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Driven by the cost of hurricane relief, the federal budget deficit is expected to balloon back above $400 billion for the fiscal year that ends in September, reversing the improvements of 2005, a White House official told reporters yesterday. But some budget analysts cautioned that the estimate should be considered more of a political mark to inform the coming budget debate than an economic forecast. This is the third straight year in which the White House has summoned reporters well ahead of the official budget release to project a higher-than-anticipated deficit. In the past two years, when final deficit figures have come in at record or near-record levels, White House officials have boasted that they had made progress, since the final numbers were below estimates. "This administration has a history of overestimating the deficit early in the year, lowering expectations, then taking credit when it comes in below forecast," said Stanley E. Collender, a federal budget expert at Financial Dynamics Business Communications. "It's not just a history. It's almost an obsession."

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 02:41 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Of course, not nearly as outrageous as the efforts to block windfarms in such places as the Cape Cod bay on the ground that a few birds might be killed by the rotors. How many birds are killed by the pollution created by the coal or gas-fired plant needed to supply the electricity instead?

The prius-drivers can suck it. BTW, you're not getting the gas mileage toyota advertises, so suck it again.

1. Thats a NIMBY issue. The birds are a pretext.

2. I have a neighbor who brags about how he loves his Prius and the satisfaction he gets from it. Absolute four star jackass. He knows I own a truck. I just smile and listen.

I don't see him in Winter too often... I wonder why...

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

01-13-2006 02:44 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
his Prius and the satisfaction he gets from it.

what's the satisfaction other than a holier-than-thou attitude?

surely it's not the paying over sticker satisfaction or the waiting 6 months to take delivery satisfaction.

Hank Chinaski

01-13-2006 02:46 PM

Ann Coulter left the reservation....

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter

Speaking with Pravda this week, [Russian politician Vladimir] Zhirinovsky chastised Rice for calling on Russia to "act responsibly" in supplying natural gas to Ukraine.

The fascistic pol attributed that "coarse anti-Russian statement" to Rice being "a single woman who has no children."

"If she has no man by her side at her age, he will never appear," Zhirinovsky ranted on. "Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied.

"Condoleezza Rice is a very cruel, offended woman who lacks men's attention," he added. "Such women are very rough. … They can be happy only when they are talked and written about everywhere: 'Oh, Condoleezza, what a remarkable woman, what a charming Afro-American lady! How well she can play the piano and speak Russian!'

"Complex-prone women are especially dangerous. They are like malicious mothers-in-law, women that evoke hatred and irritation with everyone. Everybody tries to part with such women as soon as possible. A mother-in-law is better than a single and childless political persona, though."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-324713c.html

Do you think Condi is a virgin?

didn't Ty say she is a lesbian?

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 02:50 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
That is almost irrelevant to her stated goal, given the quantities of oil belived to be involved.

S_A_M

I had no objection to ANWR, since, from what I read, the damage to the land would be minimal.

Then I heard getting an ANWR drilling bill passed has been Ted Stevens' reason for living for the past 25 years. Bought my opposition pretty quick.

Between his refusal to give up his $470mil pork bridge to nowhere in Alaska and his holding hearings to determine how to regulate satellite radio and cable, is there any clueless old fuck who needs to die more than Ted Stevens?

How can anyone claim the existence of karma or any sense of Right in the universe when Bill Hicks is dead of cancer at 34 and Ted Stevens alive and kicking on the senate floor at 82?

Hank Chinaski

01-13-2006 02:53 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

How can anyone claim the existence of karma or any sense of Right in the universe when Bill Hicks is dead of cancer at 34 and Ted Stevens alive and kicking on the senate floor at 82?

Hmm, on the one hand Mary Jo dies awful young and that supports your theory, but on the other hand John John bought it young which says maybe there is karma, on the other hand he drowned TWO women, so maybe there's no karma?

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 02:53 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
what's the satisfaction other than a holier-than-thou attitude?

What other satisfaction is a 4'11 Alan Ginsburg lookalike accountant going to get in life?

