uh oh
 

Are you spelling "google" correctly? Cuz' . . . here's page 1 of, like, 1500, on my search . . .


... is, according to TPM sources and sources quoted in this evening's Nelson Report,
where the ... of this, and you would be correct to suspect that politics, or the ...
www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/003778.php - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

Air America Radio | The Al Franken Show
... Talking Points Memo describes Friday’s Nelson Report, a credible Washington-based
tip sheet that focuses on politics, Asia, trade policy, and foreign policy ...
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Air America Radio | The Al Franken Show
... The Nelson Report is a daily political tip sheet and analysis written for ... Katherine
Lanpher talk to Arianna Huffington about the power of grassroots politics. ...
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CAIN: Issue: Collusion - Details of Source Material
... Rosemary Nelson Report Appendix D continued, [PDF File; 4641KB]. ... (2000) The Politics
Of Force: Conflict Management and State Violence in Northern Ireland. ...
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BAD ATTITUDES: Politics, War, Economy, Guess That About Covers It ...
... October 29, 2004. Politics, War, Economy ... Informed sources quoted by the influential
Nelson Report say explosives from Al Qaqaa are the “primary source” of ...
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Steve Gilliard's News Blog : Freedom is messy, it also kills and ...
... got out, but not released until today, when requested by The Nelson Report, State
Department ... of this, and you would be correct to suspect that politics, or the ...
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America's Debate -> Another Dropped Ball?
... The Nelson Report claims that QUOTE. experts were reluctant to say exactly how much
of ... Another told him, "You would be correct to suspect that politics, or the ...
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Morse Target
... of Samuels International and Editor of The Nelson Report, a respected ... of California,
Berkeley and did graduate studies in politics, developmental economics ...
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RConversation: Politics
... 07:52 PM in Politics | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack. ... War&Piece has exit
poll results from the Nelson Report also favoring Kerry. ...
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American Politics Journal -- Resistance Isn't Futile
American politics journal, ... Joshua Micah Marshall passes on an item from the Nelson
Report, a preeminent DC paper on foreign policy, that has grave, grave import ...
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Cool.

On Dec. 2, 2003, the Tucson Citizen published a letter to the editor that harshly criticized America's conduct of the war in Iraq. The following month, a group of local residents, offended by the letter, filed a lawsuit against the paper alleging "intentional infliction of emotional distress." The newspaper asked a local judge, Leslie Miller, to throw out the suit on First Amendment grounds, but she refused. Now, the Associated Press reports, the Arizona Supreme Court is considering whether to overturn Judge Miller's ruling.

Free speech problem, right? Lots of ACLU types up in arms?

Nope. Dead Silence.

( http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/ and then scroll down)

I'll add:

Worked in Foreign Affairs for Carter;

Senior Advisor to Senator Byrd (so, maybe bipartisan, since he's got that whole Klan thingie going for him, I guess; )

and, probably most damning,


A Berkeley grad.

ETA -

Oh, and:

"The President in other words has tied himself to the tracks; somewhere in the distance even he can probably hear the faint whistling of the next train; and when it comes to rescue, there's not much help in sight. As Chris Nelson of the Washington insider newsletter the Nelson Report put it the other day, "It is not too soon to suggest that the Bush Administration is imploding on all issues at all levels. Where is the good news coming from? Gas prices at the pump are not going down. The Fed is raising interest rates. Houses, cars and the jobs they create will be curtailed."

http://www.motherjones.com/news/dail...05/05_527.html

(Sorry - it was May, not Feb.)

uh oh
 

WTF? In the world where I live -- the Sun is yellow here -- simply establishing that lefties cite or quote a source does not establish that the source is biased or inaccurate. A lot of conservatives consult the phone book every day. This does not mean that the phone book is inaccurate or conservatively biased.

Good God, man. He made a prediction in May that proved wrong. Clearly he's a mistake-riddled hack! And you defend the Bush Administration's statements about Iraqi WMD. Amazing.

Lordy, man. I make a post with a bunch of stuff about Nelson. You say you can't find any such stuff. I start citing it to show you that, yes, it's there. You take one cite, and say, geez, one problem?

(P.S. In an unrelated matter, I note that Leahy's own experts yesterday agreed that the Geneva Convention would NOT apply to captured Al Queda members. I bet the oh-so-pleasant Leahy ripped them new ones following that hearing.)

