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And I'm on moratorium because of little Max- update Peanut had grade 1 cancer in one tumor but they think they got it all.

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How did you make it through law school?

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There was more liquor then.

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No. My argument is this (and this is really going to be the end of it for me.

1. Government requires a certain amount of revenue to function.

2. Since it requires a given amount of revenue, it is more sensible and equitable to take a portion of that revenue from dead people with very large amounts of wealth, since that means the government can then take less from living people who need to use the money they earn to live.

3. Those who claim that the estate tax is socialism and unjust are ignoring the fact that it has been around for as long as property rights, or they are dissembling because to argue socialism isounds better than saying "we're rich, fuck you."

4. All I'm doing is calling bullshit on the people who say that the estate tax is socialism. That, and saying to them as well "fuck me, buddy? Fuck you."

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I'm happy for you and Peanut. I'll keep him in my prayers.

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God doesn't listen to the prayers of Socialists. ;)

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does the advent of sperm banks make a transfer "to my children" void under the Rule against Perpetuities?

Define a criminal legal system for Jupiter- the increased gravity will make items much heavier- should that increase or decrease the sanction against theft of property?

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At least Lenin, Mao and Castro had the courge to admit wht they were and take to the streets in defense of their screwy ideas. YOu pretend yoiu arent' one of them and you try to rear-guard your oppression on us with tax codes. Whose zooming whom?

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Seriously, you had to be drunk all the time in law school to put up with this dreck.

You mean - some people weren't?

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Or Jews. I guess I'm twice-screwed.

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Odd that your views are more in line with our Puritan forfathers than others on this board.

From a Puritan perspective, estate taxes are good because they tax free money. Not to the decedent, of course, but then again s/he's dead and his wealth is now determined by the stregth of his morals, not his business accumen. But to the heirs, it's money not earned. Money not earned is corrupting, and causes shiftlessness. Money earned is reflective of upstanding morality. Better - if one must tax - to tax money that corrupts than money rightfully earned by the sweat of the brow, as these earnings are righteous, and indicative of one's moral strength.

(A perspective which also allows one to not have very much pity on the poor - if one is poor, it must be due to a moral failing.)

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Take it to the Tax Board.

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Unless you have a confiscatory tax on estates, people who aren't poor aren't necessarily morally good. So just assume everyone is bad.

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I never ever come here, but for once I felt compelled to post on a political topic because I just feel that what we did to that al-Zarqawi guy is fucked up. I'm not saying he was a model world citizen or anything, but this was just an out-and-out assassination, which is 1) against the Geneva Convention, and 2) contrary to the moral code of any civilized society. Where do we get off? Seriously. Anyhoo, just my two cents. YMMV. Thanks for playing.

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I see there are good reasons why you never ever come here.

S_A_M

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Oooh, was that a burn? Nice burn!

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Ironsped was right, for once.

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2. All the press is about Zarqawi but we also killed a woman and child. Their crimes? Still upright people like Ty have been calling for killing Zarqawi for years now, so maybe it's okay. Really it's over my head.

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Yeah, we can kill whomever we want. Because we're the fucking U S of A. We make the judgments about who is bad enough to die, and who may live. At least we have leaders like Bush and Clinton, with firm and unwavering moral compasses, leading us in this decisionmaking process. Because it is a serious business, being God and all. I wiped my ass with the Geneva convention today after a particularly runny shit. Not even good for that.

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Listen, I know a shared Penske-Paigow-Shapeshifter-Ih8edjfkjr sock when I see one, and if you think I am going to dignify this idiocy with a response, you are sadly, sadly, sadly mistaken.

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WHatever you have to tell yourself to get you through your miserable life.

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This is nothing new. Admiral Yamamoto, 1943. Anyway, I won't cry for him, but it seems a bit unseemly for the president to be boasting about it on live tv this morning. And will it change things much in Iraq? I hope so, but things didn't seem to get better after Saddam was pulled out of his hole.

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I often question whether the board really needs the Hank chinaski sock- ultimately, and if only to set a low bar, I feel I am useful. but the question of how many tribute socks I should attract is a legitimate point of debate. this new SS sock is valuable, certainly- he's breathing new life into a somewhat tired franchise, but perhaps we should turn down future requests for new Hank tribute socks? just my 2 bits!

