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Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 07:17 PM

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are my Penske-style posts hitting the authenticity mark? Are they contributing positively to this board?

Spanky 12-01-2005 07:19 PM

California Politics is the best.....
 
This is why I love California Politics...... The Governator just appointed a lezbian, former pro-choice lobbyist, former head of the California Democratic Party as his Chief of Staff.

In today's Political Diary: Darn It, He Just Can't Resist Anyone Named Kennedy

Thursday, December 1, 2005, Wall Street Journal's Opinion Journal


An episode of the TV political drama "The West Wing" could never top the bizarre appointment Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has made as his new chief of staff, the top administrative post in his government. Susan Kennedy is the former deputy chief of staff to Gray Davis, the discredited, spendthrift governor whom Mr. Schwarzenegger replaced after a recall.

While highly competent, Ms. Kennedy's liberal pedigree is so extensive that she told the Los Angeles Times just last May she was first inspired politically by Jane Fonda's Vietnam-era activities. Indeed, on arriving in California as a young woman, her first move was to join the Santa Monica-based Campaign for Economic Democracy, run by radical activist Tom Hayden, Ms. Fonda's then-husband. GOP legislators are stunned that their governor could take the risk of so completely alienating the conservative activists he'll need to win re-election. "I can't convince people to walk precincts for the governor if he has appointed as his top aide someone who so admired Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden that she went to work for them," a conservative leader told me.

Ms. Kennedy is currently a member of the state Public Utilities Commission, to which Gray Davis appointed her a few weeks before he was recalled in 2003. Schwarzenegger adviser Mike Murphy insists that her conservative critics are playing "to a stereotype off an old resume" and that "she has been a free-market hero at the PUC." Ms. Kennedy herself told reporters yesterday she supported all of Governor Schwarzenegger's ballot initiatives last month, but no one can find any public evidence to back up the claim. "That's not the Kennedy philosophy many Capitol Democrats had known," Los Angeles Times columnist George Skelton dryly observes. Indeed, Ms. Kennedy told reporters yesterday: "I've been 25 years in the Democratic Party, 25 years slogging for candidates and causes I believed in and still believe in. And my philosophy has not changed."

But her new boss is sweeping past such concerns. "She's willing to set her Democratic philosophy aside and do the job and do my vision -- to be able to work together with Democrats and Republicans," he told reporters. He says that "95%" of those he has called are supportive of her appointment.

He must either be highly selective in his calling or those on the other end were being highly deferential. A longtime personal friend of the governor calls the Kennedy appointment, coupled with reports the governor's next budget will be chock full of new spending, "inexplicable and politically suicidal." A former Democratic state legislator compared Ms. Kennedy's appointment to the ill-fated nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. Still another ally was told by the governor that Mr. Schwarzenegger could find no Republican capable of doing the job he wanted done. "I don't know what's worse," the ally told me, "that he's either psyched himself into believing that or that he's convinced himself I would believe him."

The governor will now enter his re-election campaign with a liberal chief of staff who has no credibility with the GOP legislators he needs as a base of support for his initiatives. He will face one of two liberal Democratic opponents next fall: state Treasurer Phil Angelides or state Comptroller Steve Westly. At least his new chief of staff will be able to provide some insights into his potential opponents. She's worked closely with both of them. Mr. Angelides was Ms. Kennedy's boss when she was executive director of the California Democratic Party in the 1990s. As for Mr. Westly, his new chief of staff, Ross LaJeunesse, happens to have been Ms. Kennedy's chief of staff until last July. Before that, he was a top aide to Senator Edward Kennedy, who is Mr. Schwarzenegger's relative.

If Governor Schwarzenegger appears comfortable with all this, it's because he's convinced himself he's now covered all his political bases. Save for one. He's just forgotten the conservative base that happened to have put the recall on the ballot that made him governor in the first place.

-- John Fund

Spanky 12-01-2005 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
are my Penske-style posts hitting the authenticity mark? Are they contributing positively to this board?
They are pretty good but not as good as the original. Where is that bastard anyway?

