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You are definitely in a small minority. I think most guys would agree that they are lucky to get treated every 6 dates or so, and most of the time it's breakfast. I'm not complaining and, in fact, I like paying - all I ask is for a "reach," just so I know it's appreciated. But to go back to the original point, our dating conventions are not very different from Sebby's prostitution analysis.

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Again, you are in the minority. What about your current boy-friend? Or on your next first day, are you really expecting to pay? And wouldn't you be put off if the guy didn't pick up the tab?

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Translation: I get lucky one out of every six dates.


Translation: My idea of getting lucky is a little different, which keeps my percentage down.

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What an apropos question, as I believe she is going on her first date since the breakup tonight!

Your "I like paying" in the prior post is kind of at odds with the tenor of the posts leading up to it. You like the prostitution model? You don't think any woman would fuck you purely for the pleasure of it, or have dinner with you because she enjoys your company? Pity.

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I am. Yay! And fwiw, I expect what will happen is that the check will come, I will offer to pay and he will say it's not necessary. On a first date, I wouldn't make a fuss and insist on paying or splitting it down the middle. It's tricky -- on the one hand, I would hate to be thought of as cheap, and again, I make more than he does (but we're almost even), but some guys take an insistence on splitting as an indication that the date didn't go well, and I wouldn't want to send that signal.

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Exactly. We are as one on this.

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But can you get off giving head?

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2. I will note that I don't usually "date". I tend to stumble into relationships without there ever having been a first date, unless "one night stand" counts.

This could explain why I'm more often single than not.

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I limited the extent to which she and I are as one. Geez. No, I haven't ever.

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If you end up in a relationship, then it's not a one-night stand, is it?

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The original post hoc!

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As a little experiment for the benefit of the board, can you out-and-out insist on paying tonight?

Now, clubby, should the guy be more interested because it's no longer just a financial transaction or less interested because once it's not a financial transaction he expects less? Or should Gwink lose interest because she's not gotten her dinner paid for?

When it rains.
 

From the above discussion, it is now clear. He was just looking to buy dinner.

The Elevator Says...
 

That GWB commented on the Libby thing by saying his decision to (what's the technical term here, I haven't really been following along) [commute Libby's sentence?] [pardon him?] was a "fair and balanced decision". Seriously? Can someone substantiate? That is awesome, if true.

The Elevator Says...
 

CNN does (scroll about half way down, to call-out on left