Wow
 

A truly horrifying article from TNR that I somehow missed a few months ago - one that opines that taxing higher income types at 90% actually helps them achieve a better, happier life, as they are relieved from the constant stress induced by having to make all those horrible spending decisions:

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=RWWY...023bb236246010

I have reconsidered. I am now in favor of political assassination and torture.

A Dallasite against spending a lot of money for a party?
 

Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks, is suggesting that Bush cancel all of the inauguration parties and give money to charity insteady*:


*NOTE: This blog entry was written on December 31, before the US upped its pledge from $35mm to $350mm. I agree that it's a bit déclassé to spend more on inaguration parties than disaster relief.

A Dallasite against spending a lot of money for a party?
 

How much does he pay his starting center?

Get Fucking Over It
 

Why can't we just do internet voting? Would that relieve your issues

Beggars can't be choosers

Or Maybe You Can Use That Bomb of Yours
 

Even better, let's let the rich people torture him for fun.

Such sacrilege, suggesting that the net good in the world may be increased by 20 kids getting a college education rather than one rich dude spending his time shopping (let's see, maybe a blond for summer! to go with my yacht).

enlightened government
 

the Mexican Government is publishing a guide to assist in safely sneaking into the US.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143433,00.html


http://www.foxnews.com/images/149684...immigrants.jpg
The guide features illustrations and practical advice for how to enter the U.S. illegally and survive the journey on foot.

I'm sure the Bush administration- if it ran Mexico- would be urging abstinence from entering the country illegally.

Or Maybe You Can Use That Bomb of Yours
 

"Net good in the world"?

Not my job, man.

Maybe my choice, but not my obligation.

Or Maybe You Can Use That Bomb of Yours
 

What the fuck is "net good" in the world? In your world, isn't good relative?

A Dallasite against spending a lot of money for a party?
 

Dunno, and I don't know how much he personally gave for tsunami relief. One hopes, though, that the tuna industry rethinks their "Under the Sea" themed inaguration party.

A Dallasite against spending a lot of money for a party?
 

would it be bad if the tuna industry just told SE Asia "Sorry Charlie!"

Hank- the un-PC.

In SF News . . .
 

Gavin is getting a divorce.

Anyone Catch Arnold Last Night?
 

1 word - bold

Reading Room
 

Ya know, I don't think this State Department official really likes the UN at all.

Why's it "cool?"

I enjoy chuckling at hypocrisy as much as the next guy, but I don't entirely follow the logic.

• From wsj.com: "The AP reports the letter "suggested American soldiers in Iraq respond to attacks on them by killing Muslims at nearby mosques." The plaintiffs in the suit are "fearful Tucson Muslims" who said they decided "to keep their children home from religious schools" because they were intimidated by the letter. The judge ruled that, in her words, "reasonable minds could differ in determining whether the publication of the letter rose to the level of extreme and outrageous conduct.""
  
  Their conclusion: "But how can anyone who believes in free expression stand for anything other than laughing these plaintiffs out of court? It seems the champions of the Dixie Chicks, et al., are interested in defending offensive speech only when it is anti-American."

Uh, the letter was critizing US forces and alleged that they're retaliating by killing Muslims at nearby mosques. Sounds to me like ACLU et al should've actively supported the newspaper, but their reason for declining (whatever it was) doesn't sound like hypocrisy because the speech wasn't "anti-American."

Or Maybe You Can Use That Bomb of Yours
 

Why do you assume I'm advocating the guy's position? I was with Bilmore - let's roast him slowly over an open fire for even raising the idea of redistribution of wealth. Want a weenie, Club?

Read it again. I think the writer was "suggesting" that American forces SHOULD retaliate against Muslims at nearby Mosques. Thus the letter writers' response.

Heh
 

Palestinians baffled as to why Richard Gere wants them to vote.

"I don't even know who the candidates are other than Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas), let alone this Gere," Gaza soap factory worker Manar an-Najar told Reuters Wednesday.

"We don't need the Americans' intervention. We know who to elect. Not like them -- they elected a moron."

Ah. The criticism of US forces were that they were not killing ENOUGH Muslims, instead of killing too MANY. My bad.