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
They are pretty good but not as good as the original. Where is that bastard anyway?
He died.:( :(

Dimwit Democrat 12-01-2005 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
are my Penske-style posts hitting the authenticity mark? Are they contributing positively to this board?
they make it positively clear that you are a total dick, if thats what you're getting at

Dimwit Democrat 12-01-2005 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He died.:( :(
A good start.

Sexual Harassment Panda 12-01-2005 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He died.:( :(
He's BAACK!

Penske, nice to see you - I note your resignation lasted a little longer than Hank's.

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
He's BAACK!

Penske, nice to see you - I note your resignation lasted a little longer than Hank's.
it seems so. I stopped to read your PM and you beat me from my "He has risen" post. got to remember first rule is- PMs always come after posts.

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 08:36 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
They are pretty good but not as good as the original. Where is that bastard anyway?
http://wbrower.net/OBB/images/Ann_Coulter.gif
Spankster. Better?

Penske-style post!TM

Tyrone Slothrop 12-01-2005 09:05 PM

Don't tell me that flying is dangerous....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
The highways are a meat grinder but no one seems to notice.



Death toll from road accidents 390 times that from terrorism: study

The body count from road accidents in developed economies is 390 times higher than the death toll in these countries from international terrorism, says a study appearing in a specialist journal, Injury Prevention. In 2001, as many people died every 26 days on American roads as died in the terrorist attacks of 9/11, it says.


Researchers led by Nick Wilson of Otago University, New Zealand, trawled through a US State Department database of deaths caused by international terrorism, and compared this with an Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development database on road crash deaths among 29 OECD countries.

The study covered two years, in 2000 and 2001.

The authors acknowledge the widespread emotional, political and economic impacts of terrorism, but they also point out the enormous difference in scale between the two death tolls.

"Policymakers need to be aware of this when allocating resources to preventing these two avoidable causes of mortality," they say.
Hours late to the party, and no stp, but there is a well-developed literature about people's tendencies to assess risks poorly. In particular, people are much more concerned with unfamiliar risks than with familiar risks. The unfamiliar is scary. The flu kills a lot more people than terrorism every year, but we spend a lot more money addressing the latter.

If Burger already posted on this stuff, what he said.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-01-2005 09:08 PM

I'd be living in a sod shack, eatin potatoes, if he hadn't come.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
Still bitter that "Columbus Day" has become "Indigenous Peoples Day"?
Is Podunkville in South Dakota?

(If this is outable, please call your friendly local moderator.)

Spanky 12-01-2005 09:43 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://wbrower.net/OBB/images/Ann_Coulter.gif
This comment from Ann Coulter was just as irresponsible as all the comments about pulling out, or the constant mantra that we can't win or that we are losing.

One way we are sure to lose this war is if the people of the middle east see this as a religious war. If it is a religious war there is no reason for any of the citizens of Iraq to support us.

We can only win the war on terror with Muslim support and this comment completely undercuts it. This comment may have convinced one or many insurgents to join the battle and those insurgent may have killed one or more American soliders.

This comment gave comfort and aid to the enemy (in the propaganda war) and cannot be critisized enough. I agree with many of the things she writes, but this comment is unforgiveable and, if it was not the result of sheer stupidiy then it borders on treason.

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 09:46 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
This comment from Ann Coulter was just as irresponsible as all the comments about pulling out, or the constant mantra that we can't win or that we are losing.

One way we are sure to lose this war is if the people of the middle east see this as a religious war. If it is a religious war there is no reason for any of the citizens of Iraq to support us.

We can only win the war on terror with Muslim support and this comment completely undercuts it. This comment may have convinced one or many insurgents to join the battle and those insurgent may have killed one or more American soliders.

This comment gave comfort and aid to the enemy (in the propaganda war) and cannot be critisized enough. I agree with many of the things she writes, but this comment is unforgiveable and, if it was not the result of sheer stupidiy then it borders on treason.
before you criticize ann remember that Penske-style allows photoshop of false info into an image

Spanky 12-01-2005 09:53 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
before you criticize ann remember that Penske-style allows photoshop of false info into an image
I am pretty sure she said that. I think that is what got her kicked off MSNBC.

Is there anyone that does not think this is a completely irresponsible statement and sharply undercuts our efforts on the war on terror?

