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baltassoc 02-15-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Raggedy Ann Coulter
How long did it take Billary Rodham to report the suicide of Vincent Foster?
Your schtick on this has already been coopted by the left. Move along.

Sexual Harassment Panda 02-15-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Raggedy Ann Coulter
How long did it take Billary Rodham to report the suicide of Vincent Foster?
If I were you, I'd keep my yap shut for a few days, criminal. You better hope you got some fans in the state attorney's office.

ltl/fb 02-15-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
On a, true unless the guy dies.

On b, Russert made teh interesting point that cheney's constituency is 1, Bush, since he's not running for election in 2008. He can give everyone the finger, basically. Of course, that may cost Bush, but it doesn't cost Cheney, at least until Bush cuts him loose, which he won't because that looks even worse than letting him continue to fuck around (and I say that's true even if Scooter Libby implicates him in open court on Plame).

on c, listening to his explanations is good theatre. Sebby's description of him (it was more articulate than "fat fuck", but not too different) is still straight on. The guy is a hack who is really poor at explaining a bad situation. While he's not been blessed by spinnable stories, most people with that job still find a way.
On (b), my comment is that he looks like fuckup jackass and he's in the public eye. Like, Brittany has NO constituency, and I think that driving with the baby in her lap AND her pathetic explanations for it are annoying and stupid.

Cheney is a representative of the administration and of the GOP, and he's helping make both of them look bad/stupid/whatever in a whole new way to me. Which is kinda cool.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-15-2006 02:15 PM

Is this true?
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Why not make the same argument about any drugs? So long as you waive, you can take it?
Liability for every adverse effect from any activity/drug should be knowingly waivable. But then some fucking lawyers will come along and claim the waiver wasn’t “informed” or some such shit to make a buck out of someone’s irresponsibility.

This is America. Responsbility isn't your business - thats a legal issue, to be decided by a jury.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-15-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
On (b), my comment is that he looks like fuckup jackass and he's in the public eye. Like, Brittany has NO constituency, and I think that driving with the baby in her lap AND her pathetic explanations for it are annoying and stupid.

Cheney is a representative of the administration and of the GOP, and he's helping make both of them look bad/stupid/whatever in a whole new way to me. Which is kinda cool.
I think this issue will die when Cheney says “I haven’t spoken because I shot my friend, and if you’re as human as you all claim to be when you call me a soulless scumbag, you’ll of course understand how distraught this has made me.”

Of all the issues the press could glom onto, the cover-up of this incident (which isn’t a cover up at all) is the least salacious. The press is a fucking embarrassment.

ltl/fb 02-15-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I think this issue will die when Cheney says “I haven’t spoken because I shot my friend, and if you’re as human as you all claim to be when you call me a soulless scumbag, you’ll of course understand how distraught this has made me.”

Of all the issues the press could glom onto, the cover-up of this incident (which isn’t a cover up at all) is the least salacious. The press is a fucking embarrassment.
I don't see it as a cover-up -- it's a fuck-up. They should have done a press release quickly, and had Cheney give a short statement saying how concerned he is about his friend's health. Both should have mentioned that they wants to respect the family's privacy as much as possible. The whole story would be dead, with the whole heart attack demoted to a short little blurb.

It's not rocket science. Where the hell is Rove?

eta I wish the media would shut the fuck up about this other than to give a one-line update when his condition changes dramatically. And that only because total silence would be weird after all the attention. They were interviewing doctors about how those heart attacks work, for chrissakes. WHO CARES.

sgtclub 02-15-2006 02:40 PM

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http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.as...20060215a.html

Hank Chinaski 02-15-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb

eta I wish the media would shut the fuck up about this other than to give a one-line update when his condition changes dramatically. And that only because total silence would be weird after all the attention. They were interviewing doctors about how those heart attacks work, for chrissakes. WHO CARES.
Maybe some of us are caring people and concerned for this guy.

ltl/fb 02-15-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Maybe some of us are caring people and concerned for this guy.
Go find some poor sick orphaned family and friendless person to be concerned for and visit him/her in the hospital. This guy is covered.

