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SlaveNoMore 09-28-2004 02:27 AM

Let's Go on the Record
 
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sgtclub
I have said many times that I think this will be a close race (absent a complete drubbing this Thursday). But I do think that Bush will win, and I'm happy about this for many reasons, one of which is that we won't have to hear from the frenchman again for a while (or at least until 2006, if he pulls an Al Gore).

I'm sure, however, that the left will have innumerable excuses for the lost (e.g., the swiftvets, Florida, Kerry didn't go negative enough, etc.). So I'd like you people to go on the record with your excusses now, so that we won't have backfill later. If Kerry should lose, what are the excuses?

efs
I'll start


The dead were disenfranchised in Illinois (against all precedent).

Two million blacks were disenfranchised in Idaho and New Mexico.

Five million Democrats in Pennsylvania when disenfranchised when - according to McAwful- they accidentally pulled the lever for Bush.

SlaveNoMore 09-28-2004 02:31 AM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Unlike Kerry, you guys seem to think that Bush is a strong candidate, and he certainly has all the advantages of incumbency. So if he loses, it's pretty much a referendum on his policies, right?
OK, now you're confusing Boards.

Name a single one of us who suggested Bush was a strong candidate?

It's only because the Dems put a fucking empty lunchbox at the top of their ticket that Bush is (1) able to motivate his base and (2) get people like me, Club and Hello to zealously promote his candidacy.

Tyrone Slothrop 09-28-2004 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
OK, now you're confusing Boards.

Name a single one of us who suggested Bush was a strong candidate?

It's only because the Dems put a fucking empty lunchbox at the top of their ticket that Bush is (1) able to motivate his base and (2) get people like me, Club and Hello to zealously promote his candidacy.
He's a weak candidate because his policies are so fucked up?

SlaveNoMore 09-28-2004 02:53 AM

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Tyrone Slothrop
He's a weak candidate because his policies are so fucked up?
Domestically, I think Bush could do a lot better (and I've said this at least 20 times on these pages). A lot more Jack Kemp and a lot less Jack Kennedy.

But Kerry would be much worse, so its a non-starter

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 03:26 AM

Collateral Damage
 
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Presumably you read the full statement accompanying the veto and didn't rely on the "laudable but unnecessary" blurb of newspaper writers, correct?
Just finished reading it. What does his veto statement say that I didn't? Can be accomplished through other government regulation. This is a GOP governor? Call Trent Lott and tell him he can vote against environmental legislation because it could be more efficiently enacted through EPA rulemaking.

Arnold said he would make California business friendly, but like all Republicans he refuses to admit that life in a modern industrial state would be unbearable without byzantine government regulations. Live by the soundbite, die by the soundbite. Too bad AS never made a movie with a cute quip about a petard before administering a coup de grace to an incapacitated villain.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 03:41 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Okay, to be fair, you stop filibustering judges and let them up for votes, and we'll stop with the pledge silliness. Deal?
If you were capable of delivering on even one promise made on behalf of your party, I might take that deal.

Except I don't want the GOP to stop embarrassing you. So no dice.

Still wonkin' . . . .

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 03:51 AM

While I'm ranting...
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Joe Lockhart's "puppet" comments about Allawi yesterday were beyond disgraceful. Kerry needs to immediately and publicly fire this jackass, retract his statements and apologize to Allawi, his cabinet and all of our troops overseas.
I thought in the new era we didn't kowtow to foreign leaders. Pussing out makes Jesus cry.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:02 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
I actually wouldn't be surprised by this. Failed assault weapons ban renewal aside, DiFi has been doing a reverse Scarborough (now that's a term I never thought I'd coin) for a while now. The Green party aficionado whose rants I am subjected to whenever I go to the office refrigerator bitches about her conservative streak as often as he explains to me how Halliburton is inserting subliminal messages into SpongeBob episodes to get kids to support drilling in ANWR.
DiFi supports a flag burning amendment. 'Nuff said.

I do not believe that Democrat millionaires do much better of a job with the people's business than Republican ones. Neither group has lived my life, or the lives of the people who actually can be helped by a government properly run. Won't Obama be the poorest of the Senators? Or the one with an annual income closest to the American average?

The Senate is a fucking joke. If our founding fathers saw what the Senate has become, with some states having more Senators than Reps., and legislation being basically a massive wealth transfer to less populous states WHICH ARE LOSING IN THE POPULATION MARKETPLACE, they would choke on the Great Compromise.

