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baltassoc 08-29-2005 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have had five bourbon and cokes more times than I can count. Result is a vicious hangover. I learned a few years back that if I eliminated the coke part of the equation and had five straight bourbons, I had no hangover... or at least much less of a hangover.
I big component to hangovers is dehydration. Both alcohol and caffeine are diuretics, so bourbon and cokes hit you double in that regard (the diuretic effect of the coke more than outweighs the additional fluid you intake). I have no idea whether sugar compounds a hangover, but one way to test would be to do the same thing with Diet Cokes.

Salt, on the other hand, contracts the diuretic effect, and food slows down absorbtion into the blood stream, which is why both can lesson a hangover (as long as your reaction to being thirsty from the salt is to drink water and not more alcohol).

Hank Chinaski 08-29-2005 11:04 AM

Why
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why would someone store a toothpick behind his ear? Because he might suddenly be struck with the need to pick his teeth? And would want to do it with something that has been sitting behind his ear?
Do you take as a paramour the sort man who does not wash behind his ears? I think you need to raise your standards.

sgtclub 08-29-2005 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have had five bourbon and cokes more times than I can count. Result is a vicious hangover. I learned a few years back that if I eliminated the coke part of the equation and had five straight bourbons, I had no hangover... or at least much less of a hangover.

You are correct about the eating thing. Eating something will take care of the nausea you'd otherwise feel the following morning.

BTW, why would you want more sugar in your drink? Thats just useless extra liquid you're ingesting. I love beer, but I gave up drinking it to get drunk years ago. You wind up getting bloated and lethargic. If you drink booze as straight as you can, you can drink more, feel better and get a really solid drunk on...
I am in this camp as well, but if you do need a mixer, make it a diet drink (i.e., no sugar). I think the reason is that sugar is dehydrating.

Penske_Account 08-29-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I am in this camp as well, but if you do need a mixer, make it a diet drink (i.e., no sugar). I think the reason is that sugar is dehydrating.
I drink grain. Out of the bottle. Occassionally I dissolve some sugar free tic tacs in it to take the edge off the bitterness.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I drink grain. Out of the bottle. Occassionally I dissolve some sugar free tic tacs in it to take the edge off the bitterness.
God, man. Stay away from the grain punch. You'll get raped by an ultimate frisbee team.

taxwonk 08-29-2005 01:49 PM

Moo
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Kittens help to tenderize the meat - but I still prefer the time honored technique of using a claw hammer.

Best veal you'll ever have.

Sushi place I'm going to later tonight does this interesting nigiri variation using Foie Gras. It's phenomenal.
Odd. I would havce guessed liver would fall aprt if you tried to beat a fish to death with it. I guess the extra fat from the force-feeding helps glue it together through repeated whacks at the fish.

Hank Chinaski 08-29-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
God, man. Stay away from the grain punch. You'll get raped by an ultimate frisbee team.
I believe that's how he gets the salty "food" to fight the hangover.

taxwonk 08-29-2005 01:54 PM

Britassoc disc
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Shifter

Can you please give me a ring?
First on-board proposal?

Penske_Account 08-29-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
God, man. Stay away from the grain punch. You'll get raped by an ultimate frisbee team.
This explains a lot. NTTAWWT.

Spanky 08-29-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I am in this camp as well, but if you do need a mixer, make it a diet drink (i.e., no sugar). I think the reason is that sugar is dehydrating.
Here is my solution for avoiding hangovers.

Before going to sleep take:

1) A B Complex multivitamin. Somehow these help the liver process the alcohol and become depleted when you drink. Doctors give B-Vitamin shots to really hungover people.

2) Aspirin - that is before going to bed. I think it thins the blood which helps for some reason. It has to be Aspirin and not some other pain killer. If you take Excedrin the caffein helps speed up the processing of the Alcohol, but may also prevent you from getting to sleep.

3) Water - for dehydration

4) Salty food. - combats diaretic effects and dilutes the alcohol.

5) Sob'r-K Detoxifier. Recommended by Consumer Reports. Absorbs impurities from the Alcohol that cause hangovers (the impurities cause much of the hangover and that is why higher end alcohol causes less of a hangover).

Penske_Account 08-29-2005 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Here is my solution for avoiding hangovers.

