I love the "I love the 70s"
 

What's a "no-sex crush list"?

More importantly, what is the point of being on a no-sex crush list? I doubt I'd view membership on that list as a compliment.


Sidd(would prefer being on a no-crush sex list)Finch

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You missed my point entirely. I love it. I watch it almost every time it comes on cable.

I love the "I love the 70s"
 

It means I heart him and have a crush on him but have no desire to depose him. I simply want him to come to my party.

It is definitely better to be on a no-crush sex list, but it is hard to make this list since you don't typically know the names of the people on the list. For example, an entry on a sex crush list might read "Johnny Depp." Same entry on a no-crush sex list might read "some random wino." See what I mean?

I confuse me.

Thrashers Fan's team
 

It is like we are the same person (same backyard rink, same frigid miserable hockey-watching climate). Except (as I've mentioned before, I think, perhaps ad nauseum), I'm rather fond of the scarred, beat up, teeth knocked-out look.

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Similarly*, an "R" rating used to mean you were pretty much guaranteed some gratuitous breasticles, and maybe even a muff shot (Porky's, anyone?). Now an "R" rating means they say "fuck" a few times.



*Or differently, since as usual I don't quite understand your point, perhaps because I don't know if you can say "penis breath" on primetime non-cable TV.

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No, you understood my crotchety point entirely. The world has changed since E.T., in that now parents think PG means the film has been vetted for general appropriateness. It doesn't --- it simply means the MPAA won't stop your child from seeing the movie.

Pre-"Gremlins," there was no PG-13. PG meant that the film had adult themes that required parental guidance, but the film might be harmless --- even healthy --- for children under 18 if that guidance was forthcoming. Because of the broad range of films in the PG category, adults had to make a decision about whether an individual film was appropriate, because the MPAA was merely putting up a yellow light. (My parents pre-screened "Star Wars" for my six year old self, and decided I could handle it if I watched it with them.)

Now, with the creation of PG-13, all need for parental guidance for straight PG movies is off the radar screen. If it's PG, it's appropriate for kids both over and under 13 (sayeth America, though in fairness the MPAA didn't desire this result). So many parents now just use all ratings as an index of the number of times the "s" word is used.

The whole rating system is mostly fucked. Roger Ebert recently made the point that "Whale Rider" got a PG-13 because of one "shit," one "damn," three non-sexual references to "dicks," and a hash pipe in the background of one shot. Meanwhile, all of the Star Wars movies got straight PGs, even though a few of them involved entire planets of people being murdered in wide shots. Ebert went on to say that any film rating system that puts "Whale Rider" in the same category as "Charlie's Angels Full Throttle" and "2 Fast 2 Furious" vis-a-vis their appropriateness for kids has "lost all reason." I think he might have intended the double entendre.

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"Red Dawn" was actually the first film released as PG-13, oh Mr. Pedantic one.

Movie Timmies
 

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"The Flamingo Kid" was the first film to be given a PG-13 rating, but sat on the shelves for five months before being released, during which time "Red Dawn" was released.

What do I win?

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The subdivision of PG into PG and PG-13 doesn't really explain the purging of breasts from R-rated movies. Which I personally view as a cultural tragedy (though, as always, it depends on the tits).


Violence has never been on a par with sex or swearing in the MPAA world, or in the world of Middle America. Violence -- unless it's really bloody, ugly violence (as opposed to the clean and fun kind of killing) -- is just not viewed as that big a deal.

I remember in college, an older student commented how she couldn't protect her teenage kids from watching videos at friends' houses, and mentioned Top Gun -- she thought the flying parts were fine, but the "other stuff", shudddder. In other words, blowing people up, good. Tits, bad.

This contrasts sharply with my worldview.

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Things are different now.

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My post remains a true statement, Monsieur Assclam. As any schoolboy knows, the PG-13 rating was created in response to the furor over the cartoonish gore of "Gremlins" (PG) and "Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom" (PG). That's why I used it as the watershed, though admittedly it's just opposite "Red Dawn" on the other side.

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

I'm not surprised you grew up in a locale where movie theaters actually enforced the ratings system. I credit your effeminacy to insufficient exposure to cinematic sex and violence in your youth.

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As further proof that the world was made worse, not better, by the creation of PG 13, older PG movies occasionally involved revealed breasticles. Two examples I found were "Logan's Run" and "Clash of the Titans."*

*bridge of love disclosure: Contains Googled information.

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch

No duh, when Midnight Cowboy was originally released, it was considered shocking that Voight was a "hustler." In contrast, the countless casualties in "Red Dawn" raised few eyebrows.

Cube
 

Traci Lords was blackballed (so to speak) from the Adult Video Industry after nearly destroying it with her underage performances. The only legal Traci Lords adult title is Traci, I Love You, which she self-produced. (Haven't seen it, that's what Less is for.) While being a porn auteur might be her calling, I think she's still going to try (and fail) to be a mainstream star.

Tara Reid, on the other hand, is about one meth binge away from a weekend in the Valley where she (and the world) discover her true talent lies in not merely playing Bunny Lebowski but in being Bunny Lebowski. Picture a world where she and Asia Carerra triumphanty reunite for Logjammin' 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Oh, and Cube was good. I don't normally like horror/thriller movies, but it was an exception. Dogma was not good, but I think Alanis peaked on "You Can't Do That On Television."