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Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 04-22-2004 07:04 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Yeah, as long as you can identify the phone to the right user. If you're in a crowd with multiple users, it might be hard unless you had really good eyes/they are savvy enough to respond with identifying info re: "I'm the small monkey flinging crap in the corner".
Interesting. I'm thinking of upgrading to the new Motorola V600 phone with Bluetooth and the cordless headset. Could be fun.

I've got a friend at the office who bought the new Acura TL with the panel display and Bluetooth enabled so he can voicedial his phone while its still in his pocket, in his briefcase, etc. Have to ask him if he's driving around trying to torment people with this...

NotFromHere 04-22-2004 07:10 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Yeah, as long as you can identify the phone to the right user. If you're in a crowd with multiple users, it might be hard unless you had really good eyes/they are savvy enough to respond with identifying info re: "I'm the small monkey flinging crap in the corner".
Sounds like you could really goof on a person. Like Hey, I'm the guy in the business suit with TM embroidered on my european cut dress shirt, could you come over and squeeze my ass?

So, if I had a wireless option for my HP PDA, would it be worth it to get the attachment?

Flinty_McFlint 04-22-2004 08:00 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Sounds like you could really goof on a person. Like Hey, I'm the guy in the business suit with TM embroidered on my european cut dress shirt, could you come over and squeeze my ass?

So, if I had a wireless option for my HP PDA, would it be worth it to get the attachment?
Depends on how much it is, I guess. My phone just has it. It is pretty cool to have a wireless headset though, and if you have a bluetooth enabled car like Aloha's friend, it's pretty cool too.

If you all are interested in bluejacking, you should visit:

http://www.bluejackq.com/howtobluejack.asp

Essentially, you should have a pre-prepared set of call contacts (instead of "Mom" you have "I like your ass" or "I'm made of cheese") so you can quickly and surrepticiously (sp) bluejack your target. I programmed, "yes" "no" and "I'm calling the cops" in my phone to cover all applicable responses.

Have fun.

Alex_de_Large 04-22-2004 08:02 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
But why would a random stranger even send you a message?
Not sure. Nor do I know who it was, and I suspect the other person didn't know who I was either.

Alex_de_Large 04-22-2004 08:05 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Depends on how much it is, I guess. My phone just has it. It is pretty cool to have a wireless headset though, and if you have a bluetooth enabled car like Aloha's friend, it's pretty cool too.
Having used a bluetooth enabled handset and headset for a while now, I will never use a wired headset again. It's a total fucking revelation, as far as I am concerned.

Shape Shifter 04-23-2004 08:53 AM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
But why would a random stranger even send you a message?
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communicatio...9152298,00.htm

Alex_de_Large 04-23-2004 09:52 AM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Didn't say it was a good idea Burger, just was answering the question.

As far as private conversations you can set your phone so that people cannot randomly find you, if you want. Mine is set that way (I just got a new phone, Nokia 3650, I love it.) There is normally an option that reads something like remain invisible to random users, or what have you. Just click it.
I usually just leave BT off when I am not using it. I find that it is a HUGE drain on the battery, over the course of a day.

NotFromHere 04-23-2004 02:42 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I usually just leave BT off when I am not using it. I find that it is a HUGE drain on the battery, over the course of a day.
So all you people have it on your phones - not PDAs?

Alex_de_Large 04-23-2004 03:17 PM

Toothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
So all you people have it on your phones - not PDAs?
I have BT on my phone, and also on my PC (via USB dongle). My current PDA (which I hardly ever use because of the great PIM features in my phone, natch) is without BT.

credit this 04-28-2004 01:23 PM

Scans on a wireless handheld
 
Sorry to jump into the discussion months behind the times, but there are a couple of misconceptions here.

1. Standard fax format (TIFF with CCITT-4 compression at standard resolution) takes only about 20-25k per page. It would take a while to download a 40-pager over wireless, but a 10-page fax at 225K is perfectly manageable.

You are dealing with 1MB per page only if you scan to pdf format. Sadly, that is what most of the office scanners are set up to do, but the size problem could be avoided (a) for all faxes received electronically, if your GP has a network fax extension, or (b) if the secretary is tech-savvy enough to convert the greyscale pdf from the scanner back to a black-and-white tiff at fax resolution. (I couldn't find any easy way to do (b) in Adobe Acrobat 6, but I was at least able to get it to save in TIFF format, after which I used freeware IrfanView to cram it back into black-and-white with CCITT-4 compression.)