SlaveNoMore 09-28-2004 04:06 AM

While I'm ranting...
 
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Atticus Grinch
I thought in the new era we didn't kowtow to foreign leaders. Pussing out makes Jesus cry.
This is the best rationale I've heard all week. Touche!

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:12 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by Not Bob
OK, "Bad Bad Leroy Brown" was a huge hit for Croce, but it ain't the song that people who think he was an artiste have in mind when they sigh wistfully over his passing. Try "Time in a Bottle" or "Operator."
FWIW, I am fonder of "Box No. 10" and "Roller Derby Queen."

Come to think of it, "Box No. 10" would benefit from some kind of punk cover. If str8 were here, I'd aks him to get a message to Rancid's A&R man.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:27 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Regardless, that is not the point. The point is that Kerry's/Lockhart's choice of words was, and this is an understatement, extremely undiplomatic.
Did you not get the memo? Diplomacy makes Jesus cry.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:34 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by Sebby
It deserves air, and to argue that it puts soldiers in harm's way, even though it clearly does not, is pretty damn shitty and low.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
3) To argue the truth is shitty and low? As you may say, so fucking what?
Hidden lesson: Transactional lawyers have no appreciation for the danger to a frequent litigant of setting bad precedent. Like an insurance company getting a really really really bad coverage decision.

That said, it's hilarious that between Kerry and Bush, in Slave's mind Kerry is the one putting soldiers in harm's way. If he just showed up for another 10% of Senate votes, he could control the weather, too.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:37 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Environmental corporate externalities, e.g. pollution, are bourne by society as a whole.
Outed! Coltrane's Canadian. Hooda thunk?

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:44 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
You know how the car relates to this? It allowed people to move farther away from *Democrats and still make it into work by 9:00 AM each day.
Motherfuck. How is it we keep getting stuck being responsible for Republican initiatives we vociferously and unsuccessfully oppose?

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:50 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
An off-the-cuff comment to Matt Lauer on a train in specific context is hardly comparable to 6 months' worth of Kerry speeches.
In litigation, we argue that unguarded moments are guileless ones. It's the basis for the hearsay exceptions you're most likely to remember, like Dying Declaration, Present State of Mind, and Folksy Moment with NBC Morning Show Host.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:53 AM

Reach out and touch faith.
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
If you keep misunderstanding him, there is nothing more I can do for you.
Your own . . . personal . . . Jesus.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 04:57 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The world is a far different place than 1991. Why in god's name would we WANT troops from Syria, Saudi Arabia or Egypt?
Handing over Iraq to the Iraqis is insanity. Some o' them fuckers is shooting us.

ETA: Damn you, Gatti!

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Thanks, Ty. The Spanish commentary has been sorely absent for some time. I feel positively refreshed catching up. What color white do they really favor for flags, anyway?
Psst. Your man Slave puts a lot of credence in individual Spaniards, and he's been covering for your ungrateful ass while you've attended to other priorities. Don't shit where you eat.

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 05:04 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
You are a naive little asshole. It is a war. It is WWIV. Pay attention, or slowly concede your life. Those people at Pearl Harbor could have been polite, too, but what woud it have gained for them?
Allies?

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 05:07 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Do you not understand that other people can have intellectual processes too? That "Islamicist" can have an exact meaning?
How exact? Can all the GOP members who voted to deprive our independent judiciary of the ability to hear pledge cases be called "Baptistists?"

Atticus Grinch 09-28-2004 06:14 AM

"Doy," nor "No doy"? You decide!
 
Viewers of Jon Stewart's show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch "The O'Reilly Factor," according to Nielsen Media Research.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have said many times that I think this will be a close race (absent a complete drubbing this Thursday). But I do think that Bush will win, and I'm happy about this for many reasons, one of which is that we won't have to hear from the frenchman again for a while (or at least until 2006, if he pulls an Al Gore).

I'm sure, however, that the left will have innumerable excuses for the lost (e.g., the swiftvets, Florida, Kerry didn't go negative enough, etc.). So I'd like you people to go on the record with your excusses now, so that we won't have backfill later. If Kerry should lose, what are the excuses?

efs
There are no excuses. He's the worst candidate of all time.

