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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-11-2006 02:30 PM

NSA
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think I will inform on people I don't like so that the police can pick them up in secret and ship them off to, uh, whatever the American equivalent of Siberia is. We need some corrective labor camps here for people like that reporter who clearly are on the side of the terrorists. Anyway, our dear Druzhkov has said that despite the fact that "document[ing] who talks to whom* in personal and business calls, whether local or long distance, by tracking which numbers are called," is not "mining or trolling through the personal lives of innocent Americans."

*tens of millions of whos and whoms

ETA is the language I italicized a Rush quote?
You see, here is the problem. If you talk to the unAmerican free-speech loving reporter in New York, the American Siberia is Nebraska.

If you talk to the Flag Waving Xenophobic Nebraskan, his view of the American Siberia is that wasteland called New York City.

So, you see, whereever they are, they're already there.

ltl/fb 05-11-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You see, here is the problem. If you talk to the unAmerican free-speech loving reporter in New York, the American Siberia is Nebraska.

If you talk to the Flag Waving Xenophobic Nebraskan, his view of the American Siberia is that wasteland called New York City.

So, you see, whereever they are, they're already there.
I think the US equivalent of Siberia is the offshore prisons/torture centers we have.

ETA where's sunnybunny? I think she'd like a vacation in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Tajikistan or whatever.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-11-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
whatever the American equivalent of Siberia is.
the only one we know of is in Guantanamo bay.

SlaveNoMore 05-11-2006 03:20 PM

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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I watched an old episode of Miami Vice a couple of weeks ago. (they're being rerun on TVLand). The basic plot was that some IRA guy was trying to buy arms in Miami, and someone from Scotland Yard was pursuing him with the help of Crockett and Tubbs.

At some point, the Yard guy says "why don't we just go bring him in--we know he's bad" And Crockett responds "that's not the way we do things in America". And the Yard guy responds back "well, see how America feels when women and children are getting blown up on the streets and in shopping malls."

Anyway, I digress. But it was prescient in 1986.
F Nash Bridges.

God Save the Queen.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-11-2006 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb

ETA where's sunnybunny? I think she'd like a vacation in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Tajikistan or whatever.
From what I hear, providing a rest for Less's laptop while he posts at 3 am from Bratislava.

ltl/fb 05-11-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
From what I hear, providing a rest for Less's laptop while he posts at 3 am from Bratislava.
I didn't think her ass was big enough.

futbol fan 05-11-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
F Nash Bridges.

God Save the Queen.
Typical TV bullshit. Everyone knows that in 1986 the guns were coming from Libya. And the "IRA guy" was probably just some poor innocent bastard on his way to Orlando on a package tour. Free the Miami One!

Tyrone Slothrop 05-11-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I watched an old episode of Miami Vice a couple of weeks ago. (they're being rerun on TVLand). The basic plot was that some IRA guy was trying to buy arms in Miami, and someone from Scotland Yard was pursuing him with the help of Crockett and Tubbs.

At some point, the Yard guy says "why don't we just go bring him in--we know he's bad" And Crockett responds "that's not the way we do things in America". And the Yard guy responds back "well, see how America feels when women and children are getting blown up on the streets and in shopping malls."

Anyway, I digress. But it was prescient in 1986.
Plus, they had that whole pastel thing going.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-12-2006 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
God Save the Queen.
Evidently you, like a majority of Americans, are happy to be her bitch.

Replaced_Texan 05-12-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Evidently you, like a majority of Americans, are happy to be her bitch.
Speaking of US v. UK investigative methodology, there was an interesting story on NPR this morning about DNA testing. In the UK, if there's a very close, but not exact match to DNA evidence, the investigators start looking at close family members of the person who matched. Apparently, this has led to some arrests and convictions.

In the US, the practice hasnt' become particularly widespread, because we're uncomfortable about putting people who've never done anything wrong under surveillance simply because their relative at some point submitted evidence for DNA testing.