2. AcidImage Pro, mentioned earlier, is a reasonably satisfactory solution for reading the fax on a small screen. (It would be even better if they would program it to take advantage of my Tungsten T3's "landscape mode" where you use the silkscreen area as part of the display and rotate the image 90 degrees). You can zoom in and drag the your viewpoint around with the stylus, which is good enough for reading, e.g., a handwritten markup sent by fax.

Bottom line, you can do faxes via wireless, but you need to be willing to go considerably beyond commodity technology like the BlackBerry.

Alex_de_Large 05-07-2004 05:20 PM

v600
 
I just got a Motorola v600 from Cingular. You can find more detains from phonescoop.com here. It cost me $150, after rebates, from an indy dealer with whom I have done business in the past. I've only had my hands on it for a few hours, so I can't say much, but my initial impression is: WOW! It's solid and beautiful, and has the best screen of any handset that I have ever seen. BT implimentation (with my moto headset) is terrific, too. I'll write a more thorough review after I've had it for a while.

Here's a pic:

http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWimages/v600.jpg

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-10-2004 09:04 AM

v600
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I just got a Motorola v600 from Cingular. You can find more detains from phonescoop.com here. It cost me $150, after rebates, from an indy dealer with whom I have done business in the past. I've only had my hands on it for a few hours, so I can't say much, but my initial impression is: WOW! It's solid and beautiful, and has the best screen of any handset that I have ever seen. BT implimentation (with my moto headset) is terrific, too. I'll write a more thorough review after I've had it for a while.

Until they get it to work properly with iSync, it's a non-starter for me, nice as it otherwise is.

credit this 05-11-2004 08:17 AM

T-Mobile
 
Has anyone tried cell service from T-Moblie (née Voicestream, née Omnipoint)? I'm considering trying them in the Boston area, where they are not one of the big competitors but claim to have a comprehensive network. I'd be interested to hear comments about service availability experience (anywhere) and customer service.

Thanks!

leagleaze 05-11-2004 08:31 AM

T-Mobile
 
Quote:

Originally posted by credit this
Has anyone tried cell service from T-Moblie (née Voicestream, née Omnipoint)? I'm considering trying them in the Boston area, where they are not one of the big competitors but claim to have a comprehensive network. I'd be interested to hear comments about service availability experience (anywhere) and customer service.

Thanks!
Yes, we got service with them about a month ago. The experience has been quite good, both in terms of quality of the network and the customer service.

This is in PA by the way. We are using Nokia 3650s, which have great sound quality and way too many buttons.

baltassoc 05-11-2004 09:16 AM

T-Mobile
 
Quote:

Originally posted by credit this
Has anyone tried cell service from T-Moblie (née Voicestream, née Omnipoint)?
I have T-Mobile and have been very pleased with it. Good price points, good coverage (except in southern virginia, where for a while there was NO coverage [dead phone] and now is still hit or miss -- but who goes to southern virginia?). In the Baltimore-Washington area, I've had Sprint, AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile, and have found T-Mobile the most reliable (but this is partially due to a change in time - everybody is better than five years ago - as well as a change in phone - Nokias always seem to get better reception).

Also, T-Mobile is the only one of the four that hasn't had a billing error. Sprint kept sending me dunning letters for my failure to pay my seriously past due account balance of $0.00.

pony_trekker 05-11-2004 12:50 PM

ATT Wireless
 
OK, for 6 months I have been getting a bill from ATT Wireless for $00.00. I ordered a phone and then canceled it. When I called CS after I got the 1st bill, after waiting on hold for 45 minutes, they could not bring any account information up with the number on the bill.

How should I handle this?

1. Send a check for 00.00?
2. Send a check for 00.01 and then ask for a refund?
3. Send back a penny in each bill?

baltassoc 05-11-2004 01:25 PM

ATT Wireless
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
OK, for 6 months I have been getting a bill from ATT Wireless for $00.00. I ordered a phone and then canceled it. When I called CS after I got the 1st bill, after waiting on hold for 45 minutes, they could not bring any account information up with the number on the bill.

