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sebastian_dangerfield 10-11-2004 05:23 PM
I'm Pleased
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me

3. Speaking of bridges, if you could build a moat around the ghetto, do you think society would? For or against?

Hello
It already has. Its called welfare. It keeps the rotten stasis. I'm not "for" it, but I see no other option. People have to eat and riots in the streets don't help anyone.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-11-2004 05:25 PM
Cubans for Kerry?
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Some of my family members in Florida speculate that had it not been for Elian Gonzales, the election in Florida wouldn't have been as close in 2000. I know quite a few of my Cuban family members voted against Gore because of the way the whole thing was handled by the Clinton administration. The photographs that the Penske socks posted over and over again were very effective.

A lot has happened since then, and memories have faded a bit. Most of the Cuban members of my family say that they're voting against Bush this time around. This wing of the family has traditionally run for office in South Florida as Republican.

Sun Sentinal editorial from Cuban-American on why he's abandoning Bush. This doesn't seem like a demographic that Bush would want to lose.
You're part Cuban? When can I have that hug?

bilmore 10-11-2004 05:30 PM
Cubans for Kerry?
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Some of my family members in Florida speculate that had it not been for Elian Gonzales, the election in Florida wouldn't have been as close in 2000. I know quite a few of my Cuban family members voted against Gore because of the way the whole thing was handled by the Clinton administration. The photographs that the Penske socks posted over and over again were very effective.

A lot has happened since then, and memories have faded a bit. Most of the Cuban members of my family say that they're voting against Bush this time around. This wing of the family has traditionally run for office in South Florida as Republican.

Sun Sentinal editorial from Cuban-American on why he's abandoning Bush. This doesn't seem like a demographic that Bush would want to lose.
I was sort of amazed by that. On the one hand, the anti-Castro feelings aren't being fed enough by Bush - that seems to be complaint #1 - and then the travel restrictions, which were his (admittedly poorly aimed) attempt to hurt Castro, end up pissing off the anti-Castroites. So, they vote for Kerry? Seems self-destructive - or have the anti-Castro feelings subsided so much that it's no longer a factor?

sgtclub 10-11-2004 08:03 PM
The October Surprise
 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041011/D85LDJ680.html

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.

Not Me 10-11-2004 08:10 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041011/D85LDJ680.html

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.
If the swing voters get to know who Kerry really is, they will hate him. Hell, even the Dems don't like him. They just hate Bush more than they don't like Kerry.

Gattigap 10-11-2004 08:18 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041011/D85LDJ680.html

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.
What's interesting that you've predicted doom for Kerry before .

I agree, however, that this doesn't sound too good, so this time you might be right. Though, given what I now know about the liberal broadcast media, I have no doubt that something will turn up, and it'll never air.

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2004 08:18 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

sgtclub 10-11-2004 08:24 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
What's interesting that you've predicted doom for Kerry before .

I agree, however, that this doesn't sound too good, so this time you might be right. Though, given what I now know about the liberal broadcast media, I have no doubt that something will turn up, and it'll never air.
That was more of a joke. This time I'm serious. If this thing airs without enough time to effectively repair the damage caused, it is O-V-E-R.

sgtclub 10-11-2004 08:25 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
the word? I'm quite sure of the meaning.

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2004 08:35 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041011/D85LDJ680.html

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.
I know absolutely nothing about FCC regulations pertaining to broadcast TV transmissions, licenses regarding same, etc., but -- wouldn't this run afoul of the equal time requirement? Can Kerry force Sinclair to run "F9/11" in response?

Not Me 10-11-2004 08:43 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
I agree, however, that this doesn't sound too good, so this time you might be right. Though, given what I now know about the liberal broadcast media, I have no doubt that something will turn up, and it'll never air.
The thing I find so entertaining about you Dems is that you admit that if Kerry's own actions are publicized, this is not good for his chances to be elected. There is no spin here. This is just showing footage of Kerry saying what he believed in. And of men who were held as POWs expressing how they felt about what Kerry said.

When the truth about Kerry is known, he will be a reviled figure. Even you Dems don't defend what he did. You just hate Bush so much that you will tolerate this vile man as your candidate.

Gattigap 10-11-2004 08:47 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Not Me
The thing I find so entertaining about you Dems is that you admit that if Kerry's own actions are publicized, this is not good for his chances to be elected. There is no spin here. This is just showing footage of Kerry saying what he believed in. And of men who were held as POWs expressing how they felt about what Kerry said.
You've bought the DVD? Cool!

(Now, that, my friends -- THAT is a concerned citizen.)

C'mon, tell us about some of the details.

Not Me 10-11-2004 08:56 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
You've bought the DVD? Cool!

(Now, that, my friends -- THAT is a concerned citizen.)

C'mon, tell us about some of the details.
looking for a defense of Kerry in what you post, but not finding it. There is no defending this man. Unless you call Bush Lied a defense of Kerry somehow.

SlaveNoMore 10-11-2004 09:02 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Sexual Harassment Panda
I know absolutely nothing about FCC regulations pertaining to broadcast TV transmissions, licenses regarding same, etc., but -- wouldn't this run afoul of the equal time requirement? Can Kerry force Sinclair to run "F9/11" in response?
Dan Rather already ran a hatchet job.

Call it even.

Gattigap 10-11-2004 09:18 PM
The October Surprise
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Dan Rather already ran a hatchet job.

Call it even.
Maybe Michael Powell can call this one the "Free Noogies" Rule.*








* I am completely unfamiliar with the FCC regs here. I simply could not resist the temptation to coin this term, which seems to occupy the heart of GOP apologia as the campaign winds down.


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