Part of the issue is that a lot of databases are out there, especially in light of 9/11 and Katrina, and part of it is that investigators in crime labs in the US have been known to skew test toward particular results that match police theories on the case. I'm so proud to be a Houstonian...

sebastian_dangerfield 05-12-2006 01:48 PM

Show me the money
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Please.

I save my drinking for Antonin "Vaffanculo!" Scalia and Dick "Go fuck yourself" Cheney.
Scalia's a low grade whore. I don't like any judicial ideologues, left or right. Those pricks are supposed to parse the law, not bend over for their constituency. I am pragmatic, and realize no judge is above being an ideologue some of the time, but people like Scalia and Ruth Bader seem to think being whores is fine and dandy. I say fuck them both with cattle prods.... Maybe that's a bit rough... maybe not.

I'd drink with Dick because Dick is no whore. A lying, chickenshit draft dodging, drunk driving elitist prick, yes. But we are talking drinking, and we are talking me, and his resume pretty much ensures a damned fun evening, even if I don't buy his politics. Decent people - decent hicks like Dick and I - could put politics aside when discussing that joy of being alive, stupid and lucky that you only understand on the highway, on a head full of malt liquor, driving a 1983 Suburban with all the windows open and "You Don't Love/Soul Serenade" pounding out of the stereo.

I would not shoot anything with Dick...

Hank Chinaski 05-12-2006 01:50 PM

Show me the money
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Scalia's a low grade whore. I don't like any judicial ideologues, left or right. Those pricks are supposed to parse the law, not bend over for their constituency. I am pragmatic, and realize no judge is above being an ideologue some of the time, but people like Scalia and Ruth Bader seem to think being whores is fine and dandy. I say fuck them both with cattle prods.... Maybe that's a bit rough... maybe not.

I'd drink with Dick because Dick is no whore. A lying, chickenshit draft dodging, drunk driving elitist prick, yes. But we are talking drinking, and we are talking me, and his resume pretty much ensures a damned fun evening, even if I don't buy his politics. Decent people - decent hicks like Dick and I - could put politics aside when discussing that joy of being alive, stupid and lucky that you only understand on the highway, on a head full of malt liquor, driving a 1983 Suburban with all the windows open and "You Don't Love/Soul Serenade" pounding out of the stereo.

I would not shoot anything with Dick...
it's ironic that your dick goes off accidentally also?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-12-2006 10:12 PM

How To Kill The Board Dept.
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
it's ironic that your dick goes off accidentally also?

taxwonk 05-15-2006 10:37 AM

Announcement
 
I finally got around to seeing Hotel Rwanda this weekend.

I hate all people everywhere.

ltl/fb 05-15-2006 01:44 PM

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I finally got around to seeing Hotel Rwanda this weekend.

I hate all people everywhere.
Here -- focus on Amuricuns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060515/...dit_counseling

taxwonk 05-15-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Here -- focus on Amuricuns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060515/...dit_counseling
When I first started out as a lawyer, I had a client that had been bled dry by those fuckers. I've wondered for years how they keep out of jail. I guess it's the same old story. If you're poor, you have no voice.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-15-2006 04:18 PM

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When I first started out as a lawyer, I had a client that had been bled dry by those fuckers. I've wondered for years how they keep out of jail. I guess it's the same old story. If you're poor, you have no voice.
The "settlement structuring" companies who lend against future lawsuit recoveries make these guys look like angels.

taxwonk 05-15-2006 04:57 PM

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The "settlement structuring" companies who lend against future lawsuit recoveries make these guys look like angels.
Which brings me back to my original point. I hate everyone everywhere.

i was penske 05-15-2006 06:42 PM

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Gattigap 05-15-2006 07:01 PM

Tom Tomorrow
 
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/200...tomo/story.jpg

Stone Pony 05-15-2006 10:12 PM

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Replaced_Texan 05-16-2006 01:49 PM

There's a series of articles in today's Washington Post on teen sex, comparing the US to Europe.

I think the reasonable conclusion that one can draw is that people who are fundamentally opposed to sex shouldn't be involved in telling others how to do it.

