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Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Fair enough. But if true, I fear what is going to happen in this country on November 4. I really, really, really hope that the Dems do not turn this country into a banana republic, but I fear that the only way that has a chance of not happening is if Bush wins by at least 50.
You realize, of course, that many, many Dems feel that that this was exactly what the Rs did in 2000.

Not Me 10-14-2004 05:27 PM
Is it Just Me
 
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Sibling of prominent figure not even a candidate,
What Joe Kennedy did to his daughter and the lies that the Kennedys told about this is a story that needs to be told. Loudly. Bless Eunice's heart for trying to create a silver lining on that black cloud, but it in no way vitiates what her father did.

Not Me 10-14-2004 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You realize, of course, that many, many Dems feel that that this was exactly what the Rs did in 2000.
We realize you think that way. It is just that we also realize that you have no basis for feeling that way. It was Gore who was trying to selectively recount counties. It was a Dem election supervisor who approved those ballots you all complain about so loudly.

sgtclub 10-14-2004 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Interesting. You seem to think that if the circumstances were different, the GOP-- as the calmer, more mature party -- would simply accept the initial results and not be screaming for a recount from the tops of the mountains.

Stay tuned, skippy.
I do. See 1960.

sgtclub 10-14-2004 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You realize, of course, that many, many Dems feel that that this was exactly what the Rs did in 2000.
I do, but I think they are wrong. The GOP did not file the initial complaint.

Gattigap 10-14-2004 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I do. See 1960.
Setting aside any discussion of the events then, you think that the GOP is the party that it was 44 years ago?

Shit, Karl Rove wasn't even a twinkle in Beelzebub's eye back then.

GOP does not stand for "Granddad's Old Party."

Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I do, but I think they are wrong. The GOP did not file the initial complaint.
This is incorrect. Go do your research.

Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I do, but I think they are wrong. The GOP did not file the initial complaint.
And, as a matter of fact, Eric Alterman, in his book What Liberal Media cites this popular misperception as proof of how fawningly the media treated W during the 2000 election and the aftermath. The Rs filed the first suit, and then complained to the media about how the Dems were trying to litigate the election and steal it in the courts. Their complaints got the headlines, in spite of the facts to the contrary.

Does this mean there's a conservative bias in the media? I don't think so, other than the obviously biased sources. I think it means more of a bias towards laziness. It's easier to quote Baker et al. than it is to investigate facts.

Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 05:58 PM
Is it Just Me
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, I dunno. We spent the entire day not talking about the minimum wage.
We could talk about the budget deficit.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...budget_deficit

sgtclub 10-14-2004 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This is incorrect. Go do your research.
Why don't you illuminate me. Why would the GOP challenge results which showed they won?

Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Why don't you illuminate me. Why would the GOP challenge results which showed they won?
To stop the recounts.

The Larry Davis Experience 10-14-2004 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Pakistan is shaping up its act.
Their political act still looks the same from where I'm sitting. You must mean their snappy dance number.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-14-2004 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, I dunno. We spent the entire day not talking about the minimum wage.
You're smarter than you look, penguin.

Replaced_Texan 10-14-2004 06:06 PM
The FCC will not stop Sinclair from airing their documentary. I am not as incensed about this as my liberal bretheren and sistren. (I also think that the brouhaha over the whole thing has been a disservice to Our Cause, as it draws more attention to the docu than if it had aired without comment.)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...en_tv_eo/15123

I will be a little irritated, though, if the FEC has a similar ruling.

e bc I'm an idiot and put in the wrong link

Tyrone Slothrop 10-14-2004 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Not Me
It was Gore who was trying to selectively recount counties.
As was required by Florida law. There was no provision for a general recount.


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