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Hank Chinaski 10-17-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
I'm with you on that. People say stupid and offensive things on this board all the time. I think I receive much more crap for it, but others disagree with that opinion. I get the huge pile ons, others receive spats or individual tiffs or fights.
The fact that you say pretty mean shit to people, combined with acting really hurt and offended when you get it back, just makes you seem so much a nuisance sock. You regret having met Thurgreed, but really that is the only thing that points to you not being a sock.

So anyway, I think the attraction is that people want to talk to you as a sociology experiment, since you are the reality of what so many sock have pretended to be. You're like a meteor from Mars or something.

patentparanyc 10-17-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The fact that you say pretty mean shit to people, combined with acting really hurt and offended when you get it back, just makes you seem so much a nuisance sock. You regret having met Thurgreed, but really that is the only thing that points to you not being a sock.

So anyway, I think the attraction is that people want to talk to you as a sociology experiment, since you are the reality of what so many sock have pretended to be. You're like a meteor from Mars or something.
I am an anomaly or an aberration? Is that what you are saying?

What I still am trying to understand is if I am so stupid, ignorant and dumb why would people even care what I post and whether I am humiliated or dressed down or whatnot? I'm supposedly stupid, ignorant mean dumb and vapid so who cares? Place me on ignore and be done with it.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-17-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
it sounds like you mean a son
Did the words "his" and "him" tip you off? Aren't you ever the astute one.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-17-2006 03:04 PM

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Ty told me that one of the (many) things that he likes about boxed wine is that they put the reviews right on the packaging. No need for websites.
Another of the many things I like is the nickel I get from the Penske Account every time Penske makes the boxed-wine reference.

edited to avoid irritating use of the passive tense

bold_n_brazen 10-17-2006 03:06 PM

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I am an anomaly or an aberration? Is that what you are saying?

I'm pretty sure he's saying you are something that starts with "a" but it's neither one of those.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-17-2006 03:08 PM

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Another of the many things I like is the nickel I get from the Penske Account every time Penske makes the boxed-wine reference.

edited to avoid irritating use of the passive tense
Wow. I'll bet this covers your entire wine budget.

I make this post so no one else has to.

patentparanyc 10-17-2006 03:09 PM

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I'm pretty sure he's saying you are something that starts with "a" but it's neither one of those.
Apple!

Hank Chinaski 10-17-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Another of the many things I like is the nickel I get from the Penske Account every time Penske makes the boxed-wine reference.

edited to avoid irritating use of the passive tense
does the type of wood the cardboard is made of impact the flavor? Is pine better than beech, or does it vary with white/red?

ltl/fb 10-17-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc What I still am trying to understand is if I am so stupid, ignorant and dumb why would people even care what I post and whether I am humiliated or dressed down or whatnot? I'm supposedly stupid, ignorant mean dumb and vapid so who cares? Place me on ignore and be done with it.
We lawyers, for chrissakes. Small (not in the size sense), mean, evil, cruel people.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-17-2006 03:11 PM

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I do have one issue that I would like to bring up. Namely, I am fine with not being vitriolic and trying to get along but I don't want to feel like I can't say what I want or feel, or that I am constantly censoring myself for fear of incurring wrath.

What I post may not always be pleasing to people. If not, place me on ignore and continue on. The whole point of this board is it is a free thinking, outspoken, blunt forum for which people can share their thoughts and feelings. We censor enough at work, with the PC police, etc.

Thank you for listening.
Look, we all have our problems. The problem that's caused you the most trouble on this board is that you criticize people all the time, directly and indirectly and you do it in a very judgmental fashion. That's cool. I'm guilty of that too. But then you lose touch with reality when someone posts something back.

When someone disagrees with what you said, you think you're being attacked personally instead of understanding that people are offended by what you said. And it gets worse because you can't separate a critique of an opinion you've expressed because your opinions are always based on something very personal to you, like your family and you can't see that people are really targeting the opinion and not you and your family.