One of the articles had some statistics that made me cringe.
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U.S. and Western European teens start sexual activity at about the same age--the median age for first intercourse is 16 in Sweden, 17 in Switzerland, Germany and the United States, and 18 in France.

Chief of the Multidisciplinary Unit for Adolescent Health at the University of Lausanne Hospital in Switzerland, Pierre-Andre Michaud says Swiss teens differ from their U.S. counterparts principally in that they are more likely to use contraceptives.

Almost half (47 percent) of all U.S. high school students report having had sexual intercourse, according to a 2003 survey conducted for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; for high school seniors, the figure is 62 percent. In Sweden approximately 80 percent of teens have had sex by age 20, according to Tanja Tydén, professor in the Department of Public Health and Caring Services at Uppsala University in Sweden.

U.S. teens are more likely to have sexual intercourse before age 15 and to become pregnant than teens in England and Wales, France and Sweden, according to a 2000 report from the Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit group that studies sexual health. The study also found that Western European teens are likelier to be in a committed relationship when they have sex.

U.S. teens also have a higher rate of infection and STDs -- due to lower condom use, according to the report.

The U.S. teen pregnancy rate (84 out of every 1,000 girls age 15 to 19 become pregnant each year) is higher than that that of Denmark (23), Finland (21), Germany (16) and Sweden (25), found a 2000 report in Family Planning Perspectives. (Differences in birth rates are also striking: Roughly six out of every 1,000 teen girls have babies every year in Switzerland, eight per 1,000 in Sweden, 10 per 1,000 in France, and 28 per 1,000 in England and Wales, according to the report, compared to about 54 per 1,000 in the United States. The U.S. abortion rate (then 29 per 1,000) was higher than that in Sweden (17), France (10), Finland (10) and the Netherlands (4), found the report.

According to the Guttmacher Institute, a third of all U.S. girls become pregnant before they turn 20; 80 percent of them are unmarried.

In the U.S., rates of teen sex, pregnancy, abortion and birth have all declined since 1991, as a result, most experts agree, of a combination of teens' postponing sex and increased contraception. But the rates are still higher than those in virtually all Western European countries.
Also, Virginity pledges are moronic.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-16-2006 04:34 PM

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I think the reasonable conclusion that one can draw is that people who are fundamentally opposed to sex shouldn't be involved in telling others how to do it.
What's amazing to me that a group that believes that preaching abstinence is the best approach can continue to make its assertions in the face of extensive evidence that the message does not work, and, in fact, may be counterproductive.

Then again, we figured we could eliminate alcoholism by making it illegal, so what does 80 years of learning do for us?

sebastian_dangerfield 05-16-2006 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What's amazing to me that a group that believes that preaching abstinence is the best approach can continue to make its assertions in the face of extensive evidence that the message does not work, and, in fact, may be counterproductive.

Then again, we figured we could eliminate alcoholism by making it illegal, so what does 80 years of learning do for us?
Thats amazing to you? They believe the Bible is literal truth. That ain't like believing in the Loch Ness Monster or thinking Jim Morrison is having burgers with Jimmy Hoffa in Antigua. Thats some seriously fucked up shit. Read that thing sometime. You buy that thing as WORD and you is one f-ed up motherfucker. I'm surprised those screwheads can even figure out how to reproduce. Guess that show's Mother Nature is a tolerant creator - she makes it easy enough that even those who hate her can manage to reprdocuce.

I wonder how much guilt a King Screwhead like James Dobson feels after he mastrubates in his hotel bathroom in a moment of weakness.

You think he calls Gary Bauer and confesses?

"Garaay, I juuuzz broke down. I split muh seed upon the hand towels in the Four Seasons. It was the decadence of the brass fixtures that got me. I am a sodomite."

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-16-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Jim Morrison is having burgers with Jimmy Hoffa in Antigua.
Don't be rEdiculous. Morrison is now a cowboy in southern Oregon.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-16-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Don't be rEdiculous. Morrison is now a cowboy in southern Oregon.
Maybe the Bible isn't so insane.