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2005 10:01 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
I am pretty sure she said that. I think that is what got her kicked off MSNBC.

Is there anyone that does not think this is a completely irresponsible statement and sharply undercuts our efforts on the war on terror?
penske probably would defend it, but he died.

Captain 12-02-2005 09:24 AM

POLL QUESTION
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
are my Penske-style posts hitting the authenticity mark? Are they contributing positively to this board?
I like having the warning on the posts. Please keep the TM mark.

Gattigap 12-02-2005 10:46 AM

Newsflash!
 
You know the holiday season has arrived when The Machine has stopped feeding on John Kerry's carcass after 12 months, and has moved on to other bogeymen with which to be victimized and outraged.

Today's edition: George Soros? Wants to ban Christmas.

And O'Reilly said it, so you know it must be twue.

Replaced_Texan 12-02-2005 10:52 AM

I'm a bad liberal
 
I cannot bring myself to care too much about the 1000th person executed since the death penalty was reinstated. He sounded like a right bastard.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-02-2005 11:14 AM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I cannot bring myself to care too much about the 1000th person executed since the death penalty was reinstated. He sounded like a right bastard.
The number is meaningless. It's simultaneously too low and too high.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2005 11:17 AM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The number is meaningless. It's simultaneously too low
I blame the Clintons.
Quote:

and too high.
I blame the Bushes.

Spanky 12-02-2005 11:54 AM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I cannot bring myself to care too much about the 1000th person executed since the death penalty was reinstated. He sounded like a right bastard.
I was watching Keith Oberman (sp?) and he pointed out that there was merchandise on the Fox web page that were O'Reilly Factor Holiday ornaments. Not Chirstmas orgnaments but Holiday ornaments. In fact every Christmas related item was called a Holiday this or that. Pretty funny.

Replaced_Texan 12-02-2005 12:03 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
I was watching Keith Oberman (sp?) and he pointed out that there was merchandise on the Fox web page that were O'Reilly Factor Holiday ornaments. Not Chirstmas orgnaments but Holiday ornaments. In fact every Christmas related item was called a Holiday this or that. Pretty funny.
Heh. The War on Christmas cracks me up. Dear god, people, do we have to fight over every. single. fucking. thing. Fighting over a parking space in order to go Christmas shopping is bad enough.

Spanky 12-02-2005 12:44 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Heh. The War on Christmas cracks me up. Dear god, people, do we have to fight over every. single. fucking. thing. Fighting over a parking space in order to go Christmas shopping is bad enough.
The problem is that you have four cable news channels that are on twenty four hours a day and there is no news. Communism and Fascism are dead or dying. The whole world is democratising and embracing capitalism. The political debates these days are over shades of Grey. The murder rate is dropping at massive rates.

They are running out of things to talk about. So they need to create these false crisis. Unless Global warming is true, and it turns out to be very catasrophic, once we pull out of Iraq these guys won't have anything to talk about.

Sexual Harassment Panda 12-02-2005 12:46 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
I am pretty sure she said that. I think that is what got her kicked off MSNBC.

Is there anyone that does not think this is a completely irresponsible statement and sharply undercuts our efforts on the war on terror?
To the extent that there is still anyone who takes her nicotine- and Chardonnay-induced ramblings as evidence of anything more than advanced chronic hypoglycemia, possibly having led to breakdown of the blood-brain barrier and subsequent widespread oxidative damage to her telencephalon synapses, then I think those persons would have to agree with you.

Southern Patriot 12-02-2005 12:48 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
I was watching Keith Oberman (sp?) and he pointed out that there was merchandise on the Fox web page that were O'Reilly Factor Holiday ornaments. Not Chirstmas orgnaments but Holiday ornaments. In fact every Christmas related item was called a Holiday this or that. Pretty funny.

