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Spanky 01-10-2006 07:13 PM

The Spanky Thesis
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Translation: There is no level of aggregate debt that is too high,
I never said that. I just said that 70% is not a big problem. But clearly there is a level that will completely crowd out private investment.

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Originally posted by Gattigap
provided we have constant economic growth, a string of balanced budgets, and a multigenerational time horizon. Got it.
The focus should be on the deficits. And your comment "Provided we have constant economic growth" is the clincher. Any time we have deficits that are so high that they are crowding out economic growth we are screwing future generations. So when the economy is growing you should not run deficits because a growing economy needs fuel for its growth and deficits suck up that same fuel.

Bush II did the right thing by bringing growth back, now we need to see if he can get the budget in balance during the growth phase. If we don't we will be screwing future generations, not by saddling them with debt, but by not growing the economy as much as we could of.

The jury is still out on what will happen, and it really comes down to the Congress. And Congresses recent track record on controlling spending has not been that great. But if the economy continues to grow and the deficits are not brought down then future generations have the right to come back in time and kill us.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-10-2006 08:21 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Since the United States government has an infinted life span, and it continually grows, you don't ever have to pay off the debt. Is that really such a hard concept to grasp?
For the umpteenth time, you are not arguing that our government is not sticking future generations with debt. You are arguing that the future generations will be able to afford it.

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-10-2006 08:38 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For the umpteenth time, you are not arguing that our government is not sticking future generations with debt. You are arguing that the future generations will be able to afford it.
And exactly what have future generations ever done for us?

Hank Chinaski 01-10-2006 08:58 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For the umpteenth time, you are not arguing that our government is not sticking future generations with debt. You are arguing that the future generations will be able to afford it.
Fuck that- closer to home- do you deny that you and spanky and your toadies have ruined this board for future newbers? Ty you must realize this board is useless.

Gattigap 01-10-2006 09:01 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Fuck that- closer to home- do you deny that you and spanky and your toadies have ruined this board for future newbers? Ty you must realize this board is useless.
This is why we see you on this Judged board, isn't it?

SlaveNoMore 01-10-2006 09:20 PM

The "next big thing"
 
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Gattigap
This is why we see you on this Judged board, isn't it?
Is this where everyone is heading next?

I assumed the leading candidate was http://www.themonkeyscribe.com/msgboards/

Tyrone Slothrop 01-10-2006 09:54 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
There is no class war. The GOP is not about feeding the rich and fucking the poor. The GOP is trying, badly, to shrink govt and create a business friendly climate for econ growth.
It's not that the GOP is out to screw the poor. It's that they're out to help their (rich) supporters. Screwing the poor is the by-product of their political power, not the end.

Meanwhile, you are delusional if you think the GOP is trying to shrink government. They are not doing any such thing.

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Are the GOP whorishly hooking up contributors? Absolutely. But no more than the Dems do.
I'm sorry, but the DeLay/Abramoff/K St. Project thing goes far beyond what the Democrats ever did. If you think otherwise, you're not paying attention. The GOP has redefined political whoredom.

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The "cure" you seem to advocate....
You can stop right there, because I haven't advocated any "cure." Like any real conservative, I'm not a fan of deficit spending. I don't think we should be borrowing to fund tax cuts, especially not tax cuts for the wealthiest. Relative to where we were, it's robbing the lower and middle classes to help the rich.

Hank Chinaski 01-10-2006 10:09 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm sorry, but the DeLay/Abramoff/K St. Project thing goes far beyond what the Democrats ever did. If you think otherwise, you're not paying attention. The GOP has redefined political whoredom.
worse then selling military secrets and rocket technology to the Chinese? you really think so? btw that was rhetorical and I know you don't see why clinton selling technology was much worse- that's also why you don't see why your party is dead.

plus- isn't this on both sides?

ltl/fb 01-10-2006 10:12 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
worse then selling military secrets and rocket technology to the Chinese? you really think so? btw that was rhetorical and I know you don't see why clinton selling technology was much worse- that's also why you don't see why your party is dead.

plus- isn't this on both sides?
Oh, shut it, Hank. I was going to go with a "agree/disagree/whatever" response to Ty's three-parter, but you are just ridiculous. Quit it.

("Team-building" = alcohol; off to the gym-type place-thing)

Tyrone Slothrop 01-10-2006 10:13 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
worse then selling military secrets and rocket technology to the Chinese? you really think so? btw that was rhetorical and I know you don't see why clinton selling technology was much worse- that's also why you don't see why your party is dead.

plus- isn't this on both sides?
If Clinton had sold military secrets and rocket technology to the Chinese, that would have been bad.

Hank Chinaski 01-10-2006 10:16 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Oh, shut it, Hank. I was going to go with a "agree/disagree/whatever" response to Ty's three-parter, but you are just ridiculous. Quit it.

("Team-building" = alcohol; off to the gym-type place-thing)
Since Bush got elected these guys have accused the Reps of some incredible shit, and none of it ever sticks. This is already clearly a two-party scandal yet ty tries to leave it at the Rs door. fine. if he's right we started a war to increase our oil profits and we lied to do it, so this new scandal ain't shit anyway.


But I will folllow your wishes fringey I'm going to leave this board to its "high quality" its enjoyed these last few days. Bunch of subnormals arguing with Spanky. Enjoy!

ltl/fb 01-10-2006 10:19 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Since Bush got elected these guys have accused the Reps of some incredible shit, and none of it ever sticks. This is already clearly a two-party scandal yet ty tries to leave it at the Rs door. fine. if he's right we started a war to increase our oil profits and we lied to do it, so this new scandal ain't shit anyway.


But I will folllow your wishes fringey I'm going to leave this board to its "high quality" its enjoyed these last few days. Bunch of subnormals arguing with Spanky. Enjoy!
I didn't mean stop posting. And Spanky's weird debt/deficit thing is definitely the product of brainwashing or warped thinking or something. It's just surreally bizarre.

Hank Chinaski 01-10-2006 10:19 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If Clinton had sold military secrets and rocket technology to the Chinese, that would have been bad.
shit. i thought it was "is" where Bill had that strained definition- it was "if?"

Spanky 01-10-2006 10:21 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For the umpteenth time, you are not arguing that our government is not sticking future generations with debt. You are arguing that the future generations will be able to afford it.
No. For the umpteenth time I am not saying "future generations will be able to afford it" I am saying they will never have to pay it back. Yes we leave them with some debt but if they don't have to pay it back are we really leaving them anything?

Tyrone Slothrop 01-10-2006 10:26 PM

The so called "experts".
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Since Bush got elected these guys have accused the Reps of some incredible shit, and none of it ever sticks. This is already clearly a two-party scandal yet ty tries to leave it at the Rs door. fine. if he's right we started a war to increase our oil profits and we lied to do it, so this new scandal ain't shit anyway.
You'd think that it wouldn't be hard to make an accusation of deficit spending stick, but with you guys always leaping to the defense of Bush, darned if you're not right. He could blow an intern and lie about it under oath, and you'd find some reason to say that we're undermining the war on terrorism and by the way Clinton was worse.


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