Before going to sleep take:

1) A B Complex multivitamin. Somehow these help the liver process the alcohol and become depleted when you drink. Doctors give B-Vitamin shots to really hungover people.

2) Aspirin - that is before going to bed. I think it thins the blood which helps for some reason. It has to be Aspirin and not some other pain killer. If you take Excedrin the caffein helps speed up the processing of the Alcohol, but may also prevent you from getting to sleep.

3) Water - for dehydration

4) Salty food. - combats diaretic effects and dilutes the alcohol.

5) Sob'r-K Detoxifier. Recommended by Consumer Reports. Absorbs impurities from the Alcohol that cause hangovers (the impurities cause much of the hangover and that is why higher end alcohol causes less of a hangover).
Or just keep drinking.

robustpuppy 08-29-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Here is my solution for avoiding hangovers.

Before going to sleep take:

1) A B Complex multivitamin. Somehow these help the liver process the alcohol and become depleted when you drink. Doctors give B-Vitamin shots to really hungover people.

2) Aspirin - that is before going to bed. I think it thins the blood which helps for some reason. It has to be Aspirin and not some other pain killer. If you take Excedrin the caffein helps speed up the processing of the Alcohol, but may also prevent you from getting to sleep.

3) Water - for dehydration

4) Salty food. - combats diaretic effects and dilutes the alcohol.

5) Sob'r-K Detoxifier. Recommended by Consumer Reports. Absorbs impurities from the Alcohol that cause hangovers (the impurities cause much of the hangover and that is why higher end alcohol causes less of a hangover).
Good advice, but those are a lot of steps to remember when you're wasted. You'd have to set up a hangover kit in your bedroom before going out.

And remember -- NO TYLENOL.

futbol fan 08-29-2005 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Good advice, but those are a lot of steps to remember when you're wasted.
Too true. Keys, wallet, and the third verse to "The Broad Black Brimmer" are about the only things I consistently remember.

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And remember -- NO TYLENOL.
All you big fancy lawyers and your precious livers.

robustpuppy 08-29-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Too true. Keys, wallet, and the third verse to "The Broad Black Brimmer" are about the only things I consistently remember.
Imagine what you'd have to remember if you woke up in a different bed every time you got trashed.

How could one fit B vitamins, aspirin, water, fritos & slim jims, the detoxifier, condoms, a toothbrush, a small tube of moisturizer, lip balm, her cell phone, ID, cash card, and keys in her little going-out purse?

Spanky 08-29-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Good advice, but those are a lot of steps to remember when you're wasted. You'd have to set up a hangover kit in your bedroom before going out.

And remember -- NO TYLENOL.
I have the excedrin, the B Vitamins and the Sob'r-k all in one bottle. I have water and frozen burritos (for the microwave) in my freezer.

This combination really does the trick.

Gattigap 08-29-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Imagine what you'd have to remember if you woke up in a different bed every time you got trashed.

How could one fit B vitamins, aspirin, water, fritos & slim jims, the detoxifier, condoms, a toothbrush, a small tube of moisturizer, lip balm, her cell phone, ID, cash card, and keys in her little going-out purse?
Well, weed's man bag is quite impressive. He's even got room for a flask, for emergencies.

notcasesensitive 08-29-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Here is my solution for avoiding hangovers.

Before going to sleep take:

1) A B Complex multivitamin. Somehow these help the liver process the alcohol and become depleted when you drink. Doctors give B-Vitamin shots to really hungover people.

2) Aspirin - that is before going to bed. I think it thins the blood which helps for some reason. It has to be Aspirin and not some other pain killer. If you take Excedrin the caffein helps speed up the processing of the Alcohol, but may also prevent you from getting to sleep.

3) Water - for dehydration

4) Salty food. - combats diaretic effects and dilutes the alcohol.

5) Sob'r-K Detoxifier. Recommended by Consumer Reports. Absorbs impurities from the Alcohol that cause hangovers (the impurities cause much of the hangover and that is why higher end alcohol causes less of a hangover).
Chaser. Read the box, follow the directions.

I've been doing it for the last year or so to Fabulous results. Only hangovers I've had in the last year resulted from underconsumption of Chasers while drinking.

I am a broken record on this issue.

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 02:55 PM

Confidential to PP
 
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Originally posted by Stolen Fork
hi
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Penske_Account 08-29-2005 02:58 PM

Confidential to PP
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
hi
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Spanky 08-29-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Chaser. Read the box, follow the directions.

