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Tyrone Slothrop 01-13-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Not to defend the administration in any way, but the answer is probably that this happens all the time in DC, under both parties.
"Probably" in the sense that you are imagining that it might be true, and hoping that Dems have done this too? Cite, please.

Sidd Finch 01-13-2005 04:19 PM

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Ah . . . the PB equivalent of that old vaudeville routine:

[Shouting] "Hey, look over there!" (::sound of running feet: [exit, stage left.]

S_A_M

I refuse to believe that we are that cynical, and that easily duped.


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Originally posted by sgtclub
Not to defend the administration in any way, but the answer is probably that this happens all the time in DC, under both parties.

On the other hand.....

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"Probably" in the sense that you are imagining that it might be true, and hoping that Dems have done this too? Cite, please.
If you're going to co-opt my lines get them right, okay?

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap

I understand and sympathize with your rant, but remember that this is Bush's America, where the news media screws up and people get fired, and when the government screws up, people get medals.
We have had prayer meetings where we asked for it to be this way....

Tyrone Slothrop 01-13-2005 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If you're going to co-opt my lines get them right, okay?
"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

Ecclesiastes 1:9

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-13-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
You must have missed this: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/m...20050112.shtml
To be honest, I did.

But c'mon - that's the best conservative columnists can do? She spends most of the column whining about how she gets nasty emails (which are no worse than what she dishes), then ends it by saying that Punditgate makes her job harder. Boo hoo.

Actually, Dan Flynn does a much better job.

So, I see your point.

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

Ecclesiastes 1:9
So you don't believe in evolution?

sgtclub 01-13-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"Probably" in the sense that you are imagining that it might be true, and hoping that Dems have done this too? Cite, please.
I have read in several places that this was done in the Clinton and other administrations and, unfortunately, appears to be common practice.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda

Actually, Dan Flynn does a much better job.

So, I see your point.
There are many others, she just was the first to come to mind.

In general, I think the right of center bloggers (or at least those that I read) are pretty fair. I am curious to if the left of center bloggers will be once a DEM is in the WH.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 04:50 PM

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So you don't believe in evolution?
Not evolution again . . . .

efs

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-13-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
There are many others, she just was the first to come to mind.

In general, I think the right of center bloggers (or at least those that I read) are pretty fair. I am curious to if the left of center bloggers will be once a DEM is in the WH.
Rest assured there are plenty of left of center bloggers who would be at least as fair as Malkin is.

Sidd Finch 01-13-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
In general, I think the right of center bloggers (or at least those that I read) are pretty fair. I am curious to if the left of center bloggers will be once a DEM is in the WH.

The left media was merciless with Clinton. There is no Democratic corollary to Reagan's Eleventh Commandment.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-13-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have read in several places that this was done in the Clinton and other administrations and, unfortunately, appears to be common practice.
As I say, cite, please. For "this" happening in the Clinton Administration, where "this" is referring to paying ostensibly neutral journalists to cover a story in a certain way.

Replaced_Texan 01-13-2005 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As I say, cite, please. For "this" happening in the Clinton Administration, where "this" is referring to paying ostensibly neutral journalists to cover a story in a certain way.
Well, everyone knows that the journalists already have a pro-liberal bias, and the conservatives can't get a break from them, so of course they have to buy off one or two of them. It's unfair that the Rs have to pay for what the Ds get for free.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-13-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As I say, cite, please. For "this" happening in the Clinton Administration, where "this" is referring to paying ostensibly neutral journalists to cover a story in a certain way.
CUE: Hank, shouldn't you be changing the subject about now.

Sidd Finch 01-13-2005 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Well, everyone knows that the journalists already have a pro-liberal bias, and the conservatives can't get a break from them, so of course they have to buy off one or two of them. It's unfair that the Rs have to pay for what the Ds get for free.

How much did Slave pay you to post that?

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-13-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
CUE: Hank, shouldn't you be changing the subject about now.
There's a new picture of Lindsay Lohan over on the FB. He won't be back for a while.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The left media was merciless with Clinton. There is no Democratic corollary to Reagan's Eleventh Commandment.
Palease.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As I say, cite, please. For "this" happening in the Clinton Administration, where "this" is referring to paying ostensibly neutral journalists to cover a story in a certain way.
Armstrong Williams is not a neutral journalist. That's what's even more appauling about this story. They didn't have to pay him.

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-13-2005 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Armstrong Williams is not a neutral journalist. That's what's even more appauling about this story. They didn't have to pay him.
Why not just say you don't have a cite to back up your claim? Then we could all move on.

