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Shape Shifter 10-14-2004 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No. Then again, I suspect I am much more familiar with the man and his work than you are. I take you were happy to cite him as "respected" without having any real idea what his jurisprudence consists of?
Posner seems pretty mainstream to me. Listen to this praise for his work from a fellow conservative:


Those Zany, Wacky Federal Appellate Judges

In his new book Catastrophe: Risk and Response , Richard Posner, a judge on the federal Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, supposes that humanity may soon be enslaved or slaughtered by intelligent robots who consider Homo sapiens primate forms: "Human beings may turn out to be the 21st century's chimpanzees, and if so the robots may have as little use and regard for us as we do for our fellow, but nonhuman, primates." Judge, if you really fear intelligent robots will conquer humanity, shouldn't you, like, be putting some tech geeks into jail while there's still time?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7769106

taxwonk 10-14-2004 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why doesn't anyone ever ask the reverse question, namely, becasue we cannot intervene in ALL the worlds ills and help ALL the world's downtrodden, then why should WE ever intervene???

Why Pat Buchanan, Why?
Because it's a stupid fucking question. That's why only an asshole like Pat Buchanan or Charles Lindbergh would ask it. Was that a rhetorical device, or are you joining their club?

taxwonk 10-14-2004 09:58 PM

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Doesn't that give him credence in your circles?
In my circle, he only gets credit for bending the law in the direction I think it should go.

taxwonk 10-14-2004 10:04 PM

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I'm not at all familiar with his jurisprudence. I am familiar with some of his law/economics work.
Then that explains your ability to call him one of the country's most respected jurists without immediately choking to death on your own laughter.

taxwonk 10-14-2004 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Posner seems pretty mainstream to me. Listen to this praise for his work from a fellow conservative:


Those Zany, Wacky Federal Appellate Judges

In his new book Catastrophe: Risk and Response , Richard Posner, a judge on the federal Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, supposes that humanity may soon be enslaved or slaughtered by intelligent robots who consider Homo sapiens primate forms: "Human beings may turn out to be the 21st century's chimpanzees, and if so the robots may have as little use and regard for us as we do for our fellow, but nonhuman, primates." Judge, if you really fear intelligent robots will conquer humanity, shouldn't you, like, be putting some tech geeks into jail while there's still time?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7769106
Do you know offhand if Easterbrook is related to Posner's comrade-in-judicial-activism Frank Easterbrook?

sgtclub 10-14-2004 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Then that explains your ability to call him one of the country's most respected jurists without immediately choking to death on your own laughter.
Whatever. Your boy Bill Brennan called him brilliant, which he undoubtedly is.

sgtclub 10-14-2004 10:13 PM

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Do you know offhand if Easterbrook is related to Posner's comrade-in-judicial-activism Frank Easterbrook?
I find it laughable that you people are upset with what you perceive to be judicial activism.

dtb 10-14-2004 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I thought it was clear he meant me.

Thurgreed(I'll meet you at the Plahza, of course, for tea)Marshall
Well, of course, dahling... I just didn't want -- you know -- the riff-raff crashing our luuuvley pahty. Shhh!

taxwonk 10-14-2004 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Whatever. Your boy Bill Brennan called him brilliant, which he undoubtedly is.
Brilliant he is. One of the best legal theorists there are. But he is wholly out of touch with the real world and ther is no one I know of who has less juridical balance and temperament.

taxwonk 10-14-2004 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I find it laughable that you people are upset with what you perceive to be judicial activism.
I'm not a fan of it, and I never have been. And I'm not sure who you mean by "you people." If you're simply lumping me in with your general misunderstanding of "liberal" then I guess that makes you the kind of conservative that this liberal refers to as "you assholes."

Tax(isn't easily pigeonholed)wonk

Hank Chinaski 10-14-2004 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Please read the article and tell me the facts you or Posner disagree with. You have already mistated a huge popular misconception, stating that "[t]he GOP did not file the initial complaint." This is false, no matter what your definition or understanding of "file" is. I would like for you to point me to any misconceptions I may be laboring under as well.
The Fla. Sec. of State, as required by Fla. law was set to certify the result. she was told not to because the recounts couldn't be finished. that is how it started. how did we fire the first shot?

ps w/o CBS calling the election an hour early for the panhandle Gore loses by 10000 votes, so understand this is all a hypo. Your side fucked fairness first and worst.

sgtclub 10-14-2004 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
I'm not a fan of it, and I never have been. And I'm not sure who you mean by "you people." If you're simply lumping me in with your general misunderstanding of "liberal" then I guess that makes you the kind of conservative that this liberal refers to as "you assholes."

Tax(isn't easily pigeonholed)wonk
If I was directing this at you per se I would have said "you." You people is short hand for those on the other side of the idealogical divide, but I do find it curious (and somewhat comforting) that you do not support judicial activism. There aren't many of you people out there.

Hank Chinaski 10-14-2004 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You read a book and still don't have a handle on the most basic facts. You haven't countered any of the facts I've presented with anything more than "Maybe, but I didn't like it when the Dems did that." Did your parents receive child-raising tips from Joe Kennedy? Your being particularly dense on this.

I'll take your offer of love as a concession of defeat.

46-7.
well someone who can tell which of two votes on a ballot was the intended one....we can argue with the psychic.

Hank Chinaski 10-14-2004 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Trade in your balls for a nice box of potpourri right now, you fucking traitor.

I don't care which party you belong to. Every guy should be tripping over themselves to pat him on the back for landing a billionaire wife. And it doesn't matter what she fucking looks like.

TM
see. all the men with dicks agree. He married her for money.

Slave Thurgreed and I get to claim 1 victory.
63-5

Tyrone Slothrop 10-14-2004 10:50 PM

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Do you know offhand if Easterbrook is related to Posner's comrade-in-judicial-activism Frank Easterbrook?
Gregg Easterbrook and Frank Easterbrook are brothers.


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