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Now that Republicans are in the minority, it's not called that anymore. Instead, the stories talk about how the Democrats have failed to get the 60 votes they need to overcome procedural requirements, and bullshit like that. You wouldn't even know that the GOP is on a record pace with the filibusters.

eta: Refreshingly, this lack of reporting means that your indignation over filibusters has survived the shift in control of Congress. I look forward to your continued majoritarian outrage as the Republicans continue to frustrate the will of the people.

SlaveNoMore

10-03-2007 06:03 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Now that Republicans are in the minority, it's not called that anymore. Instead, the stories talk about how the Democrats have failed to get the 60 votes they need to overcome procedural requirements, and bullshit like that. You wouldn't even know that the GOP is on a record pace with the filibusters.

eta: Refreshingly, this lack of reporting means that your indignation over filibusters has survived the shift in control of Congress. I look forward to your continued majoritarian outrage as the Republicans continue to frustrate the will of the people.

Actually, I still find the inability of anything to actually make it to an 'up or down' vote to be national disgrace. Unlike you and your ilk, I don't change my positions depending on who is saying it.

That said, the only thing that this lack of cloture has done is that it has given cover to a bunch of idiot Dems who huff and puff over issues, knowing fully well they'll never half to actually vote on them and answer to the folks back home.

Tyrone Slothrop

10-03-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, I still find the inability of anything to actually make it to an 'up or down' vote to be national disgrace. Unlike you and your ilk, I don't change my positions depending on who is saying it.

That said, the only thing that this lack of cloture has done is that it has given cover to a bunch of idiot Dems who huff and puff over issues, knowing fully well they'll never half to actually vote on them and answer to the folks back home.

Clearly I read too much into the fact that I don't see you complaining about Republican filibusters. My bad. Good job getting a slam on idiot Dems in there. There are, of course, no other idiot politicians.

SlaveNoMore

10-03-2007 07:31 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Clearly I read too much into the fact that I don't see you complaining about Republican filibusters. My bad. Good job getting a slam on idiot Dems in there. There are, of course, no other idiot politicians.

Chafee and Snowe are idiots.

Happy?

Hank Chinaski

10-03-2007 08:55 PM

the war

anyone else watch this? I can't imagine anyone who saw it questioning dropping the atomic bomb. agree?

I can't imagine anyone who saw it saying the Iraq war is a mess*?

* I distinguish from people saying it was unnecessary, but that is a different question, and not where most of the public unhappiness lies.

LessinSF

10-03-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Excellent news, Slave: The military has found a way to both limit the media's First Amendment rights and lift the ratio of positive news reported from Iraq:

U.S. authorities confiscated an AP Television News videotape that contained scenes of the wounded being evacuated [after the car bomb attack today in Baghdad on the Polish ambassador]. U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl told the AP the government of Iraq had made it illegal to photograph or videotape the aftermath of bombings or other attacks.

link

My favorite news today was that the Shiites who condemned the Senate resolution on partition also don't want us to keep working with the Sunnis - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...sn=001&sc=1000 .They are intractable, and no amount of years and men will change it.

sebastian_dangerfield

10-03-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Iraq has amendments to its constituion already?

Pinned on, by blindfolded children.

Tyrone Slothrop

10-03-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Chafee and Snowe are idiots.

Happy?

Don't you mean Chafee and Lenin? And Chafee's not a Republican anymore, IIRC.

sebastian_dangerfield

10-03-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Republicans continue to frustrate the will of the people.

You mean "of special interests." The will of the people is more easy credit, cheaper luxury cars and a closer Sam's Club. Jesus Fucking Christ, if either party actually starts moving toward affecting the will of the people, I have this advice - move abroad.

SlaveNoMore

10-04-2007 02:00 AM

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Tyrone Slothrop
And Chafee's not a Republican anymore, IIRC.

QED

Gattigap

10-04-2007 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Chafee and Snowe are idiots.

Happy?

Aw, c'mon, Slave. Let's add Sessions to the list. Sure, he's a Republican, and a staunch Bush supporter at that, but I think we can all mainly agree that Sessions' particular brand of idiocy shines brightly enough to be recognized on both sides of the aisle.

Spanky

10-04-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Now that Republicans are in the minority, it's not called that anymore. Instead, the stories talk about how the Democrats have failed to get the 60 votes they need to overcome procedural requirements, and bullshit like that. You wouldn't even know that the GOP is on a record pace with the filibusters.

As I have said in the past and will continue to say in the future the "mainstream" media has a strong liberal bias. It doesn't bother me when it comes to social issues but it really bothers me when it comes to military and ecnomic issues. I also think the main stream media favors the Dems. They usually spin things in the Dems favor (probably because most of them are Dems).

However, you are spot on with this observation. I noticed it to and I find it baffling. Normally the press spins things towards the Dems but in this case all of a sudden a filibuster is a tactical procedure. You never hear the word filibuster anymore. Did some memo go around threatening reporters and editors families or something?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

10-04-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
As I have said in the past and will continue to say in the future the "mainstream" media has a strong liberal bias. It doesn't bother me when it comes to social issues but it really bothers me when it comes to military and ecnomic issues. I also think the main stream media favors the Dems. They usually spin things in the Dems favor (probably because most of them are Dems).

However, you are spot on with this observation. I noticed it to and I find it baffling. Normally the press spins things towards the Dems but in this case all of a sudden a filibuster is a tactical procedure. You never hear the word filibuster anymore. Did some memo go around threatening reporters and editors families or something?

It's interesting that you start with your conclusion, and then are surprised when the evidence doesn't fit it, and assume something is amiss.

Is there a name for this kind of logic?

sebastian_dangerfield

10-04-2007 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
It's interesting that you start with your conclusion, and then are surprised when the evidence doesn't fit it, and assume something is amiss.

Is there a name for this kind of logic?

Box logic. That's called box logic.

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