Hank Chinaski 05-17-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Maybe the Bible isn't so insane.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...s/Meddling.jpg

Gattigap 05-17-2006 11:05 AM

Second Acts in American Life
 
Yes, there are.

From Gawker:
  • Where’s a reporter with no credibility and a reputation for being an administration mouthpiece to go once she’s been drummed out of her former place of employ for practicing some of the most sloppy, credulous, bordering-on-disingenuous journalism that said employer has even seen, even considering the fact that it once also employed Jayson Blair? Naturally, The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page, a magical world where taxes cause cancer, the ghost of Vince Foster has risen from the grave to wreak havoc on President Bush’s poll numbers, and Judith Miller can be considered a legitimate journalist. Judy shows up today with the first of a two-parter on Libya’s nuclear ambitions. If you think that maybe the last topic Judy should be reporting on is W.M.D. then you have no idea what passes for fact in the Rightwing Funny Farm that is the Editorial Page.

Funny, yes, but honestly, what would we EXPECT Judith to write about? The woman specializes in the drums of war. Fortunately, WSJ has several extra sets left over from the 60s, so they've set Judith up in the corner with brand new mallets.

Gattigap

Hank Chinaski 05-17-2006 11:08 AM

Second Acts in American Life
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Yes, there are.

From Gawker:
  • Where’s a reporter with no credibility and a reputation for being an administration mouthpiece to go once she’s been drummed out of her former place of employ for practicing some of the most sloppy, credulous, bordering-on-disingenuous journalism that said employer has even seen, even considering the fact that it once also employed Jayson Blair? Naturally, The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page, a magical world where taxes cause cancer, the ghost of Vince Foster has risen from the grave to wreak havoc on President Bush’s poll numbers, and Judith Miller can be considered a legitimate journalist. Judy shows up today with the first of a two-parter on Libya’s nuclear ambitions. If you think that maybe the last topic Judy should be reporting on is W.M.D. then you have no idea what passes for fact in the Rightwing Funny Farm that is the Editorial Page.

Funny, yes, but honestly, what would we EXPECT Judith to write about? The woman specializes in the drums of war. Fortunately, WSJ has several extra sets left over from the 60s, so they've set Judith up in the corner with brand new mallets.

Gattigap
you're like the PB's own nfh.

Gattigap 05-17-2006 11:13 AM

Second Acts in American Life
 
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you're like the PB's own nfh.
See, you mean this as an insult, but given your embarrasing longing for Penske's place on this board for photoshopped images and dime-store partisanship, I know that with this comment you're simply trying to reach out for the familiar. We love you too, Hankie.

futbol fan 05-17-2006 12:31 PM

Second Acts in American Life
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Yes, there are.

From Gawker:
  • Where’s a reporter with no credibility and a reputation for being an administration mouthpiece to go once she’s been drummed out of her former place of employ for practicing some of the most sloppy, credulous, bordering-on-disingenuous journalism that said employer has even seen, even considering the fact that it once also employed Jayson Blair? Naturally, The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page, a magical world where taxes cause cancer, the ghost of Vince Foster has risen from the grave to wreak havoc on President Bush’s poll numbers, and Judith Miller can be considered a legitimate journalist. Judy shows up today with the first of a two-parter on Libya’s nuclear ambitions. If you think that maybe the last topic Judy should be reporting on is W.M.D. then you have no idea what passes for fact in the Rightwing Funny Farm that is the Editorial Page.

Funny, yes, but honestly, what would we EXPECT Judith to write about? The woman specializes in the drums of war. Fortunately, WSJ has several extra sets left over from the 60s, so they've set Judith up in the corner with brand new mallets.

Gattigap
Do you think anyone returns her phone calls these days? Is this maybe why she's running with the WMD angle on a nation we just restored diplomatic relations with?

