flip-flop
 

When he was trying to get elected for the first time, Bush was all about respecting the integrity of the Social Security Trust Fund:

• "First, unspent surpluses in Washington, D.C. will be spent, you mark my words, you leave money sitting around the table in Washington, Washington politicians will spend it. Now, I believe there's enough money. If you lockbox the payroll taxes, there is $2 trillion to make sure the Social Security system is safe and secure-- $2 trillion. I intend to lockbox the payroll taxes and spend them only on what they're supposed to be spent on, and that's Social Security."
  
  "Governor Bush supports lockboxing $ 2.4 trillion to save and strengthen Social Security."

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Now he's pretending it doesn't exist. But Kerry was the flip-flopper.

flip-flop
 

You are personally killing this board.

RT, next year when people who owe me pay you, none of it is earmarked for Politics. If Politics is shut down, so be it. I cannot support this type posting.

flip-flop
 

Let's add this to our conservative list: Do you ignore your own prior statements and commitments?

Ah, but I forget, Hank went for the equality thing, so he's really a liberal. I'm the conservative, church going one.

flip-flop
 

this is weird. my ignore list doesn't work on a MAC!

Why Africa is fucked up.
 

This is a very interesting account, and I post it for club, who has wondered why foreign aid is so often ineffectual. No good answers, but a good story about Sierra Leone.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

So, does Bush take any responsibility for North Korea getting the bomb on his watch, or is it all Clinton's fault?

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

w/o touching your question- how is this news different than what we knew a year ago? i mean we knew they had a bomb then right?

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

He sure hasn't taken responsibilty for 9/11. But that was Clinton's fault too, right?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...us/sept_11_faa

(Spree: The Federal Aviation Administration received repeated warnings in the months prior to Sept. 11, 2001, about al-Qaida and its desire to attack airlines, according to a previously undisclosed report by the commission that investigated the terror attacks)

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

uh, "claim" you mean, right? Unless they developed the bomb in just the last four years, which is pretty rapid, I don't think Clinton escapes, given he fed them pizza for 8 years while they stayed up late designing missiles and a bomb.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

How is this different? We knew this too correct?

And Coltrane- answer this- what should have been done in response to the warnings? Factor the following into your answer- The warnings had been going on for years and the Dems controlled Congress. Also, assume that AFTER 9/11 it took almost a year to get an aviation security package throught the Democratically controlled Senate.

And as to who was "at fault" for 9/11- there was a referendum on that last November. People decided, maybe better not to have a Dem president for a little while longer.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

You have got to be kidding me.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

I'm just stirring the soup. I don't think 9/11 could have been prevented by Clinton or Bush. And I don't blame either one for 9/11. I have consistently said this. It was going to happen no matter who was president.

Also, I have never given Clinton credit for the economic boom of the '90s, and I refuse to give Bush credit for the current alleged economic recovery. People who do the former or the latter need to take Macro Econ 101 again.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

If you scroll down in the article, I think it says exactly that:

• A proposed rule to improve passenger screening and other security measures ordered by Congress in 1996 had been held up by the Office of Management and Budget and was still not in effect when the attacks occurred, according to the FAA.

The problem the FAA had is that it had no good means to communicate or act on the information it had. Are you expecting Bush to have had that inplace in the first 3 months after taking office?

Will Diplomacy in Iran Work?
 

So it likes like the Adminstration has given the EU a lot of leeway in negotiations with Iran. Will they be successful, or is the WH letting them hang?

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

I agree that 9/11 was the deciding factor in the election. Or better stated, irrational fear caused by color-coded terrorism levels etc. was the deciding factor in the election. Scare middle America shitless so they vote for you. Bravo.

Where did those levels go?

To miquote King Edward Longshanks in Braveheart:

"The trouble with middle America is that it's full of middle Americans."