he fires Karl Rove for outing Valerie Plame. (I guess it depends on what your definition of "is" is.)

BTW -- What duress was Jesse Helms under when he said the words you quote, which specifically and only addressed the President of the United States and arguably implied far more harm than a punch from a soft middle-aged woman?

S_A_M

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-14-2005 02:55 PM

Off message
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
"If one person criticizes [Louisiana officials], or says one more thing, including the president of the United States, he will hear from me - one more word about it after this show airs and I - I might likely have to punch him - literally," Landrieu railed to host George Stephanopoulos.

The Secret Service was provided with a full transcript of the ABC broadcast, including Landrieu's incendiary remarks. Spokeswoman Lewis promised to find out whether the agency intended to launch an investigation after reviewing the transcript.

The agency took a tougher stance on Senatorial threats in 1994, when then-North Carolina Sen. Jesse Helms joked that President Clinton "had better watch out if he comes down here. He better have a bodyguard."

After a media firestorm erupted - with some pundits complaining that Helms had committed treason - the Secret Service swung into action, launching a full blown investigation into whether Helms' statement indicated that someone in North Carolina planned to assassinate the president.


Apparently threats against the executive branch aren't taken as seriously as they once were. Another sign of how the Dimwits have undermined the laws and moral fabric of our nation.
Or that the Secret Service under Bush has turned into a bunch of pussies. Either or.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:55 PM

In Babyjesus We Trust. Literally.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I guess the new question to ask Roberts is whether he's also a pussy.

Spree: goddamned California federal judges can't leave well enough alone.

Seems like the real pussies here are the unnamed plaintiffs. Newdow is raving lunatic destined to get smacked down by the babyjesus when his number comes up, but at least he had the balls to go on the record with his filthy trashing of the American way. What are these unnamed plaintiffs scared of? The babyjesus' wrath? He sees them, named or not and the day of judgment is almost upon us. Verily.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-14-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't know what this is intending to mean.
From urbandictionary.com:

"Passing gas in a stealth manor, usually while walking through a crowd or a group, so that someone else gets blamed for the stench, or at the very least people besides the assailent must suffer it."

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 02:56 PM

Catering to the base
 
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ironweed
What exactly is he "stepping up" to? If he is truly responsible for the failure of his administration to adequately respond to this disaster, he should be stepping down.
I second that.

Cheney for President!!!!!!!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 02:57 PM

Simply Classless
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account

Its like the NARAL strategery on abortion. Abortions in the 39th week?!!? We can't prohibit those, its the woman's right to choose. Any infringement is a slippery slope. Disgusting.
Aren't you confident they'll just rot in hell for this? Why do we need to regulate?

Spanky?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
From urbandictionary.com:

"Passing gas in a stealth manor, usually while walking through a crowd or a group, so that someone else gets blamed for the stench, or at the very least people besides the assailent must suffer it."
If I feel confident in the stealth delivery, then guilty as charged.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 02:59 PM

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ironweed
As for the "fixing" bit, when can we expect the Republican babyjesus to start resurrecting those who died waiting for federal assistance to arrive? Sometimes "sorry" just isn't good enough.
Well, since Nagin proclaiming to the world the "death toll could exceed 10,000" - and since the actual total is currently only around 500 - it appears to be that babyjesus is already on the job.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 03:00 PM

Catering to the base
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I second that.

Cheney for President!!!!!!!
A heartbeat away from Hastert as president!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
If I feel confident in the stealth delivery, then guilty as charged.
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