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Hank Chinaski 11-08-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I wouldn't go so far as to be ashamed to be at the same school, but yeah.

The State Dept. has to staff the embassy, apparently, and it's not like they haven't asked for volunteers. I guess it depends on loyalty to an employer in the difficult position of having to staff wildly unpopular jobs, compounded by the fact that your employer doesn't have the option to just move out of that business.

I would not have a lot of loyalty to the State Dept. under the W. Admin, possibly. But I wouldn't bitch publicly and act like they had no right to tell me that my job is going to be X. I would either do it or quit. And bitch endlessly, of course, but it wouldn't be about how my employer is morally WRONG to do it -- WTF is the State Dept. supposed to do? Leave the embassy massively understaffed? How would your friend feel if he had volunteered to go there, and was stuck there, and then everyone else refused to go even when told to, and the State Dept. said "OK, just cope with being really understaffed -- we can't make people go there, and no one else volunteered. So, well, sucks to be you."
but the blogs Ty reads, they say the employees are right??? who to believe????

Tyrone Slothrop 11-08-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I wouldn't go so far as to be ashamed to be at the same school, but yeah.

The State Dept. has to staff the embassy, apparently, and it's not like they haven't asked for volunteers. I guess it depends on loyalty to an employer in the difficult position of having to staff wildly unpopular jobs, compounded by the fact that your employer doesn't have the option to just move out of that business.

I would not have a lot of loyalty to the State Dept. under the W. Admin, possibly. But I wouldn't bitch publicly and act like they had no right to tell me that my job is going to be X. I would either do it or quit. And bitch endlessly, of course, but it wouldn't be about how my employer is morally WRONG to do it -- WTF is the State Dept. supposed to do? Leave the embassy massively understaffed? How would your friend feel if he had volunteered to go there, and was stuck there, and then everyone else refused to go even when told to, and the State Dept. said "OK, just cope with being really understaffed -- we can't make people go there, and no one else volunteered. So, well, sucks to be you."
(1) It's about the largest embassy in the world. So "understaffed" is an odd way to put it.

(2) They could offer people more money to go. That's how it works with, e.g., the Blackwater people guarding the diplomats.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-08-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
but the blogs Ty reads, they say the employees are right??? who to believe????
(1) My original source is e-mail from my friend, a FSO, who was a candidate to be sent to Iraq.

(2) I pointed out there were blogs with conflicting views. I have read them, too.

(3) My friend was bitching about it publicly. Only to family and friends. That seems fair.

(4) You are a dope sometimes.

Spanky 11-08-2007 10:18 PM

sweet, sweet irony
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Poll: is this the most unbelievable statement ever on the PB?
Yes

Hank Chinaski 11-08-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
(1) My original source is e-mail from my friend, a FSO, who was a candidate to be sent to Iraq.

(2) I pointed out there were blogs with conflicting views. I have read them, too.

(3) My friend was bitching about it publicly. Only to family and friends. That seems fair.

(4) You are a dope sometimes.
atticus said he's only seen 1 post where i seemed stupid.

Atticus Grinch 11-08-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
atticus said he's only seen 1 post where i seemed stupid.
No, you've said many stupid things, and in that sense you "seemed" stupid many times. All along I interpreted this to mean that you were wrong, not stupid. By contrast, I don't believe you were trying to sound stupid about the "Bin Laden endorses Kerry" thing. That post caused me to be concerned that you were stupid.

Ty, perhaps a Venn diagram?

Atticus Grinch 11-08-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
So actually find out the facts with respect to your benefits, people, for fuck's sake.
I tried to do that and you were unhepful.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 11-08-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
unhepful.
that word has the same grammatical legitimacy as irregardless.

Atticus Grinch 11-08-2007 11:02 PM

caption, please
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
http://debatableland.typepad.com/the...log_1107_2.jpg
"No, I wanna be Dean -- you be Frank!"

Hank Chinaski 11-08-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
flipflop
I meant the original Atticus

Hank Chinaski 11-08-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I tried to do that and you were unhepful.
thank you. when fringey and i have our quarrels it's amazing how often the objective observers take my side. can you say 100%?

Tyrone Slothrop 11-08-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Ty, perhaps a Venn diagram?
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FBXGhy-QmVw/...0/card1154.JPG

ltl/fb 11-08-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I tried to do that and you were unhepful.
You said that was w/r/t your personal savings, not some executive benefits. You pay me $5,000, I will figure out your life insurance shit, richie-rich-boy.

sgtclub 11-09-2007 01:39 PM

Peggy Noonan on Clinton v. Thatcher
 
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

futbol fan 11-09-2007 01:48 PM

Peggy Noonan on Clinton v. Thatcher
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/
"Hillary Clinton: She's No Margaret Thatcher."

You can't buy publicity like that. Thanks Peggy!


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