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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have the same thoughts on Obama, although I need to read up more on his policies. I also think it would be a huge positive step if this country elected a black person, although I'm not sure he can beat Hilary in the primary.

I cannot bring myself to vote for Hilary for a multitude of reasons, but I do think she is a smart, formidable politician, who has successfully made her on mark apart from Bill.

Rudi is the only one on the GOP side I could vote for, but something about him is just not presidential. But his positions are mostly closely aligned with mine of all those in the race.

I think McCain is basically a well-intentioned idiot.

Huckabee strikes me as a charlatan.

Hillary has 666 tatooed inside one of the folds in her thighs. She creeps me out on levels I didn't know I had. Rudy does the same thing to me, but not quite as intensely. And I love the idea of Republican pro-choice Papist running the country.

Huckabee's a temporary amusement. He's "Rudy" for the Jesus Nut crowd.*

McCain's no fool but he's burned far too many bridges for any serious party apparatus to get behind him. He's also too old. He'll evoke visions of Dole in 96.

*Of the Notre Dame football movie fame.

Atticus Grinch

12-12-2007 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
admit it, if you ever do have to choose between shia and sunni, you'll go to atticus for the pros/cons.

Shia : Catholic :: Sunni : Int'l Church of the Foursquare Gospel.

Tough call.

Hank Chinaski

12-12-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Shia : Catholic :: Sunni : Int'l Church of the Foursquare Gospel.

Tough call.

i've relatives that are jewish but they eat bacon.

Can i be shia but not get whipped?

Atticus Grinch

12-12-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Can i be shia but not get whipped?

Dunno. DOJ's making no promises these days. Can you stand to live in Europe?

Hank Chinaski

12-12-2007 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Dunno. DOJ's making no promises these days. Can you stand to live in Europe?

even LGFootballs isn't predicting the takeover will be this decade. Hillary will have the chance to enact walls again before we have to pick.

Tyrone Slothrop

12-12-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Can i be shia but not get whipped?

It would be foolish to think that conversion will change your relationship with your wife, but you can always hope.

Tyrone Slothrop

12-12-2007 01:46 PM

Hillary's defensive crouch, domestic-policy edition.

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The U.S. Sentencing Commission recently decided to (slightly) reduce the over-inflated prison sentences for crack-cocaine crimes, which are punished far more severely than equivalent powder-cocaine crimes—an illogical disparity that does little but needlessly bloat our prisons. Then, yesterday, the commission voted unanimously to apply those reduced sentences retroactively, affecting some 20,000 current inmates. It's a modest chink in the incarceration state, but hey, it's something.

Now, Barack Obama had favored making the guidelines retroactive—after all, if crack penalties were absurdly high, then they were absurdly high for people already convicted. But Hillary Clinton, quaking at the thought of Rudy Giuliani saying mean things about her, opposed retroactivity. And now her campaign is attacking Obama on his stance, although Marc Ambinder serves up some sweet, sweet caveats:

Campaign aides have said that Obama's support for retroactivity in drug sentences would kill him with tough-on-crime white independents. But the Supreme Court, in a 7 to 2 decision yesterday that included Antonin Scalia, endorsed the view that judges could ignore sentencing guidelines when handing down prison terms for distributing crack versus powder cocaine, and a Bush administration panel today voted seven to nothing to impose retroactivity.

It's an inspiring campaign theme: Hillary Clinton—to the right of Antonin Scalia on a drug war that's cost $500 billion with nothing to show for it.

Bradford Plumer at TNR

Tyrone Slothrop

12-12-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
McCain's no fool but he's burned far too many bridges for any serious party apparatus to get behind him.

Maybe he has too much class:

McCain knows perfectly well that his somewhat-softer-on-immigration stance is killing him in the primaries and still won't budge. ("He paused and shrugged. 'I don't want to be president that bad.'")

linky

sebastian_dangerfield

12-12-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe he has too much class:

McCain knows perfectly well that his somewhat-softer-on-immigration stance is killing him in the primaries and still won't budge. ("He paused and shrugged. 'I don't want to be president that bad.'")

linky

Good for him. He just got my vote if he makes it. The one thing I loath almost as much as social conservatives is the Lou Dobbs "pull the ladder up behind you" populist crowd. Fucking pack of Archie Bunkers if you ask me.

Replaced_Texan

12-12-2007 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Good for him. He just got my vote if he makes it. The one thing I loath almost as much as social conservatives is the Lou Dobbs "pull the ladder up behind you" populist crowd. Fucking pack of Archie Bunkers if you ask me.

Apparently Mitt Romney, with a flourish, fired his lawn company yesterday because they use undocumented labor. I wonder if he's going to also stop eating food harvested or processed in the US and stop eating in restaurants all together.

He certainly won't be able to find a place to eat or a building constructed here in Houston that wasn't the result of immigrant labor.

sebastian_dangerfield

12-12-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Apparently Mitt Romney, with a flourish, fired his lawn company yesterday because they use undocumented labor. I wonder if he's going to also stop eating food harvested or processed in the US and stop eating in restaurants all together.

He certainly won't be able to find a place to eat or a building constructed here in Houston that wasn't the result of immigrant labor.

If the American Nazi Party promised him enough votes that robot would grow a Hitler moustache.

I confuse Romney and Edwards all the time because they appear to have been constructed in the same factory.

Is it possible to find two human beings more shallow and full of shit? They make Hillary look human.

Tyrone Slothrop

12-12-2007 03:29 PM

too funny

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilit...4121945FD339}0

Hank Chinaski

12-12-2007 03:43 PM

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speaking of hypocrits, did you know Pelosi let people keep getting exposed to the horror that is waterboarding for years w/o speaking out?

Waterboarding: Congress Knew
December 11, 2007; Page A26
After three days of screaming headlines about the CIA destroying videotapes in 2005 of the "harsh" interrogation of two terrorists, it now comes to light that in 2002 key members of Congress were fully briefed by the CIA about those interrogation techniques, including waterboarding. One member of that Congressional delegation was the future House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1197...googlenews_wsj

Gattigap

12-12-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
speaking of hypocrits

With the well-established correlation between stress levels and intentional (and non-intentional) spelling errors employed in argument on this board, this is as good a sign as any that the primaries are fast approaching.

SlaveNoMore

12-12-2007 04:26 PM

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sebastian_dangerfield
Good for him. He just got my vote if he makes it. The one thing I loath almost as much as social conservatives is the Lou Dobbs "pull the ladder up behind you" populist crowd. Fucking pack of Archie Bunkers if you ask me.

Dude, there's a divide the size of the Grand Canyon between Shamnesty proponents like McCain (depending upon what day of the week it is) and foaming xenophobes like Lou Dobbs.

So it's not an either/or.

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