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08-15-2006 06:48 PM |
K Race
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I am very sensitive to other people's issues with how they are labeled. That is true. I am also sensitive to how words are used in a derogatory way when describing someone. And I may be wrong on this one. However, you have not outlined a reason, other than someone told you not to do it, that is convincing to me. I don't always agree with people when they tell me a term is offensive. I'm sure I do more than others, but I disagree with you on this one.
TM
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Why? You cited the definition. It relates to people who have diagnosable development disorders. Not psychological disorders, which are somewhat subjective, but actual development disorders which are characterised by tangible and/or empirical markers. Notwithstanding any other difference of opinion between us and any other deragatory term you want to use to describe me, I think you know that I don't have the empirical markers which would amount to a categorisation of "mentally retarded". I offered the example of one person, who had a developmentally delayed child who relayed her perception of the word's offensiveness to parents of and children who are afflicted with such reality. My understanding, although not scientfiically tested by me, that this is a common sensitivity amongst parents of developmentally delayed children, educators involved in that field and others who have an interest in being sensitive to others in their community. I said and maintain, that I stopped using the word, in any context (except our conversation here), not because the woman/parent inquestion is sitting on my shoulder monitoring me, but because I realised after she pointed it out to me that perpetuating the common/slang use of the word as a casual pejorative is insulting to those people actually affected by the reality of being developmentally delayed.
Why you want to argue that its still a good word to use or maybe people aren't sensitive I don't know. Maybe someday you wil have a developmentally delayed kid and someone will use the word to that child and you will feel differently. but then again that will be anecotal and not really representative of anything broad based or generally applicable.
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Also, you might want to ask yourself why you so frequently get tagged with that particular common misperception you mentioned.
TM
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If I got tagged with the categorisations irl I might be worried, but I am comfortable that while I may have arseholic thoughts from time to time, I am much beloved. Too much beloved in fact. I need less adoration but I people still flock to me. Like flies to shit.
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Awwww. I see now. If you wanted me to say that you are not an insensitive asshole, why didn't you just say so? You didn't have to go through all of this. And it's "hypocrisy," retard.
TM
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I know asshole, its my personal homage to posters who are no more.
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
That about sums it up right there.
TM
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My sentiment was no different than yours re: the subjectivity of what is worthy to post or not (eg: you don't care if I don't like yoiur sports posts, I don't care if you dont like my k posts). for every dissenter such as yourself, I have a comrade in socks, such as ppnyc. |
