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For 72 million bees? That's one shitload of Raid.

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Fear is the mindkiller.

Dictionary = evidence?
 

I enjoy that. Make the dim pricks work. If you haven't the shrewdness, creativity and savvy to stay off the damned panel, its best we keep you safely within the confines of the courthouse for as long as possible. You'd probably kill yourself with a hairdryer or choke to death on a hot dog otherwise...

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"Nuthin' cracks a turtle like Leon Uris..."

- Cletus

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Until my primary retired it was all same old same old and they all hated me, now they hate the imposter Penske socks.

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I forget- had Spanky started posting before you left?

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Penske material is dead!
long live i was Penske!

HEY LOOK AT ME!!
 

I am the Penske of my generation, without actually being Penske (he's retired) [sniff]. LOL!!!! Attention whore extraordinairre! LOL!

Look a funny photoshoppe 4 u>>>>>>

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...6/untitled.jpg

HEY LOOK AT ME!!
 

the last Penske wasn't the real Penske. he just picked up the mantle- like flag carriers in the civil war, or dali lamas. you're on the throne now my man!

BUT BUT. but you need to do a mirror image on your photoshops. P would never dog B.

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As they should, but you can still miss the damn things.

(To whoever asked, (sorry, Hank), yeah, spanky was well established before I "left.")

((I never left, it was just a long, long conference call.))


ETA the sorry part

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Welcome back, board-killer.

More maps
 

In the vein of gatti's previous maps on religions, here's a very cool site from the Modern Languages Association on distribution of speakers of different languages by county. Note you can pull up absolute numbers or percentages by county, and do either the entire US or individual states.

It can be a bit slow, but it's worth it.

http://www.mla.org/census_main

(I'm posting this on politics just because that's where the previous maps were. That, and at least one blogger affiliated with the National Review has claimed this site is a glaring example of anti-American bias at the MLA. Nay, an attempt by the MLA "to persuade Americans of their lack of peoplehood." Be that as it may, the maps are cool.)

ETA: % native English Speakers, by County
ETA2: Or not. The site won't let me link to its images.

Republican moderate revolution......
 

It's often difficult to decipher a George Will column, but in today's WaPo, Will disagrees with you, Spanky.

I think.

Romney
 

It is ridiculously early, and it's difficult to know whether it'll go anywhere, but Adam Reilly in Slate has an interesting historical rundown on Romney's dealing with Mormonism in past races, and a calculation about how he might tackle it this time 'round.

• Romney knows he needs to dispel these heebie-jeebies to win the presidency, so he's spent the past few months figuring out how to play the Mormon card.
  
  He's already rejected the JFK approach. ...[T]his strategy won't work for Romney today. As a Republican and self-styled social conservative, Romney's courting voters who want faith to shape government; he's got to be a kind of theological ambassador, playing up the good aspects of Mormonism and minimizing the bad.
  
  Sometimes Romney seems capable of pulling it off. In recent months, for example, he's done a nice job convincing pundits and the public that religious voters care more about core values than theological minutiae. During a February trip to South Carolina, a key primary state, Romney was asked how his faith would go over with Southern evangelicals. "Most people in South Carolina want a person of faith as their leader," he replied. "But they don't care what brand of faith that is … I believe Jesus Christ is my savior. I believe in God. I'm a person of faith and I believe that's the type of person Americans want." Romney's contention that the "brand of faith" doesn't matter is debatable—but if he keeps saying it, and enough people take up the mantra on his behalf, some skeptics might change their minds. Romney's hard sell is already working with the press: In a recent column on Romney's '08 prospects, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter asserted that "[M]ost just want a believer, regardless of faith"—a line that could have been penned by the governor himself.
  
  But Romney isn't always so nimble. For one thing, he really, really likes joking about polygamy—the ultimate Mormon oddity, and one in which Romney's family was directly involved. (According to the LDS Church's Family Search service, Miles Park Romney, Mitt's great-grandfather, had five wives; the church repudiated polygamy in 1890.) "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman … and a woman … and a woman," Romney quipped at the 2005 St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. He made the same joke on Don Imus' 2006 St. Patrick's Day show. Thanks to Romney's perfect delivery and the self-deprecating subtext—the tension between Romney's defense of "traditional" marriage and his own ancestors' history—it's a pretty funny line. But if you're trying to convince evangelicals that you share their values, why make your job more difficult? For that matter, why annoy your fellow faithful, who could be a big help in your presidential campaign but tend to bristle at plural-marriage humor? In addition, when Romney gets all huffy in response to Big Love-inspired questions about polygamy ("Actually, it's not a Mormon family. My church has long ago given up that practice," he lectured Chris Matthews), his own shtick makes it hard to take him seriously.
  
  What's more, there's a desperate quality to Romney's eagerness for approval from non-Mormon religious notables. In March, Romney traveled to Rome for Boston Archbishop Seán O'Malley's elevation to cardinal. It was a nice photo-op for the governor, who's sure to tout this trip—and his cooperation with O'Malley in fights against gay marriage and stem-cell research in Massachusetts—while courting the Catholic vote nationwide. But Romney overreacted, embarrassing himself with breathless commentary about what a big deal his Vatican junket was...
  
  The good news for Romney is that there's still time to work out the kinks in his spiel. But even if he ditches the cheesy jokes and learns to play it cool when he has an ecumenical moment, he'll never be able to offer Mormonism the defense it deserves. The LDS Church seems strange because it's new, which makes the human agency behind it especially palpable. In contrast, the passage of time has given the weirder aspects of other faiths a patina of sanctity. In a perfect world, Romney could point this out to any and all anti-Mormon voters, perhaps using some lighthearted religious banter to drive the point home: So, are you Catholics still praying to little bits of saints' bodies, or what? But now that Romney's a social conservative with national aspirations, such a move would be political suicide. Compared to Mitt, JFK had it easy.

No kidding. In places like SC, the Baptists even look at Presbyterians with a jaundiced eye. Most, I would imagine, wouldn't know what a Mormon was.

Romney should consider things like Big Love to be HBO's campaign contribution for helping push awareness of Mormonism into the cultural zeitgeist, but for many the learning curve remains steep.


Gattigap

Romney
 

I'm not sure lost Israeli tribes, secret golden tablets and translating the word of god out of a hat are "theological minutiae."

OTOH, I grew up in an area dominated by Baptists but with a significant Mormon population. They got along just fine. Better than with the Methodists and Lutherens.