It's interesting that Bilmore believes that such a letter is the pinnacle of free speech.... but Bilmore advocates assassinating someone who writes in support of higher taxes.

Hypocrite, heal thyself.

(For the record: The Tuscon plaintiffs/judge are whacked, and the local ACLU should say that pretty damn loud.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your "post with a bunch of stuff about Nelson" had nothing damning in it. Unless you think it's damning that some lefties have cited -- you seem to be ducking that point because it's a little too stupid. Hence my crack about the phone book. You started out by saying that Nelson was inaccurate and biased, but you've shown nothing on either score.

Well, apparently he predicted in May that the Fed was going to increase interest rates. So that's a telling point.

Really? That's interesting to you? How so?

I'll try this one last time.

You quote Nelson, who, using only those mysterious nameless sources, tells us that Bush doesn't even allow anyone to tell him bad news. You vouch for Nelson.

I say, wait, Nelson is not the paragon of unbiased and stunningly accurate information that you seem to imply - he is the darling of the liberal blogs, he pretty much just says things that are very critical of Bush, and he's not known for stunning insight. Josh calls him "our friend." I mention "implode".

You say, wait, none of those things exist on gooooogle. And I can't find any link to "Nelson Report" and "implode".

I say, wait, try "google", instead, 'cuz here's a bunch of those entries. Oh, and here's the post about "implode".

Sidd, insightful as always, says "oh, so he inaccurately forecast a rate hike? Boy, Bilmore, what a dummy you are."

You say I've found nothing damning about Nelson. You've misconstrued my thrust. I was damning your vouching for unattributed garbage.

As I said, hypocrite, heal thyself.

I assume it's not your view that we all should rise up to protect free speech only when it advocates killing more Muslims, of course.

Not me. My Charlie poet having been ignored, and on this, the boringest day in PB history, I thought it appropriate to make a somber announcement. I have given it a lot of thought and have decided to retire from the internet-style Lawtalker lawyer chatting boards. I've learned a lot, I've laughed a lot, but ultimately, I believe it is time to move on. I will miss sharing my musical and grammatical insights and getting updated daily about who is sick and with what disease they have been stricken. And I will always have sweet memories of Friday Flame Wars and Juan the Marine. Thanks to everyone for everything.

Peace out.

Hank Chinaski

Did I say "dummy"? Nope.*

I simply wondered how a quote by someone, the central point of which was to predict something that did in fact happen (and that was pretty obvious to everyone), shows the person not to be credible.




*Of course, is someone is posting at midnight about the merits or lack of merits of a blogger, res ipsa loquitor. But I didn't say it.

FWIW, from personal experience I can tell you that the Arizona CLU can be remarkably slow to respond to pretty offensive situations, for whatever reason. Maybe they're all reptiles and get lethargic in the winter (hi Shapey!).

Wow. You didn't get it at all. That's sort of surpr . . . .

No, it's not. Nevermind.

Anyone Catch Arnold Last Night?
 

I thought the boldest thing about it was his continued use of the term "special interests" to mean "anyone who doesn't give money to him or his ballot measures."

I'm curious. Do you see his governorship as a success at this point? I don't really see that he's done much, but maybe I'm reading the Chron too much.

This has to be tough to read in a newspaper article, even one that begins with high praise of you as the likely deputy SecSt:http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-zoellick7jan07,1,6527556.story?coll=la-news-a_section

I love imagining W doing the Seinfeld "hellooooo Newman" to this guy. Part of me wants to think Bush dislikes him because Zoellick is, you know, capable and book smart, but my sources on Bush's disposition are notably suspect.

Anyone Catch Arnold Last Night?
 

Club is willing to overlook the continued Gray Davis-like budgetary tricks because Arnold is a Republican and gives a good speech.

Once again, heal thyself. Or at least see the humor in your own contradictions, when you are busy pointing out the humor in someone else's.

Anyone Catch Arnold Last Night?
 

No, I agree with him when he says that all we've (read he) done so far is stop the bleeding with last years debt restructuring. His proposal is necessary and bold (for a politician), and I actually think it has a good chance of passing, mostly because there is no other politician in the state that has any where near the stature he does.

To Larry, I think he has taken some necessary steps thus far. Too early to say whether his term has been successful.