Hank Chinaski 02-15-2006 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Go find some poor sick orphaned family and friendless person to be concerned for and visit him/her in the hospital. This guy is covered.
I can do both. Don't i always answer your PMs?

sebastian_dangerfield 02-15-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I don't see it as a cover-up -- it's a fuck-up. They should have done a press release quickly, and had Cheney give a short statement saying how concerned he is about his friend's health. Both should have mentioned that they wants to respect the family's privacy as much as possible. The whole story would be dead, with the whole heart attack demoted to a short little blurb.

It's not rocket science. Where the hell is Rove?
I agree. They fucked this up. But then they fuck everything up.

But its only a fuck up when viewed in terms of what an admin which gives a damn about the Beltway and the Press should do.

The Beltway and Press don't loathe this Admin because they're left-leaners who hate Bush's policies. They hate this Admin because it refuses to play their game. It doesn't kiss the Press' ass or follow the Policy Wonks' and Beltway Professionals' book of "how to do things." The Beltway is incestuous and protective - they don't like this disrespect in their own backyard. The Press also wants to be considered important enough to get a briefing on these types of things. Cheney's tell them all to go fuck themselves. In that regard, I kind of like him. I don't agree with his politics, but I respect anyone who tells a bloated pack of haughty assholes protecting their wasteful system and egos to go fuck themselves.

We ought to fire most of DC, so Cheney's attitude, IMO, is a good start. If nothing else, he's proven to future leaders that you can step all over the established bureaucrats and get away with it (well, if you're not running for anything next election, that is...).

LessinSF 02-15-2006 03:17 PM

InaniTy
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't see any reason for you to call Christians "crazy," and I think you should cut it out. As a Christian, I think this borders on the offensive.
Sorry to be late to respond but ...

By definition, Christians are crazy. They believe in something without evidence. And, they wallow in it. "Faith" means "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith . That is essentially the same as "crazy" - "marked by foolish or unreasoning fondness." Id. If it were not for the amount of Christians, i.e. if there was only one of the stupid fuckers, s/he would be committed.

ltl/fb 02-15-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But its only a fuck up when viewed in terms of what an admin which gives a damn about the Beltway and the Press should do.

The Beltway and Press don't loathe this Admin because they're left-leaners who hate Bush's policies. They hate this Admin because it refuses to play their game.
You are 180 off on this. This Admin seems to expend a ton of effort on figuring out what message the media gets and then being consistent with it. Managing communication, at least in the 1st term, was a huge huge thing for them, which is why no statement -- including no vanilla boring cliched statement of concern for his buddy from Cheney -- seems even more like a misstep to me.

But unlike much of the press, I don't think it's really a cover-up or anything -- I just think it's a communications fuck-up.

What the hell does Cheney do, anyway? It seems like VPs are exactly the people to come up with canned statements of sympathy for families and shit like that.

LessinSF 02-15-2006 03:25 PM

Mnnnn, Danish
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Jesus, man, is daytime cable that bad?

PS: I find your wish to see mankind driven to the brink of obliteration and forced to live in a Mad Maxian post-apocalyptic netherworld to assuage your boredom interesting and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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sebastian_dangerfield 02-15-2006 03:26 PM

InaniTy
 
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Originally posted by LessinSF
Sorry to be late to respond but ...

By definition, Christians are crazy. They believe in something without evidence. And, they wallow in it. "Faith" means "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith . That is the same as "crazy" - "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." Id. If it were not for the amount of Christians, i.e. if there were only one, they would be committed.
Again, I need to subscribe to your newsletter.

I believe in a "God" on the rational basis that some creating energy had to start everything (If there's a flaw in that thinking, I'm comforted to know its a flaw in my rational thought, rather than me deluding myself with some religious voodoo stories).

I also believe there is no bigger waste of time - or absurd endeavor - than organized religion. Its the root cause of just about every rotten thing in society today. By definition its destructive - it asks a person to throw ssense to the wind and elevate the fantastic over the concrete. What good could come of that jackassery?

Mencken was right about religion 60 years ago. Grow up, you chickenshits, and deal with your mortality already...


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