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QED.

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If I were capable of feeling emotions about you, I would weep for the banality of your existence. I mean you in an ambiguous sense, as it pertains to potential plurality.

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Too bad the government passed up the chance to kill him in 2002, but they needed him then to make the case for war.

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Of all the posters here, you should worry about the death tax most of all...

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Take it to the Mz_Maude - Penske Board.

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Dear Ty:

Can the Dems pull it together enough in the next 2 years to win a few houses and assure us of [necessary] financial gridlock again [like those salad, Clinton years], or are those assholes going to put up an unelectable [see Mondale/Dukakis/Gore/Kerry/Clintine] person yet again?

Love me, LOVE ME, love me -- I'm a liberal.
 

I have the vague feeling that I have just been insulted.

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See Bob, this is why you just post here but they gave Ty the keys. Not Bob, Super Mod sez: Actually, Hank, I have keys here, too.

You cannot say "killing Zarqawi probably won't help." Because, you still have to be able to say "invading Iraq moved the troops we would have had in Afghanistan, and we otherwise would have killed Osama."

Your way the shell game falls down. If killing a leader doesn't mean much, you can't get on W for the Osama is still alive thing.

Better to go with Ty's "Zarqawi should have been killed 4 years ago." If someone points out that Osama was offered up to us by Sudan 10 years ago, but Clinton had a boner that day, so he couldn't act on THAT offer, well sit back and let Ty get some blogs-answers going.

edited by Not Bob because he can.

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That's an excellent question. Although it's hard to call Gore unelectable when he won the popular vote and would have won Florida if, e.g., Palm Beach voters had been able to figure out the ballot.

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8 years ago- and he also needed to have CBS tell the panhandle not to bother voting. Today he'd maybe not do so well? rambling insane rants tend to drive away the swing vote. Gore has shown everyone just how lucky we were.

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Sorry, but is today's reason for the war in Iraq that we were going in to get Zarkawi, like the reason for invading Afghanistan was to get Osama? Does this mean the Mission has been Accomplished? I'm just trying to keep up so I can celebrate when we win.

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when the FBI kicks in your front door, and you feel the jack boot on your neck and the cuffs locking on your wrists- that's when I call victory. Like you guys did with Elian.

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You better move fast. Chuck Schumer is cleaning his sniper rifle right now and he's got a message for you and all your fascist friends. Right. Between. The. Eyes.

http://www.destgulch.com/images/jack03.jpg

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Let me clarify: I don't think that killing/capturing Osama would eliminate all terrorism, either. But he planned 9-11, and (unless I am missing something), Zarqawi wasn't involved in it.

Is the death of Zarqawi going to disrupt terrorist and insurgent activity in Iraq? Sure. I mean, I'm not an expert, but I'd agree that it probably will. Will it eliminate it? No. Is it a good thing (in the sense of retribution, justice, etc.)? Sure.

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We win when we get the Iraqi oil spigot going and gas price dropping. We're holding back Iraqi oil production right now, or are lying about how much oil we're sucking out of Iraq for some odd reason I can't figure out right now.

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So, elling reporters that the government is using warrantless wiretapping on phone calls is a gross breach of state secrets, but telling reporters that we have an informant in the "inner circle" of Zarqawi's group is a-ok.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/09/wo...rtner=homepage

• According to a Pentagon official, the Americans finally got one. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the raid are classified, said that an Iraqi informant inside Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia provided the critical piece of intelligence about Mr. Rahman's meeting with Mr. Zarqawi. The source's identity was not clear — nor was it clear how that source was able to pinpoint Mr. Zarqawi's location without getting killed himself.
  
  "We have a guy on the inside who led us directly to Zarqawi," the official said.
  
  In a news release on Thursday morning, American military commanders hinted strongly that a member of Mr. Zarqawi's inner circle had pointed the way. "Tips and intelligence from Iraqi senior leaders from his network led forces to al-Zarqawi," the release said.
  
  

The Frame
 

Why, by the way, was that big picture of Zarqawi's head placed in a gilded frame? I'm glad he's dead and all, but are we hanging that sucker in the East Room or something?