Sexual Harassment Panda 05-17-2006 01:49 PM

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http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...s/Meddling.jpg
Absolutely right. He should be kicking back and assaulting people on golf courses, like Fore!-d. Or maybe walking along a beach by himself with a metal detector, mumbling, like Nixon. Shame on him - monitoring elections, funding efforts to eradicate third-world diseases - who the hell does he think he is?

ltl/fb 05-17-2006 04:21 PM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/05/D8HDQCV80.html
Dow back down.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/17/mark...ex.htm?cnn=yes

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2006 12:07 AM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Dow back down.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/17/mark...ex.htm?cnn=yes
I don't get "consumer confidence." the economy is bad because we're not confident that the economy will be good?

taxwonk 05-18-2006 10:45 AM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't get "consumer confidence." the economy is bad because we're not confident that the economy will be good?
Consumers who aren't confident that the economy will stay strong don't buy big durables, cars, and houses. Thirty years ago, a drop in those types of purchases would have a greater impact on the economy. Consumer confidence isn't as good a predictor in our service economy. No matter how many people are unemployed or not getting big raises, we seem to consume more than enough Big Macs and video games.

spookyfish 05-18-2006 11:31 AM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Consumers who aren't confident that the economy will stay strong don't buy big durables, cars, and houses. Thirty years ago, a drop in those types of purchases would have a greater impact on the economy. Consumer confidence isn't as good a predictor in our service economy. No matter how many people are unemployed or not getting big raises, we seem to consume more than enough Big Macs and video games.
And now that McDonalds takes credit cards, anything goes, baby!

Southern Patriot 05-18-2006 12:21 PM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't get "consumer confidence." the economy is bad because we're not confident that the economy will be good?
Son, it's like this. If I think I'm going to have a bumper crop coming, well, I'm happy to let the boys in the fields have themselves three good meals. If the crops really good, well, I'll give them an extra shirt to wear this year. So the yankee farmers and millers who send hominy and cloth down here do OK. As soon as it looks like the cotton's not coming, well, I cut them back to two meals no new shirts, so we buy a lot less hominy and only the good cloth from England that we wear ourselves. So the yankees suffer.

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2006 12:45 PM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Son, it's like this. If I think I'm going to have a bumper crop coming, well, I'm happy to let the boys in the fields have themselves three good meals. If the crops really good, well, I'll give them an extra shirt to wear this year. So the yankee farmers and millers who send hominy and cloth down here do OK. As soon as it looks like the cotton's not coming, well, I cut them back to two meals no new shirts, so we buy a lot less hominy and only the good cloth from England that we wear ourselves. So the yankees suffer.
Not exactly. the cotton could be a bad crop even if you were confident.

The economy is good unless we think it won't be. It just seems like if we had better mental discipline, and were always "glass is half full", then it always would be.

Southern Patriot 05-18-2006 12:51 PM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Not exactly. the cotton could be a bad crop even if you were confident.

The economy is good unless we think it won't be. It just seems like if we had better mental discipline, and were always "glass is half full", then it always would be.
Boy, if it's going to be a good harvest, I need those boys in the field strong, and that's why I give them the extra hominy. I've got to make some guess, otherwise I'd just be feeding them three square of corn all the time.

But you're right, the extra shirts are pure discretionary spending. No shirts until the cotton is in. Tell the Yankees to lay off some workers.

futbol fan 05-18-2006 12:58 PM

Dow Hits 6 Year High
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Not exactly. the cotton could be a bad crop even if you were confident.

The economy is good unless we think it won't be. It just seems like if we had better mental discipline, and were always "glass is half full", then it always would be.
I know what you mean. I have always believed that if my mental discipline had been better I really would have been able to fly after I took all that acid and jumped off the roof of the garage. It was my last minute doubts that sabotaged me.

Isn't the "consumer confidence" number a measure of how likely it is Americans will continue to spend money they don't have? What's the national savings rate these days? Negative two percent or something? My understanding of what's killing the Dow, et al, this week is the fear that unexpectedly high inflation numbers will lead the Fed to raise interest rates again. Which means it will be harder for consumers to borrow money to spend on cheeseburgers, SUVs and videogames. I have vowed not to look at my 401k balances until after the 30th of the month.


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