How should I handle this?

1. Send a check for 00.00?
2. Send a check for 00.01 and then ask for a refund?
3. Send back a penny in each bill?
I'd go with (4) - send them a letter on firm letterhead demanding that they remedy the problem immediately and threatening them with a suit for defamation of credit if any mention appears on your credit report.

Better, yet, check your credit report, and if there is anything on it, skip directly to filing suit.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-11-2004 01:27 PM

ATT Wireless
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
OK, for 6 months I have been getting a bill from ATT Wireless for $00.00. I ordered a phone and then canceled it. When I called CS after I got the 1st bill, after waiting on hold for 45 minutes, they could not bring any account information up with the number on the bill.

How should I handle this?

1. Send a check for 00.00?
2. Send a check for 00.01 and then ask for a refund?
3. Send back a penny in each bill?
Sprint did this to me. I just kept ignoring them. They stopped after about 6 mos.

Alex_de_Large 05-12-2004 09:16 AM

v600
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Until they get it to work properly with iSync, it's a non-starter for me, nice as it otherwise is.
That's coming. In the mean time, bt file transfers work just fine.

Alex_de_Large 05-18-2004 03:52 PM

v600
 
After about a week with the v600, I am really happy. RF is EXCELLENT, the best of any GSM handset that I have ever used. Batter life has been so-so, but then I use BT all the time, so that causes much of the drain. Outlook synchronization has been pretty much flawless (constrained, of course, by the shortcomings of moto's handset software) using BT or a cable (bought for $0.50 on ebay, BTW). Plus, it's a badass-looking phone, IMHO, the most solidly-built handset I've used.



Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I just got a Motorola v600 from Cingular. You can find more detains from phonescoop.com here. It cost me $150, after rebates, from an indy dealer with whom I have done business in the past. I've only had my hands on it for a few hours, so I can't say much, but my initial impression is: WOW! It's solid and beautiful, and has the best screen of any handset that I have ever seen. BT implimentation (with my moto headset) is terrific, too. I'll write a more thorough review after I've had it for a while.

Here's a pic:

http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWimages/v600.jpg

NotFromHere 10-17-2007 06:33 PM

apple iphone
 
Huh, this made the local news, but has not spread.

Apple is being sued by the Center for Environmental Health based on a recent report by environmental group Greenpeace which found dangerous chemicals in iPhones.

The report found that the earphone wiring pieces found in Apple’s new mobile device contained high levels of “phthalates,” which are, “a family of compounds made from alcohols and phthalic anhydride. They are oily, colorless, odorless liquids that do not evaporate readily,” according to the Phthalate Information Center.
The levels of phthalates found in the iPhone wiring pieces were found to be higher than that allowed in children’s toys in both California and the European Union.

Here.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-19-2007 09:59 AM

apple iphone
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Huh, this made the local news, but has not spread.

Apple is being sued by the Center for Environmental Health based on a recent report by environmental group Greenpeace which found dangerous chemicals in iPhones.

The report found that the earphone wiring pieces found in Apple’s new mobile device contained high levels of “phthalates,” which are, “a family of compounds made from alcohols and phthalic anhydride. They are oily, colorless, odorless liquids that do not evaporate readily,” according to the Phthalate Information Center.
The levels of phthalates found in the iPhone wiring pieces were found to be higher than that allowed in children’s toys in both California and the European Union.

Here.
Maybe there's sanity:
  • there is no documented evidence of verifiably hazardous side effects resulting from exposure to phthalates

1436 10-19-2007 11:44 AM

A window into the weird world of Prop 65.

It essentially rewards watchdog groups for pointing out non-compliance. I suspect that is all that is going on here. Watch for Prop 65 stickers on iPhone packaging in the future.

I am surprised that Apple wouldn't already have tons of Prop 65 warning on these things.