Hank Chinaski

01-13-2006 02:56 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
What other satisfaction is a 4'11 Alan Ginsburg lookalike accountant going to get in life?

flower likes to ride his bicycle.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 02:57 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Hmm, on the one hand Mary Jo dies awful young and that supports your theory, but on the other hand John John bought it young which says maybe there is karma, on the other hand he drowned TWO women, so maybe there's no karma?

Never thought of it that way... Ted must be conflicted about John John's death.

On one hand, he affirmed Ted's legacy as the best high pressure swimmer in the family. On the other hand, he totally pissed on Teddy's title as Most Lethal Kennedy.

I gotta bet Teddy confesses to killing that girl in the Skakel case on his deathbed. Just for family props.

Hank Chinaski

01-13-2006 03:00 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Never thought of it that way... Ted must be conflicted about John John's death.

On one hand, he affirmed Ted's legacy as the best high pressure swimmer in the family. On the other hand, he totally pissed on Teddy's title as Most Lethal Kennedy.

John Sr. lost several seamen (heh heh) when he crashed his PT boat, so most lethal isn't up for challenge- killed the most women sure (do we put marilyn on John's card or Bobby's?)

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 03:01 PM

deficit prediction gamemanship

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For Spanky, from the Washington Post:

Driven by the cost of hurricane relief, the federal budget deficit is expected to balloon back above $400 billion for the fiscal year that ends in September, reversing the improvements of 2005, a White House official told reporters yesterday. But some budget analysts cautioned that the estimate should be considered more of a political mark to inform the coming budget debate than an economic forecast. This is the third straight year in which the White House has summoned reporters well ahead of the official budget release to project a higher-than-anticipated deficit. In the past two years, when final deficit figures have come in at record or near-record levels, White House officials have boasted that they had made progress, since the final numbers were below estimates. "This administration has a history of overestimating the deficit early in the year, lowering expectations, then taking credit when it comes in below forecast," said Stanley E. Collender, a federal budget expert at Financial Dynamics Business Communications. "It's not just a history. It's almost an obsession."

And they'd have gotten away with it but for those pesky reporters...

I tip my hat now, Ty. You were right. These Bush people are evil. Twisting stats and lowering expectations to shine shitty numbers? My God. What. Has. The. Republic. Come. To.

They are behaving as if they were some damned Fortune 100 company... no, no... Fortune 500. For shame.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-13-2006 03:03 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
John Sr. lost several seamen (heh heh) when he crashed his PT boat, so most lethal isn't up for challenge- killed the most women sure (do we put marilyn on John's card or Bobby's?)

Civilian stats. Wartime is considered post-season.

Sidd Finch

01-13-2006 03:06 PM

Death Penalty system that bad?

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Originally posted by Spanky
RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- New DNA tests confirmed the guilt of a man who went to his death in Virginia's electric chair in 1992 proclaiming his innocence, the governor said Thursday.

The case had been closely watched by both sides in the death penalty debatebecause no executed convict in the United States has ever been exonerated by scientific testing.

If the death penalty system in this country is so screwed up why is this the case?

Because DNA testing is relatively new, and the time between crime and execution is very long. Thus, the cases where you can do a DNA test after execution are very rare -- and the notion that you would wait until after execution to do one is pretty strange.

Scores of people have been released from death row based on DNA evidence. These people would not have been released but for the new technology that allowed such testing. From this, I conclude that before DNA testing was available, people in a similar situation were executed.

Spanky

01-13-2006 03:07 PM

Sebastian Kennedy's Take on The End of Oil, or Fuck Environmentalists

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The thing I can't get my arms around is the call to develope alternative fuel sources yet obstinately refusing to allow the development of nuclear power.

Nuclear power is too expensive. Once you register in the cost to store its waste forever, and the cost of insuring a plant (without government subsidies) it is cost prohibitive.

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) waste, Yucca Mountain, but the enviros are trying to block that. Do they think it's better to leave the waste sitting at dozens of nuclear plants around the nation, where a) leaks would be much more likely to harm people because of proximity to population centers and b) terrorists could much more easily infiltrate to obtain some spent fuel? Outrageous.

2. The enviros that are blocking Yucca mountian are beyond stupid. Yucca mountian is by far the safest place to store radioactive waste. There is no intelligent reason not to put it there.

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