anybody remember this>?
 

Is this really smart at this stage? I would think he'd be better off keeping his big yapper shut (other than denying Dem involvement) unless he was damn sure of such an accusation. Why insert yourself into the story? The links to the Kerry campaign are tenuous at this point, but they are there.

Then again, McAuliffe has never been one to let any moment of silence go unfilled...

anybody remember this>?
 

Yes. Courtesy doesn't trump integrity. Why court that appearance of impropriety? I have a hard time believing that you'd be so accommodating if the shoe were on the other candidate's foot.

FWIW, my point at the start of this was that I think this does go on but nobody talks about it and maybe they should. Case in point: I agree with you more often than not on the board here and yet clearly we disagree about the propriety of these actions.

In other words, I was not looking to compare and contrast the misdeeds of two people whom I never wanted to hear about in the first place. Speaking of which...

You wrote that you had a problem with the "kind" of stories Vlasto produced. Now you say that it's the number. Either way, I believe one is enough. I would hope that journalistic integrity is not a "fool me once, shame on me" proposition.

anybody remember this>?
 

Be fair, now. He's leaving open the possibility it was a GOP-sympathizing freelancer as well.

Return of the Hanoi Whore
 

Swifties Ad #6

• Opens With: Footage of Jane Fonda
  Cuts To: Stills of Kerry, protesters, then Kerry testifying
  
  Cuts to: Fonda at a press conference
  
  Announcer: "Even before Jane Fonda went to Hanoi to meet with the enemy and mock America, John Kerry secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris. Though we were still at war and Americans were being held in North Vietnamese prison camps. Then, he returned and accused American troops of committing war crimes on a daily basis. Eventually Jane Fonda apologized for her activities, but John Kerry refuses to. In a time of war, can America trust a man who betrayed his country?"

anybody remember this>?
 

The most interesting theory that I've heard so far - which is nothing more than a theory, it can't be proved - is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now, who knows what the real situation is?

anybody remember this>?
 

Ty! I long for you madly!

Goodness! -- T.S.

anybody remember this>?
 

I just don't think there's an appearance of impropriety at all here, and I assume that the other side is chatting with journalists all the time. How else do you explain CNN's craven state? They're journalists, not judges. Their stock in trade is making connections.

I'm sorry to be unclear. I also have a problem with the story Mapes produced. Specifically, I understand that it was inaccurate, in that they relied on documents which now appear to have been forged.

Since this is, apparently, the first time that Mapes has been gulled, I construe it as a mis-step. Since Vlasto has an appetite for such stories, I consider his integrity suspect.

Return of the Hanoi Whore
 

This stuff influences undecided voters. Let's hope that Rathergate gets pushed to the back burner so that we can focus on the real issues, like this.

Return of the Hanoi Whore
 

As if Bush needed any more help with this election. The Chicago Tribune or Suntimes recently indicated that the Illinois Dems are actually beginning to worry about even Illinois falling as a Red state in this election, and they were glad Hillary stopped by (snicker, snicker). This in a state where there will be no Republicans in any significant office after November (and my boy the Senator is moving to McLean, VA in Fairfax Co. upon his retirement from the Senate after only one term as an excellent public servant).

Have there ever been 70 Republican Senators at one time? Its hard to believe, but the Massachusetts Democrats (and I did like Tsongas) are going to engineer the greatest defeat of the Democratic party in decades. Good job boys. OK, maybe not 70. How about 58-62 thought? When was the last time this sorta thing happened?

Hello

Sure, we all see that difference. But a month ago Bilmore would have been arguing that the former is worse than the latter.

Return of the Hanoi Whore
 

The swifties were in Paris, too? I think they're losing focus.

not the ethics committee, but we'll take it
 

32 indictments came down today in the investigation of corporate money headed to Republican candidates for office in the great State of Texas. Three of the 32 were top aides in the Delay camp, and many of the others were from companies that donated to the Texans for a Republican Majority. One can only hope that one or more of the indictees rolls over on Delay.