The anemic left's current campaign of "Its not Kerry's fault that he's thoughtful and complex (see: longwinded and scatterbrained) - the problem is with the stupid American voters and their 30 sec attention spans" is probably the worst band-aid that could be applied. "So, how should we address the fact that John can't shorten his message to a good soundbite? Hmmm... lets call the audience stupid. Then they'll listen." Carville must be downing bourbons buy the half-dozen. He'll be lucky to have a job handicapping city council races on local cable after the damage being connected with this lead zeppelin of a campaign does to his name...*

* Hindenberg is my preferred analogy, but Kerry's never been airborn.

Hank Chinaski 09-28-2004 10:20 AM

Caption, please.
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bush & Allawi:

http://www.wonkette.com/images/don't...9;t%20tell.jpg

You may fire when ready, Gridley.
"Yeah, well Rove said if I start holding hands with world leaders surveys are showing we'll pick up some momentum in a place called Marin County. He said if we can get California tight to within a few points, there's a more agressive phase 2 we'll have to consider to get votes out of a place called Che or Fidel, no wait Castro!"

sgtclub 09-28-2004 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Unlike Kerry, you guys seem to think that Bush is a strong candidate, and he certainly has all the advantages of incumbency. So if he loses, it's pretty much a referendum on his policies, right?
specifically on Iraq.

Hank Chinaski 09-28-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
All those Left Behind as children in the Red States.
If I move to a Red state, will it help my kid start on the basketball team?

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 10:34 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
1) You're the only one on here saying the criticism was "unpatriotic". The truth of the matter is that the comments were wholly irresponsible and politically unjustifiable.

2) What the people say in the streets and what the would-be leader of the US say and do are 2 separate things. If you see no distinction, you're insane.

3) To argue the truth is shitty and low? As you may say, so fucking what?
1. "Irresponsible" and "politically unjustifiable"? Jesus, man, do you think I've never been introduced to the concept of "wiggle words"? Consciously or unconsciously, the message Lockghart's criticism was intended to convey was that Kerry's comments were unpatriotic and endangering American soldiers. You can massage that message all you like to avoid getting broadsided like Lockhart. In that case, assume my criticism is directed at Lockhart, not you. You're absolved, you semantic dandy...

2. Bullshit. The GOP have a ten foot erection for "straight talkers" at the moment. Everybody's yammering about how Bush "tells it like it is." Kerry told it like it is. Bush's people just don't like being assfucked with their own favorite rhetorical device.

3. Exactly.

I will give you this... the Dem's present campagin of villifying Cheney and Bush for accusing Kerry of being AQ's favorite candidate is just as ludicrous as Lockhart's whining about Kerry's comments on Allawi. It is entirely proper for Bush to say that Kerry would put us in peril - national defense is a huge issue this election. That said, Bush is dead wrong factually. AQ is PRAYING for a Bush re-election. The LAST thing they want is Kerry playing nice and trying to take away the moral authority they've accumulated in the muslim world as a result of Bush's pre-emption doctrine. Bush will bring the war they want - if AQ could, they'd probably donate to Bush's campaign.

Secret_Agent_Man 09-28-2004 10:35 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
There's a big difference between pro-life and pro-death. Be more exact.
Here is what he said: "If Tom Cobourn gave money that was funneled to people who bomb abortion clinics, deporting him would be fine with me."

How could one be more exact?

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 09-28-2004 10:37 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Migawd, you are truly a hotair fuckin' thompson wannabe.
Just figured that out? No offense, Sebby.

S_A_M

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 10:42 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
In litigation, we argue that unguarded moments are guileless ones. It's the basis for the hearsay exceptions you're most likely to remember, like Dying Declaration, Present State of Mind, and Folksy Moment with NBC Morning Show Host.
Rubbish. There's an old Irish saying that "Every joke is a half truth." There's another that claims "A man is never more honest than when in his cups." Both employ the same dubious assumptions behind the Dying Declaration and Present State of Mind exceptions.

I liike arguing evidentiary motions/objections because evidence is based on such a pile of horseshit assumptions, but I don't trust any of it. Its worse than statsistics/projections.

Secret_Agent_Man 09-28-2004 10:45 AM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
What do you think "neocon" means?

ETA - It's a conservative viewpoint that accepts the role, and the morality, of Israel, as a good thing.
That _may_ be what the term meant in 1970, but it is certainly NOT what the term means in 2004.

Ah -- drinking in the airport while awaiting your flight. Now it begins to make more sense.

Don't be too hard on BB -- he's spending much of his political time these days as an apologist for incompetents.