I've been doing it for the last year or so to Fabulous results. Only hangovers I've had in the last year resulted from underconsumption of Chasers while drinking.

I am a broken record on this issue.
I was using Chaser until I read about Sob'r-k. According to consumer reports they are pretty much the same stuff but Chaser also includes other non needed stuff. In other words you get more of the Carbon filtration with every pill. In addition, Chaser is much more expensive than Sob'r-K (like four times the cost). When you buy Chaser you have to pay for all their advertising and kick backs to the drugstore for getting the prime shelf space.

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Here is my solution for avoiding hangovers.

Before going to sleep take:

1) A B Complex multivitamin. Somehow these help the liver process the alcohol and become depleted when you drink. Doctors give B-Vitamin shots to really hungover people.

2) Aspirin - that is before going to bed. I think it thins the blood which helps for some reason. It has to be Aspirin and not some other pain killer. If you take Excedrin the caffein helps speed up the processing of the Alcohol, but may also prevent you from getting to sleep.

3) Water - for dehydration

4) Salty food. - combats diaretic effects and dilutes the alcohol.

5) Sob'r-K Detoxifier. Recommended by Consumer Reports. Absorbs impurities from the Alcohol that cause hangovers (the impurities cause much of the hangover and that is why higher end alcohol causes less of a hangover).
Has anyone here ever gone to the doctor for being really hungover? Didn't think so.

Wherecan one buy this Sob'r K stuff?

Spanky 08-29-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Has anyone here ever gone to the doctor for being really hungover? Didn't think so.

Wherecan one buy this Sob'r K stuff?
I had friends in LA that did. And the doctor gave them B vitamin shots.

I ordered Sob'r-k on the internet.

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 03:11 PM

Confidential to PP
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Hi!
whiff

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I had friends in LA that did. And the doctor gave them B vitamin shots.

I ordered Sob'r-k on the internet.
The apostrophe and dash are google deterrants. Just bring me a bottle at the next happy hour.

Does this stuff prevent the liver cell holocaust that ensures from all the hooch? Or just the symptoms?

I think if you are going to the doctor for a severe hangover, you might want to make a pitstop at your local AA meeting, bc I think you have a problem.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Has anyone here ever gone to the doctor for being really hungover? Didn't think so.

Wherecan one buy this Sob'r K stuff?
Years ago... Half a bottle of Wild Turkey 101, half a pack of Marlboro Reds and about 20 whip its and untold bong hits and beers. My stomach felt like someone had poured lava into it. Thought an ulcer had finally burst.

The doc questioned me about the previous night's activities. It was during his jogging of my memory that I recalled the late nite drive to Taco Bell. None of the booze did me in - the culprit was the damned seven layer burritos and mexican pizzas.

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Years ago... Half a bottle of Wild Turkey 101, half a pack of Marlboro Reds and about 20 whip its and untold bong hits and beers. My stomach felt like someone had poured lava into it. Thought an ulcer had finally burst.

The doc questioned me about the previous night's activities. It was during his jogging of my memory that I recalled the late nite drive to Taco Bell. None of the booze did me in - the culprit was the damned seven layer burritos and mexican pizzas.

What precipitated the decision to see the doctor? I would not haev known that a doctor could help. Only time and a xanax or two. Were you lying in bed lin pain and decided you couldnt take it and drove to the ER? Were you so lifeless that your frat cats threw you in the back of the volvo wagon out of concern?

I didn't know ulcers burst. I thought they were open sores on the inside.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
What precipitated the decision to see the doctor? I would not haev known that a doctor could help. Only time and a xanax or two. Were you lying in bed lin pain and decided you couldnt take it and drove to the ER? Were you so lifeless that your frat cats threw you in the back of the volvo wagon out of concern?

I didn't know ulcers burst. I thought they were open sores on the inside.
It really hurt. Searing pain like never before, up the esophagus further than ever before. Felt like a heart attack (or what I'm told a heart attack feels like).

I drove. Xanax only cures the detox jitters. This wasn't a detox thing. It was more a stomach issue.

One of my best friends had to take his wife to the hospital after their wedding to get a fluid IV. She got obliterated at the ceremony. After a lil fluid, she got right on the plane for the Carribean.

