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Sidd Finch 03-31-2004 12:27 PM
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As a lover of jazz and hip-hop, I reject your poll. There is no song too good to not be remade or a version too definitive.
I love jazz and hip-hop too, but I chose the songs I chose (All Along the Watchtower, Layla, and Fight the Power) with that in mind. Even Coltrane couldn't improve on those.

ABBAKiss 03-31-2004 12:27 PM
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It is not that heard to not be exposed to pop music.
I like this typo.

Replaced_Texan 03-31-2004 12:28 PM
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I'll do 3 plus

1. Most of Sinatra's best tunes.
2. Most Dylan (he shouldn't even play most of his stuff live anymore; and Bob Weir certainly shouldn't be allowed to continue destroying Queen Jane)
3. Anything by the Who (you can't do keith and entwhistle, so don't try)
4. Zeppelin (see # 3)
5. Hendrix (see # 4)
6. Remakes of '60s psychedelic stuff
This is why this is a stupid poll. For example, SRV revisited Hendrix and the world didn't implode. One could even argue that the works can hold up their own against each other. Kenny Wayne Shephard revisited SRV and again, we're all still standing here. Hendrix took on Dylan, and an earlier post suggested that the world is a better place for it.

None of this stuff is sacred, and it's all open for reinterpretation. Sure, some of it will be bad, but some of it will be mindblowingly good. I, for one, am looking forward to Clapton's tribute to Robert Johnson, even though some could argue that Johnson is an untouchable.

I saw the Emerson String Quartet play Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings last year, in one of the most emotionally moving musical performances that I've ever seen live. I think it's very possible that that performance could not be matched. That doesn't mean that I'm not looking forward to the next string quartet that tries it.

Sidd Finch 03-31-2004 12:29 PM
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3. Anything by the Who (you can't do keith and entwhistle, so don't try)
How do you feel about Pete Townsend's remakes of Who standards, like Won't Get Fooled Again?

ABBAKiss 03-31-2004 12:29 PM
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ABBA Honey,

None of this is stuff to be proud of.
Neither proud nor ashamed. Simply self-absorbed. Why are you surprised?

Bad_Rich_Chic 03-31-2004 12:30 PM
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I abhor Bob Dylan.
You and me both.

However, Clapton/Derek & the Dominoes' Bellbottom Blues should be sacrosanct.

Sidd Finch 03-31-2004 12:30 PM
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If you're gonna sell out, you might as well sell out while surrounded by hot, nearly-nude chicks.


That is precisely what I said at the celebration of my rise to GP-hood.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-31-2004 12:35 PM
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How do you feel about Pete Townsend's remakes of Who standards, like Won't Get Fooled Again?
Pete needs to hang it up. His mind is shot.

baltassoc 03-31-2004 12:37 PM
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I'll do 3 plus
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3. Anything by the Who (you can't do keith and entwhistle, so don't try)
I have a cover of Substitute by Richard Thompson on a bootleg that's just incredible. In fact, that bootleg is one of the best albums I've ever heard. Live at the Bottomline, although I think it's called something else.

Three songs that should not be covered:

1. Night Life (Willie Nelson)
2. Folsom Prison Blues
3. R-E-S-P-E-C-T

bold_n_brazen 03-31-2004 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
How do you feel about Pete Townsend's remakes of Who standards, like Won't Get Fooled Again?
Personally, I'm a Who purist. I like the stuff Townshend released that he recorded prior to it being recorded by The Who. I like Townshend's solo stuff, a lot. But his remakes? They don't add anything new, and don't even serve as decent homages to the original.

str8outavannuys 03-31-2004 12:37 PM
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Not Bob really nailed the differences in the two versions, and they really have different appeals. I like Dolly's better, but just because I tend to like introspective type songs more than the Whitney-type declarations.

I can think of a few other examples of interpretation really changing the effect of the song. Most recently, George on American Idol doing Sitting on the Dock of the Bay. In a sense he blew it (too energetic), but somehow he conveyed an interesting alternative interpretation. Also, Clapton's two radically different versions of Layla. And the Tori Amos cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit I mentioned yesterday is a transformation of a song about mostly about anger into a song mostly about depression (although both versions have undercurrents of each).
Don't forget Foo Fighters' Everlong. Both versions make me very happy when they come on the radio, in different ways. There's nothing quite like driving fast with the top down and having the fast version come on the radio. Crank up the speakers, and let's ride. AND I WONDER . . . WHEN I SING ALONG WITH YOU . . . IF EVERYTHING COULD EVER FEEL THIS REAL FOREVER . . . IF ANYTHING COULD EVER BE THIS GOOD AGAIN.

Good times. But the slow accoustic version kicks serious ass too.
I wonder if he's singing about Kurt (& Courtney).

Tyrone Slothrop 03-31-2004 12:37 PM
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Maybe this is a good female FB poll. Who else thinks two men screwing is hot? (Dualit, put your hand down.)
I can't answer this unless I know more about their socks.

bold_n_brazen 03-31-2004 12:39 PM
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Neither proud nor ashamed. Simply self-absorbed. Why are you surprised?
Color me not surprised. In my own self-absorbtion, I merely added a value judgement. I retract.

evenodds 03-31-2004 12:40 PM
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I love jazz and hip-hop too, but I chose the songs I chose (All Along the Watchtower, Layla, and Fight the Power) with that in mind. Even Coltrane couldn't improve on those.
Damn, how many talentless pop singers would we sacrifice if it meant he could try to reinterpret them?

I love hearing covers of songs, especially across different genres.

One of my favorite covers of the past few years was Mr. Bungle's "(Hit Me Baby) One More Time." Mike Patton rediscovered the crazy at the center of the song.

I went to an acoustic show a few weeks ago and heard a great cover of Lil Jon's "Get Low."

For songs I'd prefer no one tried within the same genre:

1. Use Me, Bill Withers
2. Anything by the Rev. Al Green

sebastian_dangerfield 03-31-2004 12:40 PM
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It seems like these days, the only music on comercials is down-tempo ambient electronica. I hear pop songs at the department store, but not enough to really make an impression. I don't think I go to too many bars or clubs that play Top 40 type music. Usually, if I am going out, it is to see a band. Even if just to a bar, it seems like tons of bars have a DJ spinning house music or some variation. It is not that heard to not be exposed to pop music. Like, everyone makes references to that milkshake song, but as far as I know, I have never heard it or anything else by whoever sings it.
I know zilch about mainstream "pop" music. I still haven't heard the milkshake tune. I NEVER turn on a pop station. Its junk. I thought the Strokes, Stripes, Hives, Vines, Libertines and their ilk would bring back new rock, but I guess their music is to urban and dirty for the Jesus Freaks at Clear Channel.

The Libertines' "Up The Bracket" is the best goddamned rock album of the past two years. Buy it.


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