Sssshhhh. We're trying to sell Christmas to the Jews.

taxwonk 12-02-2005 01:05 PM

Don't tell me that flying is dangerous....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
Eh, it seems to me there might be a genuine moral issue regarding deliberate attempts to speed the process along. But as Hank so cleverly points out, it was a long time ago and mentioning it means you hate everything great and good about this proud land. Of ours.
Now.

taxwonk 12-02-2005 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
are my Penske-style posts hitting the authenticity mark? Are they contributing positively to this board?
They're not quite as good as your Guernica or Gilligan posts for moving the ball downfield. As for accuracy, you really need a lot more Hillary. And Elian.

But we all applaud the effort.

p.s. Is this a whiff?

taxwonk 12-02-2005 01:12 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://wbrower.net/OBB/images/Ann_Coulter.gif
Spankster. Better?

Penske-style post!TM
Penske would have found a topless fake that gave her the tits of a 23 year old. Or Jennifer Aniston.

taxwonk 12-02-2005 01:14 PM

a simple solution?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
penske probably would defend it, but he died.
The old Hank would have accused Hillary of putting the hit out on her.

taxwonk 12-02-2005 01:18 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Heh. The War on Christmas cracks me up. Dear god, people, do we have to fight over every. single. fucking. thing. Fighting over a parking space in order to go Christmas shopping is bad enough.
A couple years ago, I gave my SIL Star of David Xmas tree ornaments and my sister a menorah with jingle bells on it.

Spanky 12-02-2005 01:34 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
A couple years ago, I gave my SIL Star of David Xmas tree ornaments and my sister a menorah with jingle bells on it.
What I love about the whole thing is that Jesus was not born on Christmas. He wasn't even born in Winter. The date was set to coincide with the winter solstice so that pagans would relate to it more.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2005 01:38 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
What I love about the whole thing is that Jesus was not born on Christmas. He wasn't even born in Winter. The date was set to coincide with the winter solstice so that pagans would relate to it more.
is Good Friday the actual day the Jews killed him?

Sexual Harassment Panda 12-02-2005 02:00 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
is Good Friday the actual day the Jews killed him?
Whatever day was the day after Passover at that time. I always thought that was a Saturday or Sunday, but that would have meant working on the weekend for everyone involved, including the angry mob.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-02-2005 02:11 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
What I love about the whole thing is that Jesus was not born on Christmas. He wasn't even born in Winter. The date was set to coincide with the winter solstice so that pagans would relate to it more.
When was he born? Given the calendar (at least the Western calendar) is keyed to the birth of Christ, why Christmas and new Year's day are not the same is beyond me.

Shape Shifter 12-02-2005 02:18 PM

10 People Who Didn't Die on U.S. Highways
 
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq

taxwonk 12-02-2005 02:24 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
is Good Friday the actual day the Jews killed him?
No. You fucked it up with your Roman calendar. Just like you fucked yourselves over with your mortal sins and Hell and all that other Papist shit.

We'll never go to Hell because we don't have one. Unless you count the Golden Phoenix on Christmas if you don't have a reservation after 4.

Replaced_Texan 12-02-2005 02:26 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
When was he born? Given the calendar (at least the Western calendar) is keyed to the birth of Christ, why Christmas and new Year's day are not the same is beyond me.
I thought that the western calendar is basically an adoption of the Roman calendar. It looks like there was a split in when the calendar started between December 25 and January 1.

I love Wikipedia. Hitchhiker's guide to the internet.

andViolins 12-02-2005 02:36 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
No. You fucked it up with your Roman calendar. Just like you fucked yourselves over with your mortal sins and Hell and all that other Papist shit.

We'll never go to Hell because we don't have one. Unless you count the Golden Phoenix on Christmas if you don't have a reservation after 4.
Sorry, I don't think that the poo poo platter was all that good.

aV

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-02-2005 02:49 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan


I love Wikipedia. Hitchhiker's guide to the internet.
Wikiawesome. But I still don't understand the answer (yours or theirs) to my question, other than perhaps "that shit is fucked up"

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2005 02:54 PM

I'm a bad liberal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
No. You fucked it up with your Roman calendar. Just like you fucked yourselves over with your mortal sins and Hell and all that other Papist shit.

We'll never go to Hell because we don't have one. Unless you count the Golden Phoenix on Christmas if you don't have a reservation after 4.
Golden Phoenix- who goes there? The food is terrible, and such small portions!


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