Shades of Joe Biden
 

While I've been gone, you guys didn't talk about the "Bush's IQ is higher than Kerry's" article?

Sorry, I have to do all my posting for the day fast
 

If you asked me, I would vote against the current administration in - off the top of my head - France, Germany, Spain, Belgium and the Netherlands.

I'm not sure that the people there care either.

Sorry, I have to do all my posting for the day fast
 

Let's just put them all in the Axis of Evil and be done with it. (Except Poland.*)

TM

*Thought I would forget, didn't you?

Shades of Joe Biden
 

Didn't see it. Sounds like some of that Warshington fuzzy math to me. I suppose next you'll say that Quayle was actually a pretty smart guy?

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

I'll give it to you if you concede that the announcement of Rehnquist's thyroid cancer was a Dred Scott-style signal to the base.

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

Nope. In fact, the idea is absurd and I'm surprised that you would sign onto it.

As to the timing -- do you have blog cites to refute the reports that the Administration leaned on both the Iraqi government (for months) and the IAEA to delay reporting the loss and/or not do so at all?

Again, has the Interim Iraqi government said that it DID NOT send that report letter to the IAEA? Simple question, and you know Allawi would say it for Bush if it were so. What has McClellan said about this? Has anyone from the Adminsitration gone on record to say its a fake? it would not be hard for them to find out.

Plus, to make what you're proposing even remotely plausible, and even asuming El Baradei would ever do such a thing, the election would have to be far more heavily tilted in Kerry's favor and this "lie" would have to be far more important than 350 tons of high explosives.**

The reason that the IAEA functions reasonably well, and provides a reasonably effective framework for monitoring and/or disarming states of nuclear weapons is that its staff is composed of well-regarded neutral professionals. it is also a cooperative effort by its members. Credibility is its stock in trade.

I have never seen any reason to justify the antipathy of many of those on the right towards el Baradei or the IAEA. While they did not parrot the U.S. line on Iraq, it turns out they were right. We're working with them on Iran and North Korea, as well as the multitude of less prominent disarmament issues. Come on!

Not all foreign officials who fail to suck our collective dick are enemies of the Nation.


S_A_M

**After all, on the scale of alleged administration incompetencies in Iraq this is pretty minor, and everyone has known for a long time that the U.S. did not secure even key nuclear facilities promptly during the invasion.

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

I'm sorry to be late to the party, but how do we know the NYT story is false? Because someone on NRO said so?

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

Listen up, you motherfucking jackass.

I'm talking about the assertion/claim that the IAEA made up the report about the loss from the Iraqi Interim government in order to embarrass the U.S. and influence the elections. Nonsense.

Don't you pay attention?

S_A_M

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

I think that would only work had it been O'Connor making the announcement.

Sorry, I have to do all my posting for the day fast
 

Uh huh. Yet Iran has provided its endorsement to George W. Bush. Weird, dat.

• Associated Press
  October 20, 2004
  
  
  TEHRAN, Iran -- The head of Iran's security council said Tuesday that the re-election of President Bush was in Tehran's best interests, despite the administration's "axis of evil" label, accusations that Iran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and threats of sanctions for the country's nuclear ambitions.
  
  Historically, Democrats have harmed Iran more than Republicans, said Hasan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security Council, Iran's top security decision-making body.
  
  "We haven't seen anything good from Democrats," Rowhani told state-run television in remarks that, for the first time in decades, saw Iran openly supporting one U.S. presidential candidate over another.

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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

Pathetic.

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

I've been gone. Is this now "civil"?

;)

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

This question can only be answered by saying "go read the news sites."

(The alternate answer, of course, is "it's in the NYT", but that would be snarky.)

to the anal....
 

Whoops. They didn't find anything because they didn't look. Here's what the embedded NBC producer said about the "search" (emphasis added):

Amy Robach: And it's still unclear exactly when those explosives disappeared. Here to help shed some light on that question is Lai Ling. She was part of an NBC news crew that traveled to that facility with the 101st Airborne Division back in April of 2003. Lai Ling, can you set the stage for us? What was the situation like when you went into the area?

Lai Ling Jew: When we went into the area, we were actually leaving Karbala and we were initially heading to Baghdad with the 101st Airborne, Second Brigade. The situation in Baghdad, the Third Infantry Division had taken over Baghdad and so they were trying to carve up the area that the 101st Airborne Division would be in charge of. Um, as a result, they had trouble figuring out who was going to take up what piece of Baghdad. They sent us over to this area in Iskanderia. We didn't know it as the Qaqaa facility at that point but when they did bring us over there we stayed there for quite a while. Almost, we stayed overnight, almost 24 hours. And we walked around, we saw the bunkers that had been bombed, and that exposed all of the ordinances that just lied dormant on the desert.

AR: Was there a search at all underway or was, did a search ensue for explosives once you got there during that 24-hour period?

LLJ: No. There wasn't a search. The mission that the brigade had was to get to Baghdad. That was more of a pit stop there for us. And, you know, the searching, I mean certainly some of the soldiers head off on their own, looked through the bunkers just to look at the vast amount of ordnance lying around. But as far as we could tell, there was no move to secure the weapons, nothing to keep looters away. But there was – at that point the roads were shut off. So it would have been very difficult, I believe, for the looters to get there.

AR: And there was no talk of securing the area after you left. There was no discussion of that?

LLJ: Not for the 101st Airborne, Second Brigade. They were -- once they were in Baghdad, it was all about Baghdad, you know, and then they ended up moving north to Mosul. Once we left the area, that was the last that the brigade had anything to do with the area.

AR: Well, Lai Ling Jew, thank you so much for shedding some light into that situation. We appreciate it.

So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
 

You know better. You know that, at this stage of the election process, a shrill screaming lie that might connect with many ill-informed and poorly-read voters is priceless. Look how fast Kerry glommed onto this report yesterday - he understands its value. And, unless those same poorly-informed voters get the real news now, it will have worked.

So, yes, pathetic, but not in the way I think you meant.