LawTalkers - The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

Originally posted by Spanky
Not all the people voted for these yahoos. Many are as responsible for these officials as you are responsible for Tom Delay and George W. Bush. And the companys we were talking about just have their headquarters there. They have people working for them all over the country. You need to go directly after the politicians.

The only way to successfully go after polticians outside of your own jurisdiction is to hurt the people who put them in office. If you make it too costly for the people in South Dakota to vote for the people they put in office, they will elect other representatives. At least that's the theory, And it's better than buying smear ads.

sgtclub

03-06-2006 12:01 PM

I Bet The Drop in Ear Piercings is Higher

For all the passions they generate, laws that require minors to notify their parents or get permission to have an abortion do not appear to have produced the sharp drop in teenage abortion rates that some advocates hoped for, an analysis by The New York Times shows.

The analysis, which looked at six states that introduced parental involvement laws in the last decade and is believed to be the first study to include data from years after 1999, found instead a scattering of divergent trends.

For instance, in Tennessee, the abortion rate went down when a federal court suspended a parental consent requirement, then rose when the law went back into effect. In Texas, the rate fell after a notification law went into effect, but not as fast as it did in the years before the law. In Virginia, the rate barely moved when the state introduced a notification law in 1998, but fell after the requirement was changed to parental consent in 2003.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/06/na...gewanted=print

sgtclub

03-06-2006 12:04 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Monday that colleges that accept federal money must allow military recruiters on campus, despite university objections to the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays.

Justices rejected a free-speech challenge from law schools and their professors who claimed they should not be forced to associate with military recruiters or promote their campus appearances.

Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the court, said that the campus visits are an effective military recruiting tool.

"A military recruiter's mere presence on campus does not violate a law school's right to associate, regardless of how repugnant the law school considers the recruiter's message," he wrote.

sebastian_dangerfield

03-06-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub [list] WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Monday that colleges that accept federal money must allow military recruiters on campus, despite university objections to the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays.

Justices rejected a free-speech challenge from law schools and their professors who claimed they should not be forced to associate with military recruiters or promote their campus appearances.

Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the court, said that the campus visits are an effective military recruiting tool.

"A military recruiter's mere presence on campus does not violate a law school's right to associate, regardless of how repugnant the law school considers the recruiter's message," he wrote.[list]

Who cares? Only the clinically insane will sign up nowadays anyway. Even those in abject poverty know welfare beats jacking off in a tent in 112 degree heat and risking having your cap blasted into a pile of mush.

sgtclub

03-06-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Who cares? Only the clinically insane will sign up nowadays anyway. Even those in abject poverty know welfare beats jacking off in a tent in 112 degree heat and risking having your cap blasted into a pile of mush.

Seems to me to be a push, but you get paid for doing the time in the ME.

baltassoc

03-06-2006 12:18 PM

You have to give the Administration credit for their timing: I'm just too tired of all the crap to do more than note the fact that many the detainees at Guantanamo are being held on the scantest of evidence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/06/in...rtner=homepage

ETA: I see Sidd already posted something, and nobody else can get worked up about it either.

Sidd Finch

03-06-2006 12:26 PM

More Republicans for states' rights

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I don't recall saying I viewed it favorably other than on the basis that it created nationwide unformity in labeling, which surely reduces the costs of national food distributors. That benefit would exist regardles of the level of standard applied.

If that's the concern, it's pretty easy for national food distributors to accomodate it -- just apply the most restrictive/comprehensive standard. States don't prohibit you from doing more than the regs require, and it's not like some states say you must disclose x, while others say that you must not.

Shape Shifter

03-06-2006 04:03 PM

Time to Boycott Dominos (again)?

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Originally posted by Spanky
I belive you need to target the guilty directly. You shouldn't attack innocent people to get at the guilty. It is like murdering innocent American civilians to get at the US government. I also think the direct route is more effecitve, in addition to being more ethical.

What are your views on Iraq?

baltassoc

03-06-2006 04:09 PM

Time to Boycott Dominos (again)?

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What are your views on Iraq?

He said "target" not "hit." Sometimes collateral damage is a necessary cost.

Gattigap

03-06-2006 07:36 PM

18 Months

Barry Posen argues that the US is more a magnet for insurgents than a mechanism for stability in Iraq, and the goal should be to establish a political and military stalemate in Iraq through a variety of internal and external diplomatic and military threats, and scale down our presence over 18 months.

Don't know if I agree with everything he says here, but it does seem to have the advantage of being thought out.

sgtclub

03-06-2006 08:20 PM

FUCK!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Treasury Secretary John Snow notified Congress on Monday that the administration has now taken "all prudent and legal actions," including tapping certain government retirement funds, to keep from hitting the $8.2 trillion national debt limit.

In a letter to Congress, Snow urged lawmakers to pass a new debt ceiling immediately to avoid the nation's first-ever default on its obligations.

"I know that you share the president's and my commitment to maintaining the full faith and credit of the U.S. government," Snow said in his letter to leaders in the House and Senate.

Treasury officials, briefing congressional aides last week, said that the government will run out of maneuvering room to keep from exceeding the current limit sometime during the week of March 20.

ltl/fb

03-06-2006 08:28 PM

FUCK!

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Originally posted by sgtclub

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Treasury Secretary John Snow notified Congress on Monday that the administration has now taken "all prudent and legal actions," including tapping certain government retirement funds, to keep from hitting the $8.2 trillion national debt limit.

In a letter to Congress, Snow urged lawmakers to pass a new debt ceiling immediately to avoid the nation's first-ever default on its obligations.

"I know that you share the president's and my commitment to maintaining the full faith and credit of the U.S. government," Snow said in his letter to leaders in the House and Senate.

Treasury officials, briefing congressional aides last week, said that the government will run out of maneuvering room to keep from exceeding the current limit sometime during the week of March 20.

Whaddaya think they should do?

sebastian_dangerfield

03-06-2006 08:40 PM

FUCK!

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Whaddaya think they should do?

Go into workout. Elect Trump President. He's good with workouts.

notcasesensitive

03-06-2006 08:54 PM

FUCK!

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Go into workout. Elect Trump President. He's good with workouts.

He is good at creating workouts and he is good at getting himself out of them without any moentary exposure for the Trumpster and (the clincher) it would be a lot of fun to watch him in a pissing match with other world leaders who in his mind have slighted him in some way. Fun right up until the point that somebody pulls out the nukes or biological weapons, that is.

I'd love to see Trump and Saddam in a cage match.

Gattigap

03-06-2006 09:03 PM

FUCK!

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Go into workout. Elect Trump President. He's good with workouts.

True, but Trump is a fan of the negotiating school of thought that "if I owe the bank One Hundred Thousand Dollars, I'm fucked. If I owe the bank One Hundred Million Dollars, the bank is fucked."

Nice for screwing the other side in RE deals, but now I'm visualizing The Donald screaming across the table at Kim Jong Il saying "You think I'm joking? You pantywaist? I'll take my fucking economy DOWN, and then let's see where you are! Your population will starve without the trade the USA gives you, you pieceofshit! You're Fired!"

Not so good.

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