Hank Chinaski 08-29-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
What precipitated the decision to see the doctor? I would not haev known that a doctor could help. Only time and a xanax or two. Were you lying in bed lin pain and decided you couldnt take it and drove to the ER? Were you so lifeless that your frat cats threw you in the back of the volvo wagon out of concern?

I didn't know ulcers burst. I thought they were open sores on the inside.
I was walking home blind once in college and slipped on black ice. It turned out I cracked a rib. The next morning I had pain but no memory. Over the next few days I convinvced myself it was angina and I went to the emergency room.

Is a drunk induced broken rib broadly a "hangover?"

SlaveNoMore 08-29-2005 03:28 PM

Huh?
 
Why does any of this babble have to do with law - and why isn't it being posted on the FB?

Replaced_Texan 08-29-2005 03:30 PM

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why does any of this babble have to do with law - and why isn't it being posted on the FB?
Because Spanky is afraid of the FB.

Hank Chinaski 08-29-2005 03:32 PM

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why does any of this babble have to do with law - and why isn't it being posted on the FB?
I was too young to be drinking legally.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I was walking home blind once in college and slipped on black ice. It turned out I cracked a rib. The next morning I had pain but no memory. Over the next few days I convinvced myself it was angina and I went to the emergency room.

Is a drunk induced broken rib broadly a "hangover?"
You have to be careful with dialing the 911. I dated a wild chick in college. We ate a bunch of really insanely strong shrooms one afternoon. I told her to take it easy and drink some beers and ease into the trip because I knew they were strong. Screwy chick went and found a dude with blow and ripped a few lines just as the first 747 takeoff wave of the fungus began to kick in. She lost her shit completely and started demanding I call the hospital because she was going to die. It took a bottle of champagne to get her halfway under control.

Found out years later she had an undiagnossed heart problem. I shudder to think what might have happened during our brief time together. I don't think you recover from waking up ssenior year and finding a dead chick lying next to you. That would've seriously blown...

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 03:35 PM

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why does any of this babble have to do with law - and why isn't it being posted on the FB?
Its all the same thread, man.

taxwonk 08-29-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't think you recover from waking up ssenior year and finding a dead chick lying next to you. That would've seriously blown...
Don't I know it.

Oh shit. Did I post that out loud?

bold_n_brazen 08-29-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You have to be careful with dialing the 911. I dated a wild chick in college. We ate a bunch of really insanely strong shrooms one afternoon. I told her to take it easy and drink some beers and ease into the trip because I knew they were strong. Screwy chick went and found a dude with blow and ripped a few lines just as the first 747 takeoff wave of the fungus began to kick in. She lost her shit completely and started demanding I call the hospital because she was going to die. It took a bottle of champagne to get her halfway under control.

Found out years later she had an undiagnossed heart problem. I shudder to think what might have happened during our brief time together. I don't think you recover from waking up ssenior year and finding a dead chick lying next to you. That would've seriously blown...
I find it uncanny how similar our college experiences were.

Uncanny and a little frightening.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I find it uncanny how similar our college experiences were.

Uncanny and a little frightening.
Oh, I think most people's were like ours. I have piles of friends with similar experiences.

bold_n_brazen 08-29-2005 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh, I think most people's were like ours. I have piles of friends with similar experiences.
I think you are wrong. Or else everyone I know is lying.

notcasesensitive 08-29-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
It really hurt. Searing pain like never before, up the esophagus further than ever before. Felt like a heart attack (or what I'm told a heart attack feels like).

I drove. Xanax only cures the detox jitters. This wasn't a detox thing. It was more a stomach issue.

One of my best friends had to take his wife to the hospital after their wedding to get a fluid IV. She got obliterated at the ceremony. After a lil fluid, she got right on the plane for the Carribean.
Fluid IV. That was the plan we came up with one night to make oodles and oodles of money. Open an IV bar with Doctor friend next door to the busiest bar in town. Run it from midnight to 4 am. Profit.

Why do these not exist? It can't be illegal to give people fluids can it?

paigowprincess 08-29-2005 04:00 PM

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Because Spanky is afraid of the FB.
Exactly. This is the FB for the dignified and mature crowd. It is alsot the new home of the Book Club.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-29-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I think you are wrong. Or else everyone I know is lying.
It is possible I seek out people who behave similarly.


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