There was a lot of happy dancing in my household tonight.

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/...dictments.html

Republican Majority officials indicted in fund-raising investigation
Attorney says seven companies, three individuals named
Advertisement
By Laylan Copelin

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Tuesday, September 21, 2004

A Travis County grand jury on Tuesday indicted three top lieutenants of U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay in connection with corporate money raised during the 2002 elections.

Indicted on one count of money laundering were John Colyandro, the executive director of Texans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee, and Jim Ellis, a former DeLay staff member now head of Americans for a Republican Majority, DeLay's national fund-raising political action committee.

Islam is a religion that scares Reuters
 

http://www.honestreporting.com/artic...Terrorists.asp

Reuters official admits the reason it doesn't call terrorists terrorists is that it is afraid to do so, incredible. Do you think the fear ever influences the "facts?"

The National Post in Toronto and The Calgary Herald, which both use Reuters dispatches -[decided] to substitute the word "terrorist" in articles for terms like "insurgents" and "rebels."

"Our editorial policy is that we don't use emotive words when labeling someone," said David A. Schlesinger, Reuters' global managing editor. "Any paper can change copy and do whatever they want. But if a paper wants to change our copy that way, we would be more comfortable if they remove the byline."

Mr. Schlesinger said he was concerned that changes like those made at CanWest could lead to "confusion" about what Reuters is reporting and possibly endanger its reporters in volatile areas or situations.

"My goal is to protect our reporters and protect our editorial integrity," he said.

According to Mr. Schlesinger, members of Reuters' sales staff in Canada have asked CanWest to remove writers' names to conform to its guidelines for the use of "terrorist." Reuters has also asked that CanWest add its name to that of Reuters as the source of revised articles and to display that information only at the end of the articles. Alternatively, Reuters suggests that its name not be used at all.

not the ethics committee, but we'll take it
 

If they boil that ugly wart of a man in steaming Clorox, it will be too mild a penalty. No offense to Texas, but what cesspool do you all grow these people in? We have our share of scumbags up in the Mid Atlantic - lord knows PA/Philly is loaded up with them - but we never seem to create anything on par with the likes of Delay, Rove, et al. Its like these fuckers all snort Lee Atwater's ashes every morning and suck down a shotglass of bull testoserone for lunch. Delay all but goosesteps around the Capitol.

BUT, I must hand it to Tom. Graduating from managing pest controllers to managing the House is a hell of a career jump, so he can't be a fraction as dumb as he looks and sounds. But then again, managing imbeciles like Hastert probably isn't brain surgery. I mean, really... the guy's previous experience was being a fucking wrestling coach. He makes Truman look like a Mensa member. I guess its par for the course... garbage runs, garbage gets elected. If you've half a brain, you can probably get a lot further in the House than most folks would like to admit.

PS: I am not calling out solely GOP Texans as "folks deserving to be hit with a Louisville Slugger". As I recall, the Dems down your way have a rich history of below the belt punches dating back to LBJ's early House campaign where he accused his opponent of fucking pigs. But I gotta admit... I love that accusation. If only Kitty kelly had found some domestic farm animal beastiality in the Bush closet... "And then Jeb told his daughter, 'Listen, the camera's rolling... you either get in front of Sparky and do the scene or you don't get the Xanax! I've only got 20 minutes to get this thing right. Poppy wants his gin and tonic on the veranda, and if I don't make it right, I'll get the belt. You don't want dad to get the belt, do you?" The idea of Jeb getting belted by 41 at their present ages just nauseated me... I must now go...

Coming soon to a suburb near you?
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/22/ny...agewanted=2&hp

Section 8 vouchers in the NYC area will be for lower values this year, because the value is now calculated based on a number that includes surrounding suburbs.

Now, if somebody points out that some of the suburbs don't have any section 8, maybe lights will start going off. OTOH, maybe the light that goes off will be to only include the rents of those suburbs that do have section 8. Something tells me, including only the suburbs that have section would probably bring the average down even further for a place like NYC (as compared to including all suburbs).