S_A_M

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 10:54 AM

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Migawd, you are truly a hotair fuckin' thompson wannabe. Screw you, and maybe shut up when you know nothing.

It IS exactly like Neil decided to be a fuckin' islamisict. You didn't grow up playing guitar and singing and leading to 200 kids with Cat's songs didja?

Stop and think - maybe other people had different experiences.
Actually, I stole more of my style from PJ O'Rourke, but I had to leave his writings when he slid from libertarian to right winger.

Know nothing? Hot air? Are YOU really accusing ME of being full of shit and opining on what I don't know? I've told you this before, but it bears repeating - when you become entertaining or enlightening, I'll tip my hat. Until then, I'll treat you like a free Bud at a cookout. I'd prefer to have a good beer, but if all you've got is some bland unoffensive suds, I'll drink it.

I am not suprised in the least that you'd lead 200 kids in some glorious version of Peace Train>Kumbaya. Where can I get a tape of your "Fresh Air Kamp 1986" with the legendary 20 min Been Through the Desert on a Horse with no Name?

PS - I don't care about your experiences.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 11:03 AM

things proven today
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Bush has championed the biggest inititive, and overseen the greatest result in increasing alternative energy cars and resultant emission reduction. Look it up.

See! Provide a real cite and some "evidence" of harm and I'll blow it apart.
If you believe that Bush has any intention of actually getting hydrogen cars or more electric cars on the road in the near future, or that his meager allowance of a few billion toward research toward production of such cars is anything more than lip service to people crying about oil dependency, you have passed through the looking glass and are now incapable of sensible debate.

I'll bet my wife's ring finger and a case of Red Stripe that the billions promised will never even get to the hydrogen car/electric car program. Bush will proclaim success on fighting for alternative energy sources, sign some piece of paper in the Rose Garden called "No Hydrogen Car Left behind" and then a few million will trickle to some eggheads at MIT. When they call for the second wave of the pedged financing, those eggheads will get a "This line has been disconnected" message at the White House switchboard.

Hank Chinaski 09-28-2004 11:51 AM

things proven today
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
If you believe that Bush has any intention of actually getting hydrogen cars or more electric cars on the road in the near future, or that his meager allowance of a few billion toward research toward production of such cars is anything more than lip service to people crying about oil dependency, you have passed through the looking glass and are now incapable of sensible debate.

I'll bet my wife's ring finger and a case of Red Stripe that the billions promised will never even get to the hydrogen car/electric car program. Bush will proclaim success on fighting for alternative energy sources, sign some piece of paper in the Rose Garden called "No Hydrogen Car Left behind" and then a few million will trickle to some eggheads at MIT. When they call for the second wave of the pedged financing, those eggheads will get a "This line has been disconnected" message at the White House switchboard.
I have a partner whose spouse is a Chief Engineer in GM's electric car group. It's a big ass sham, that is powered by some incentive made in the distant past by some prior administration.

There won't be e-cars at your local dealer anytime soon. That isn't because GM wouldn't sell them if it could. Hell, GM would probably be looking at selling small cars with built in bombs for the Mid-East market if it could ensure payment post-mortum.

The reason you won't see e-cars is because the technology isn't there yet. Ed Begley, Jr. is willing to cope- you and I not so.

BUt hybrids are out today. You would do fine with one. They are smaller cars, but MUCH cheaper to operate. I know some areas let you drive in HOV lanes if you have one. I was bullshitting saying Bush has driven the move, but it certainly has happened while he was President. And in the end its not Bush deciding that hybrids are good that will result in their being on the roads. In the end it you and me deciding to buy one that will do it.

Say_hello_for_me 09-28-2004 12:10 PM

things proven today
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
BUt hybrids are out today. You would do fine with one. They are smaller cars, but MUCH cheaper to operate. I know some areas let you drive in HOV lanes if you have one. I was bullshitting saying Bush has driven the move, but it certainly has happened while he was President. And in the end its not Bush deciding that hybrids are good that will result in their being on the roads. In the end it you and me deciding to buy one that will do it.
I know this was unwelcome to many of the NIMBY "libertarians" and mostly-Rightists here two weeks ago, but this is yet another example of problems we wouldn't need to solve if subsidized and public housing were fairly distributed. First, the suburbs end as scared honkies don't have to keep running away (no, Sebby really did just want a one acre lot because he really, really likes planting an apple orchard!). Then, as people say, "fuck it, might as well live closer to work", there's less driving. Hell, mass transit gets funded, Democrats are driven out of their mobster-politician roles as the working and professional classes return, schools get re-desegregated (this time, voluntarily), Chicago turns into a shining Tokyo on a hill, and you and him don't even need to consider buying a hybrid or e-car.

