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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, apparently, the DNC smear campaign was successful and the idiot Mtv generation fell for it hook, line and sinker:

Too bad these idiots don't vote.

Perhaps they're just listening to the presidential promises of a continued activist foreign policy and doing the math.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

10-08-2004 02:47 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Any comment on the current rumor in blogistan that this photograph from the debate shows Bush with some kind of communication device strapped to his back, so he could get prompting from afar?

http://www.electoral-vote2.com/images/bulge.jpg

Even Drudge seems to be pushing it now.

Gattigap

10-08-2004 02:49 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Any comment on the current rumor in blogistan that this photograph from the debate shows Bush with some kind of communication device strapped to his back, so he could get prompting from afar?

I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.

bilmore

10-08-2004 02:50 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Quote:

That's an old rumor. It's already been determined that the lump is Voldemort starting to claw his way out of Bush's body.

dtb	10-08-2004 02:50 PM

The argument for a big win

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Originally posted by bilmore
My guess is, this one goes down to the wire, is followed by tons of court challenges based on voter fraud, polling place problems, intimidation by officials, and malfunctioning equipment, and is finally resolved sometime in late December, in a very unsatisfactory way (to many.)

To about half, probably.

sgtclub

10-08-2004 02:50 PM

Thanks, Hank!

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Over the last couple of weeks, Hank and others have been kind enough to steer us toward the electoral map at electoral-vote.com. I just thought it would be useful to see where it is before the second debate, with all of the battleground states now having been polled since the first debate:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/oct/oct08.png

Having trouble with the image - try the link.

That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?

edited to fix graphic -- t.s.

sgtclub

10-08-2004 02:51 PM

Lies Lies and more Lies

Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Perhaps they're just listening to the presidential promises of a continued activist foreign policy and doing the math.

PA-LEASE

dtb	10-08-2004 02:53 PM

Thanks, Hank!

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Originally posted by sgtclub
That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?

Why did it have no credibility when Hank was trumpeting it?

But to answer your question, any state with a less than 10% margin of one candidate over another is counted as "weak", but if you put your mouse over the state, it will show that Kerry has 51% to Bush's 43%. I wouldn't call that "weak" either, but that's how this guy does it.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

10-08-2004 02:53 PM

Thanks, Hank!

Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?

Cf. dtb, supra.

Tyrone Slothrop

10-08-2004 02:54 PM

Thanks, Hank!

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Having been a devotee of this map for a while, nonetheless I have to say that on any given day, it doesn't necessarily mean much. What's useful is watching the trends as it changes from day to day.

And the AMT is, sadly, very real.

Gattigap

10-08-2004 02:54 PM

Data for a Divided Government

In an article otherwise devoted to the recent intelligence reform bill:

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"The appropriators rule here -- the fix is in," says Sen. John McCain. The maverick Arizona Republican has compiled data showing that in the 10 years the Republicans have controlled Congress, the number of "earmarked" pork-barrel spending projects moving through appropriations committees has grown from 4,126 a session to 14,040. The Senate defense appropriations subcommittee alone gets more than 3,000 requests for special projects from other senators; this session, the House Appropriations Committee has received more than 33,000 such requests.

WaPo

The GOP Congress. Your home of fiscal prudence.

bilmore

10-08-2004 02:56 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.

Besides, after listening to his performance, who could ever think he was getting prompts?

("Okay, now, pause, squirm, miss some key retorts, frown, and say "this is hard".")

Tyrone Slothrop

10-08-2004 02:56 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.

This would explain why Bush said "Let me finish" to no one in particular in the first debate. Neither Kerry nor Lehrer was interrupting him at the time.

Gattigap

10-08-2004 02:57 PM

Lies Lies and more Lies

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Originally posted by sgtclub
PA-LEASE

Heh. OK, it's a stretch to see college kids doing math, but you get the point.

Look at the current resources we've dedicated to Iraq, and ask yourself how we can easily continue at current levels, much less undertake any other initiative involving forces, absent significant changes to the system.

The fiction that we can do it enables both candidates to talk tough about chasing Terrorist Fuckheads across the globe without facing the problem.

Tyrone Slothrop

10-08-2004 02:58 PM

Slave? Anyone?

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Besides, after listening to his performance, who could ever think he was getting prompts?

("Okay, now, pause, squirm, miss some key retorts, frown, and say "this is hard".")

Now that you mention it, I wonder if he wasn't paying attention to his facial expressions because he was trying to listen to Kerry and Rove at the same time.

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