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I sincerely hope that part of your petition required you to state, under oath, that "Chretien is an Asshat "

not7y(Friend to the North, my eye)S

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There are several really smart breeds. Some though are only smart at what they're bred for--labs, for example, are brilliant at retrieving, but lord are they stupid for anything else.

Watch out for the big smart ones, however--they can completely rule your household. Or at least have the brains to destroy only something valuable when you tick them off.

p(big-dog fan)j

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When you get one, you might then also want to get one of these:

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...ILLER_GOLD.jpg

Oops. That's probably not what you meant.

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My sister has had three over the years, and she's wanted to beat them on occasion. Goldens are nice pets, excellent with children, but be warned:

1. Chewing (clothes, furniture, shoes, toilet paper rolls, disposable razors) can be a big issue.

2. If you lead an active lifestyle and want to include the dog, they are fine, but if you are more sedentary, they may not be a dog for you.

3. Some of them can be as neurotic as Paigow.

spooky(just my $.02)fish

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It was a very good movie and Plummer did an excellent job in it. I just hate Russell Crowe so much that it's hard to get past him.

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It's good these days to be a citizen of the UK.

Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
 

And actually, from a liability perspective, I read Goldens I have a very high rate of biting people.

p(my dog only tried to attack all other dogs)j

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Whipped.

TM

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Congrats!:D Out of curiosity, did you go lottery, or family, or did your employer sponsor you?

BR(really curious as to whether any firms still sponsor people)S

Oh, and I liked Manhunter better, but marginally. That opening walk-through was terrifying and Brian Cox was, IMHO, a much more interesting Hannibal Lecter without all the show-boating, though in both versions they whimp out and don't let the tooth fairy mangle the hero's face (which is how the book ends). But Emily Watson was wonderful (so was Joan Allen in the same role), they stuck closer to the original ending in RD, and I understand that Ralph Finnes schlong is so HUGE that, despite his willingness to do scenes nude, they had to digitally obscure it because after the test screenings it was all anyone could remember about the movie.

The one good thing one can say about the movie Hannibal is that it was better than the book.

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Herding dogs tend to be very smart. The different belgians, the different shepards, corgis etc.

Working dogs range from smart to thick as a brick. Goldens and Labs while two of the sweetest breeds tend to be extremely dumb for everything, but as PJ says, retrieving.

Terriers can be smart, but they are aptly named. Generally not a good idea to have them around kids. They normally have tough personalities.

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Don't tell us you're getting a dual personality too.:confused:

Or is that the really bad spelling problem cropping up?:brick:

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Several thoughts:

I wanted to point out to followup on ther person who said labs were dumb for most things that werent retrieving. Labs are the most ocmmon guide dogs for the blind. I have to assume this takes some intelligence to pull off.

As for shepherds, I had an australian shepherd/doberman mix that was dumber than a box of sunny bonnies. She actually got hit by a car and died. Maybe the doberman half was the stupid half but I thought dobies were wizards.

THere is a ranking of intelligence in breeds available online. http://www.petrix.com/dogint/

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Herding dogs are great if you have kids because the dogs will tend to organize and contain them just like sheep.

I agree on terriers. Too high-strung to have around rugrats, especially ones in the 'exuberantly grab and pull everything' stage.

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That is very funny that poodle ranks #2. Growing up we had a big beautiful elegant standard poodle (that we did not clip into those godawful pom pom cuts, so she retained her dignity) who was the dumbest creature I have ever encountered. She was wonderfully friendly and good natured, but the stupidest dog ever. She was very narcissistic too. Loved to look at herself in the mirror from all angles.

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Just goes to show there are exceptions to everything. We have some corgis that are so smart it is like having a young child. Others are so dumb you wonder how they manage to even move.

I think it is the case with most animals (including humans I imagine.) I have a cat that is incredibly smart, I have watched her figure out how to get up to areas she couldn't jump to, and it was clear she was puzzling it out. The other one is pretty darn stupid. Sweet, but stupid.

Genetics definitely comes into play. Show dogs are bred for certain characteristics. Those labs paigow mentioned that are guide dogs are also bred and carefully selected for the job.

Some breeds are more bred for brains, others for looks, and others personality. If you go to a breeder for your dog, as opposed to a puppy mill or a pet store, you have a better chance of getting a sense of what your dog will be like. Just look at the parents, and the siblings, as well as any other relatives the breeder might have around.

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They're right on on border collies. Incredible dogs for kids. But they have dissed the humble bassett hound, a most intelligent, obediant and pleasant dog. And even a toddler can out run them.