Its like the unification theory. It just requires the death of the Democratic party and the end to asinine compromises between scared whites (read: just about everybody who protested here) and love-to-spend-other-people's-money liberals.

Hello

Shape Shifter 09-28-2004 12:14 PM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hitchens just got back and he was jumping all up and down on the news shows about how successful things are in Afghanistan.

Same goes for a bunch of blogs I linked to over the weekend.

But as we all well know, the Dems crave failure.
I disagree with you completely, but you may enjoy reading this article in which Hitchens accuses the Dems of craving failure.

http://www.slate.com/id/2107193/

SlaveNoMore 09-28-2004 03:43 PM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Shape Shifter
but you may enjoy reading this article in which Hitchens accuses the Dems of craving failure.

http://www.slate.com/id/2107193/
The Board died. Does this make you happy?

Tyrone Slothrop 09-28-2004 03:47 PM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The Board died. Does this make you happy?
Yes, it would be best if we not speak of Hitchens again.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-28-2004 04:08 PM

things proven today
 
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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
I know this was unwelcome to many of the NIMBY "libertarians" and mostly-Rightists here two weeks ago, but this is yet another example of problems we wouldn't need to solve if subsidized and public housing were fairly distributed. First, the suburbs end as scared honkies don't have to keep running away (no, Sebby really did just want a one acre lot because he really, really likes planting an apple orchard!). Then, as people say, "fuck it, might as well live closer to work", there's less driving. Hell, mass transit gets funded, Democrats are driven out of their mobster-politician roles as the working and professional classes return, schools get re-desegregated (this time, voluntarily), Chicago turns into a shining Tokyo on a hill, and you and him don't even need to consider buying a hybrid or e-car.

Its like the unification theory. It just requires the death of the Democratic party and the end to asinine compromises between scared whites (read: just about everybody who protested here) and love-to-spend-other-people's-money liberals.

Hello
Actually, I had always figured on moving to the burbs. I dig the space, and I like to be able to drive places and not have to get my car out of a secure lot to go anywhere, or never be able to find parking. Shit City, where I lived, gets old quickly, but it has nice burbs. Hell, I can drink vodka tonics with my wife naked in the backyard. Couldn't do that in the City... The freedom is great.

Tyrone Slothrop 09-28-2004 04:20 PM

The Speaker of the Massachusetts House just stepped down to take a lobbying job, and his replacement is on the other side of the gay-marriage issue:
  • The effort to bring a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage to voters in November 2006 suffered a major setback yesterday with departure of House Speaker Thomas M. Finneran and the elevation of Salvatore F. DiMasi, whose arrival is expected to shift the Massachusetts legislative agenda to the left on social issues such as gay rights, abortion, and stem cell research.

    A key legislative backer of the proposed amendment to ban same-sex marriage and establish civil unions yesterday all but declared defeat, saying that Finneran's exit from Beacon Hill was the final straw in an effort that already was in trouble because the state has legalized same-sex marriage with little of the uproar predicted by opponents.

    "It is pretty much over," said Senate minority leader Brian P. Lees, a Springfield Republican who cosponsored the amendment with Finneran and Senate President Robert E. Travaglini. The House and Senate, sitting in a constitutional convention, must vote a second time in the next session before it could go to the voters on the 2006 ballot.

    "In fact, there will be a question as to whether the issue will come up at all," Lees said. He said the issue has faded to the "back burners of Massachusetts politics," because few problems have surfaced with the implementation of the Supreme Judicial Court's decision to legalize gay marriage.

    "With the fact the law has been in effect for a number of months and with the change in the House leadership, it would appear any change in the constitution to ban marriage is quickly fading," Lees said.

    DiMasi supports same-sex marriage, and Finneran does not. In this year's constitutional convention, DiMasi opposed all versions of the proposed constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage and, in some cases, establish civil unions. He was among the few lawmakers who saw any amendment as a dilution of the SJC decision legalizing same-sex marriage.

Boston Globe

Shape Shifter 09-28-2004 04:34 PM

Bill Kristol must read my rants
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The Board died. Does this make you happy?
I promise to never disagree with you again.


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