Boy, this could break either way at any time.

Hello

I think you'll enjoy this Hank:

I was having a conversation with my neighbor last night. Not my next door neighbor, but the one a couple of doors down, the one with the teenage son.

"Balt," he said to me, "I'm just at the end of my rope here.

"Last year George [that's his son] asked Mabelle* and I if he could start staying out late, try to hang out with Britney.* Mabelle and I talked it over and talked it over, and then decided to let him stay out to midnight. He could go anywhere, we told him, as long as he was home by midnight.

"Never really liked Britney too much, and I thought George hanging out with her was a bad idea, but we told him he could go out, and we decided we had to trust him.

"Of course he got her knocked up.

"At first I just yelled at him about how I can't believe he did it, and how I would have not done the same thing, but that doesn't really solve the problem.

"Now I had a conversation with him today about planning for the future, about how he's going to take care of the baby. He just laughed and called me a hypocrite.

"Balt, what do I do?"

"You're problem," I said, "is that you're a flip-flopper. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Flip-flop. Flip! Flop!

"First you say you and Mabelle trusted him, and told him he could use his own judgement. Now you say you would not have done the same thing! Flip-flop! And you say you never really liked Britney, but now you want your son to stay with her and take care of the baby! Flip-flop! And you say you wouldn't have knocked Britney up, how then can you have a plan for what to do now!?! Flip-flop! Flip-Flop! No wonder he hates you."

I think he would have punched me right then, if George's friend Dick hadn't pulled up in his Hummer just then a flipped my neighbor the bird. Dick's the one who introduced George to Britney, by the way.

*Not her real name, but it's fun, isn't it?

God vs. Bush
 

http://www.users.qwest.net/~bazerko/GODvsBUSH.gif

eta: Please note that all of the text on this page above this here little note is from the guy who made the graphic, not me. -- T.S.

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 

Mindful of the need for a multi-pronged campaign strategy, the "Vote for Kerry and We'll Kill this Dog" message is being supplemented below the radar with lovely social issues, thanks to the RNC:

Link to copy of GOP mailer.

Apparently, this is being used in Arkansas and several other states. Despite the RNC return address, Ed Gillespie expresses bafflement.

God vs. Bush
 

This idiocy reminds me of Fatfuck's comments on the day after 9/11

Liberals want to ban your Bible.
 

Western Michigan is seriously God's country. I was about 15 miles west of Ann Arbor last weekend, that is 15 miles outside Not God country, And saw a billboard on I-94 that basically said Jesus would vote for Bush/Cheney.

God vs. Bush
 

You can't quote the man's 9/12/01 statement w/o noting he says the cause was we bailed out of the Kyoto agreement. Ty and them paid $9 to hear what else he had to say.

Conservatives of the Board
 

Send me your PO Boxes! In the sprit of reconciliation, I come bearing gifts...

.... of Saint Clinton.

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Yes, Slave, you can drink from the never-empty coffee cup of Saint Clinton, and rejoice in the warmth of the declining budget deficits achieved during his tenure!
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Hank! While doodling your posts out during those 3am drinking sessions at the gay bar, you can use St. Clinton's image in this journal to inspire you!
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NotMe can draw inspiration for her vitriolic posts through pounding on this mousepad!
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Sunny, I don't know if your boyfriend is a conservative or not, but here's his lunchbox!
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Yes, things will be better someday, and with Saint Clinton keepsakes, you too can keep hope alive!

ETfix shamfully incorrect poster reference

Women to DNC: You ain't da boss of me no more
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/22/po...2women.html?hp

I love how the NYT phrases this. Women, who traditionally are owned along with blacks by the DNC, are riding to the freedom of the RNC. The DNC is begging them to stay, arguing that life on the democratic plantation is beeyouteeful.

Hello

From the land of milk and Sebby
 

We now have the Philly Inquirer, which - unlike our own Mr. Duke - demands that Dan must go!!!

Oh, and do we have any GAs in Hartford?