Anne Elk 10-22-2007 05:11 PM

apple iphone
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Maybe there's sanity:
  • there is no documented evidence of verifiably hazardous side effects resulting from exposure to phthalates

But there are side effects -
Quote:

Another class of chemicals that showed up in high levels in the Holland children is known as phthalates. These are plasticizers, the softening agents found in many plastic bottles, kitchenware, toys, medical devices, personal care products and cosmetics. In lab animals, phthalates have been associated with reproductive defects, obesity and early puberty. But like PBDEs, little is known about what they do to humans and specifically children.
CNN article

That said, any downsides to the iPhone? I currently have AT&T/Cingular coverage and even though my plan hasn't changed in the 10+ years I've been with them, I have had problems with dropped calls whenever I had a non-Nokia phone.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-30-2010 01:08 PM

ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
WTF!?!? http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/s...ing/2010-04-30

I call bullshit!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-01-2010 09:40 AM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 422806)

Why is this surprising?

PresentTense Pirate Penske 05-01-2010 01:15 PM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 422899)
Why is this surprising?

Hope springs eternal?

Atticus Grinch 05-01-2010 08:11 PM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 422899)
Why is this surprising?

The fact that AT&T can't handle the traffic is surprising to no one. The fact they admitted it is.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 05-02-2010 11:54 AM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 422917)
The fact that AT&T can't handle the traffic is surprising to no one. The fact they admitted it is.

Any recommendations on which work arounds to use?

Atticus Grinch 05-02-2010 01:40 PM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 422923)
Any recommendations on which work arounds to use?

Yeah. If you need 3G access on your lappy, just have your employer pony up the $30/mo for a Verizon dongle.

I don't do this, but this is what I would do.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 05-02-2010 02:01 PM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 422928)
Yeah. If you need 3G access on your lappy, just have your employer pony up the $30/mo for a Verizon dongle.

I don't do this, but this is what I would do.

I want a free lunch. next?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-21-2010 08:07 AM

Re: ATT/Tethering/iPhones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 422930)
I want a free lunch. next?

Free lunches are usually low quality and bad service.

Icky Thump 05-22-2010 11:47 AM

Crackberries v. the iphone
 
So I crushed my iphone and want to wait until WWDC to get another one. In the meantime, I am using a work-issued blackberry.

The iphone slays the blackberry in every way. Pressing those little tiny keys, rolling that wheel around and not having everything in one device at my fingertips = not for me.

Battery life for the blackberry is much better though.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 05-22-2010 12:24 PM

Re: Crackberries v. the iphone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 424604)
So I crushed my iphone and want to wait until WWDC to get another one. In the meantime, I am using a work-issued blackberry.

The iphone slays the blackberry in every way. Pressing those little tiny keys, rolling that wheel around and not having everything in one device at my fingertips = not for me.

Battery life for the blackberry is much better though.

Also, no dropped calls with Verison, but I still suffer through AT&T for the iPhone. no offence.

Icky Thump 06-08-2010 05:22 PM

Re: Crackberries v. the iphone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 424607)
Also, no dropped calls with Verison, but I still suffer through AT&T for the iPhone. no offence.

I am crippled w/o my iphone. Internet is spastic on the bberry. Also no matter what I do, I cannot get my contacts and datebook to transfer.

Obviously I am waiting for iphone 4 then I will wipe my ass with this thing and give it back.

LessinSF 06-08-2010 05:30 PM

Re: Crackberries v. the iphone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 424604)
So I crushed my iphone and want to wait until WWDC to get another one.

This is now legal again in all 50 states after U.S. v. Stevens.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-08-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Crackberries v. the iphone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 425948)
This is now legal again in all 50 states after U.S. v. Stevens.

Yeah, but Steve Jobs prevents it. Except for Atticus, when he's in the can. "Fuck--I said front video camera, not rear."

Icky Thump 06-08-2010 05:43 PM

Re: Crackberries v. the iphone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 425947)
I am crippled w/o my iphone. Internet is spastic on the bberry. Also no matter what I do, I cannot get my contacts and datebook to transfer.

Obviously I am waiting for iphone 4 then I will wipe my ass with this thing and give it back.

Plus shit like being able to set appointments from emails automatically into Ical, then having all the info show up on the iphone is classic.

Gattigap 06-28-2010 03:36 PM

Re: Cellphones and Other Wireless
 
Via Sullivan:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...e2746970c-.png

Anne Elk 07-01-2010 12:25 PM

Help me back away from the ledge
 
The Siren of the 3G iPad is calling to me. I am trying very hard to stick to my rule of never buying first generation gadgets. That's a good rule, right?


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