Example: You criticized bnb for not working and then for being a bad parent for posting here during the day. When you were told that (i) she is in a position that allows her to pretty much do what she wants (meaning she can choose to stay home or work) and (ii) that posting from home from time to time doesn't exactly make one a bad parent, you thought everyone was attacking you and your situation instead of the dumb ass shit that you were posting. So, you got defensive and told us all about your great stay-at-home husband and your fabulous job and how wonderful everyone thinks you are at work and how great a set up you have at home. It's like you couldn't hear that people were disagreeing with what you said and that disagreement doesn't mean it's a black or white issue (i.e., we were not all saying that we choose her over you, we were saying that we did not agree with your initial criticism and your manner of making that criticism).

That is just one example, but you've done it over and over and over again with many different people. I can break down the most recent example with gwnc as well, if you want.

And really, I think the only person who has attacked you on a personal level is me and there's no need to re-hash the reasons behind that. Everyone else has taken issue with what you've said and how you've said it -- they haven't gone after you personally.

Long story short: Try to actually listen to what people say when they disagree with you and think about whether they are attacking you or your dumbass opinions.

TM

Spanky 10-17-2006 03:14 PM

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You got punked by Kelsey fucking Grammer? Please tell me you bitch-slapped him.

TM
No I just stood there dumfounded like a complete moron.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-17-2006 03:24 PM

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No I just stood there dumfounded like a complete moron.
You know what? This is a great response. And come to think of it, what the fuck would you do if Kelsey Grammer tried to punk you? I can't think of anything, really. Maybe something like, "I don't chase ambulances anymore because it hurts when they stop all sudden-like," would have been cool. But there is no way I would come up with that after realizing that Kelsey Grammer just punked me.

(Fucking Kelsey Grammer and his overconfident smugness.)

You win this round, Kelsey Grammer. You hear me? This round! But don't think I'm not just waiting for the next opportunity to come back at you with jerk-store-level genius.

TM

patentparanyc 10-17-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Look, we all have our problems. The problem that's caused you the most trouble on this board is that you criticize people all the time, directly and indirectly and you do it in a very judgmental fashion. That's cool. I'm guilty of that too. But then you lose touch with reality when someone posts something back.

When someone disagrees with what you said, you think you're being attacked personally instead of understanding that people are offended by what you said. And it gets worse because you can't separate a critique of an opinion you've expressed because your opinions are always based on something very personal to you, like your family and you can't see that people are really targeting the opinion and not you and your family.

Example: You criticized bnb for not working and then for being a bad parent for posting here during the day. When you were told that (i) she is in a position that allows her to pretty much do what she wants (meaning she can choose to stay home or work) and (ii) that posting from home from time to time doesn't exactly make one a bad parent, you thought everyone was attacking you and your situation instead of the dumb ass shit that you were posting. So, you got defensive and told us all about your great stay-at-home husband and your fabulous job and how wonderful everyone thinks you are at work and how great a set up you have at home. It's like you couldn't hear that people were disagreeing with what you said and that disagreement doesn't mean it's a black or white issue (i.e., we were not all saying that we choose her over you, we were saying that we did not agree with your initial criticism and your manner of making that criticism).

That is just one example, but you've done it over and over and over again with many different people. I can break down the most recent example with gwnc as well, if you want.

And really, I think the only person who has attacked you on a personal level is me and there's no need to re-hash the reasons behind that. Everyone else has taken issue with what you've said and how you've said it -- they haven't gone after you personally.

Long story short: Try to actually listen to what people say when they disagree with you and think about whether they are attacking you or your dumbass opinions.

TM
That's fine but other posters do the same thing all the time. For instance my post about Kelsey Grammar's wife was about her. Gwinc took it to heart however indirectly and posted something snarky. It had nothing to freakin do with her. hello?

And gwinc herself is always half jokingly saying "oh I'm mensa, I'm a model, I'm descended from royalty?, I was with a stanley cup winner so I perceive that as indirectly asserting her superiority on many levels, which translates into holier than thou.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-17-2006 03:25 PM

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http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52502

TM

Secret_Agent_Man 10-17-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's because you post stupider things, or things that are more universally offensive, than other people do.
This might be true -- I don't know enough to judge.

But I think its also because (as all of these boards amply illustrate), most people haven't moved that far past junior high, and we tend to revert.

[Now I gotta run before I get stuffed in a locker . . .]

S_A_M


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