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

Why does it surprise people that public school teachers who can afford it might send their kids to private school? Public school teachers presumably know the problems of public schools better than anyone, and while they may be dedicated to working against those problems (yes, there are good public school teachers out there), that doesn't mean that they don't want to provide the best and safest education for their kids. Why the horror over this?

From the land of milk and Sebby
 

Be careful when you unleash that sort of reasoning -- you never know where it might take you:

From the land of milk and Sebby
 

I'm pretty sure that Stephen Colbert made the exact same point last night on the Daily Show.

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

2. Further, why are the sins of the union(s) imputed onto every member? A lot of these people know exactly who their unions protect, and don't agree with the protection.

If Club doesn't mind, I think his post should be titled: "God I hate the fucking teachers unions!"

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

I didn't realize the unions were holding a gun to their members heads to force them to send their kids to private schools.

Seriously, the unions are a red herring. The same arguments could be made for owning a Honda while working at a GM plant, but I'd hate to be a Honda dealer in Flint, MI.

Of course, the car you drive is certainly an issue of lesser importance than the education your kid receives.

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

I think the points been made, but are you saying that lawyers earning hundreds of thousands a year but sending their kid to public school while bitching about a $5,000 a year property tax bill have a right to complain when a teacher making $50,000 a year decides to spend $20,000 of it on education for their kid?

What, Club, people have a right to choose to do with their money whatever you tell them to do?

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

Pass some of that stuff over here, Hello.

Thanks, man.

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

You think it strange that I'm suggesting not all union members agree 100% with their unions?

Do you see why people make fun of you?

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying, I doubt that Club hates all teachers (which was the title of his post). Rather, I bet Club hates the teachers union.

Ya see, we who are Right believe that Teachers Unions are a big part of the problem. You know, the whole ATLA/NEA kickback scheme that funds democratic candidates (warning: that last sentence is slightly over the top).

Its not to say that Teachers Unions are the whole problem with failing public schools. Nooo, it ain't even close to that. Hell, I'd put my Section 8 concentration at least as high on the list as the Teachers Unions for some schools.

But, insofar as Clubby should really hate the teachers unions (as do all Right people), I'm just saying, please try not to make it sound as if they are completely representative of view adopted wholesale by each and every one of their members.

Y'all must be reading something into it to disagree with that.

Hello

From the land of milk and Sebby
 

Although I find every one of Kos's idiotic assertions false:

It's nice to see I agree 110% with his conclusions

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

I find this a very confusing issue. While I certainly agree that people should have the freedom to send their kids to private schools, I still think the statistics club cites are a shame. It shows a lack of belief in the product one is producing. But it also compounds the problems in the public schools. Teachers kids tend to be smarter and more stable. Taking these kids out of the public school environment destablizes the schools even more.

I don't think this requires some sort of mandate against teachers sending their kids to private school, but do think it's a regretable phenomena.

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

It's more than a lack of belief in the quality; it probably reflects a pretty good assessment of the quality.

That said, I wonder whether there is to some degree conflation of two phenomena. We all know teachers are underpaid--so how do they afford private schools? Perhaps a number of teachers are either independently wealthy or married to high-income spouses. Either would skew the data from the average american, just as would looking at the percentage of, e.g., fortune 500 CEOs whose kids go to private school, although in that case we wouldn't make much of a conclusion other than "duh--rich people go to private schools".

Then again, maybe it's the quality (and it's worse than buying Honda if working for GM, unless GM still gives free cars to its employees).

I Hate the Fucking Teachers
 

Um... Yeah. I just don't see where you get to that from the quote Club posted. The choice to send one's kid to private school is personal. I interpreted Club's post to be a rant against the hypocracy of teaching in public schools but not believing in them enough to send your own kids there. You took it as a screed against the teachers' unions. I suppose we will have to wait for him to correct one or both of us.

It may be that 1 in 4 teachers in DC sends their kid to a private school because they think the teachers unions have screwed up the schools, but I doubt the level of abstraction is there: the DC schools suck, and I wouldn't send my kids there either; nevermind the cause.