hahahahahahahahaha, yeah, the CIA doesn't use outside contractors except in times of war or other emergency. That's a good one.

Plus, if we are now having a policy of encouraging middle eastern countries to become democracies with lots of free speech etc., the gov't should be beefing up its complement of Arabic-speaking employees. If they are good interrogators, they should be good at doing other stuff too, like analysis of news etc. And it's not like there's a huge market for interrogators who speak Arabic and have worked for the US gov't.

I agree but liberals hate this because it means less people in the federal employee union.

Yet, curiously, the ones they're currently employing are insufficient for current needs in the middle east.

obviously we use outside contractors. that's not the point. the point is we're not putting people on the permanent payroll for a temporary need.

Or, there are boondoggles going on.

I imagine there is some of both. All the time, not just now. Under all administrations.

Cheney has a cousin who owns an Iraqui language school.

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If you're trying to convince me that some conservatives think it's OK to torture random Iraqis by sticking things up their asses, etc., because a bunch of Saudis flew planes into the World Trade Center, you've succeeded. If you have another point, it's less clear.

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I'll note, and only FWIW (which isn't the whole dollar), that many law-enforcement type agencies will not hire a 21 year old without college.

Unless they have a military background, particularly as an MP.

While the officers and NCOs deserve to be demoted for failure to supervise etc., I think one decent long-term suggestion is that nobody, and I mean nobody, should be allowed to be an MP at 21 yoa. If its not good enough for civilian law enforcement, its probably not good enough for military law enforcement.

Just a thought about that young woman who seems to be in lotso the really bad pictures.

Hello

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she's preggers by the guy with glasses standing next to her, and his ex thinks he is nuts-

condensed news story from condensed story in today's usatoday

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http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/...abuse.1842.jpg

There's an article about her in today's NYT; it also ran in today's SF Chronicle, but they got it from the NYT. This will surely surprise everyone who hasn't read the article, but her family didn't think she was the sort of person to get mixed up in all that.

For fun, try to pick out the real quotations from the article:

• "She's kind of stubborn. But that doesn't mean she can't follow orders."
  
  "When the other kids at her high school would go out torturing Arabs, she would stay home to do her homework."
  
  "She is straight in your face, tells you how it is. That's why it shocked me. It's so not her. It's not in her nature to do something like that. There's not a malicious bone in her body."
  
  "We always figured she might be a gay, but we never expected this."

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I agree that 21 year olds lack the maturity necessary to do certain jobs requiring one to have perspective and self-control.

However, my suggestion is that military personnel no longer be allowed to have cameras. Apparently, Rummy is testifying that there are many more photos and the worst haven't been released yet.

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And after all the trouble they have gone through to keep journalists in the dark. What a pity.

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That post doesn't say anything about banning cameras.

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Not my point. Any humiliation/toture of innocents makes puke. Torture/humiliation of "resistence" fighters, while not acceptable without an overiding need to save coalition lives, does not rise to this level. Torture/humiliation of Al Qaeda is preferrable.