Sexual Harassment Panda 01-13-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The left media was merciless with Clinton. There is no Democratic corollary to Reagan's Eleventh Commandment.
Don't you remember how the press refused to cover Hilary's involvement with Vince Foster's murder?

Connect_the_Dots 01-13-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The left media was merciless with Clinton. There is no Democratic corollary to Reagan's Eleventh Commandment.
Merciless? flogged with a wet noodle (not a sexual reference) is more like it. Reagan had such respect for the oval office that he wouldn't take his jacket off while he was in it...Clinton had trouble keeping his boxers on.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-13-2005 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Why not just say you don't have a cite to back up your claim? Then we could all move on.
Club, if you can find the Clinton Administration paying any kind of journalist under the table to cover something favorably, I'll accept that as the kind of support you so far haven't been able to come up with.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-13-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
Merciless? flogged with a wet noodle (not a sexual reference) is more like it. Reagan had such respect for the oval office that he wouldn't take his jacket off while he was in it...Clinton had trouble keeping his boxers on.
Proof of the left-wing media's work to cover up for Clinton is that I have never heard this sort of thing said before, and don't even have any idea of what you're talking about.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Why not just say you don't have a cite to back up your claim? Then we could all move on.
I certainly read it. I can't find the cite now, but then again, I didn't look very hard.

sgtclub 01-13-2005 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Don't you remember how the press refused to cover Hilary's involvement with Vince Foster's murder?
Juanita

Effete Liberal Snob 01-13-2005 05:51 PM

Bon Jour!!!!!
 
Kerry to meet with French president
January 13, 2005

PARIS -- Sen. John Kerry will meet Friday with French President Jacques Chirac, U.S. and French officials said.

The Massachusetts Democrat who lost the November election to incumbent President Bush has relatives in France and speaks French.

Kerry's stop in Paris was part of a trip to Europe and the Middle East, the U.S. Embassy in Paris said Thursday. Kerry was also to meet with French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier.

The senator's office in Washington did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Connect_the_Dots 01-13-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Don't you remember how the press refused to cover Hilary's involvement with Vince Foster's murder?
How quickly did the press drop coverage of the $100,000 disguised bribe to Bill Clinton? Hillary (from reading the WSJ) learned enough about commodities to parlay a $1,000 investment into $100,000. Despite that track record she remained at her law firm instead of going to work for George Soros.

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As I say, cite, please. For "this" happening in the Clinton Administration, where "this" is referring to paying ostensibly neutral journalists to cover a story in a certain way.
Rather refused CBS News paychecks during clinton admin?

Not Bob 01-13-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I certainly read it. I can't find the cite now, but then again, I didn't look very hard.
Hiring Sidney Blumenthal doesn't count.

Not Bob 01-13-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
How quickly did the press drop coverage of the $100,000 disguised bribe to Bill Clinton? Hillary (from reading the WSJ) learned enough about commodities to parlay a $1,000 investment into $100,000. Despite that track record she remained at her law firm instead of going to work for George Soros.
How anybody who read the New York Times while Clinton was president could say that the "liberal media" went light on him while he was in office is insane. The whole Whitewater story broke in the Times (before he was president, actually), and the Times was the main media outlet responsible for keeping that story alive after the election.

And don't even make me go back and pull old Maureen Dowd columns.

Oh, and let's not forget where Michael Isakoff (sp. -- sic transit gloria, dude) worked -- Newsweek, part of the Washington Post family.

All of Bill's many sins were laid out all over the place. To pretend otherwise is just stupid.

Gattigap 01-13-2005 06:22 PM

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To pretend otherwise is just stupid.
Stupid?

Are you calling him .... stupid?

http://www.dvdessential.it/recension...omewanda04.jpg

Secret_Agent_Man 01-13-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
Merciless? flogged with a wet noodle (not a sexual reference) is more like it. Reagan had such respect for the oval office that he wouldn't take his jacket off while he was in it...Clinton had trouble keeping his boxers on.
And, as I recall, he took a little heat for it.

How big is that jar, anyway?

S_A_M

Replaced_Texan 01-13-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
How quickly did the press drop coverage of the $100,000 disguised bribe to Bill Clinton? Hillary (from reading the WSJ) learned enough about commodities to parlay a $1,000 investment into $100,000. Despite that track record she remained at her law firm instead of going to work for George Soros.
I'm not entirely clear on how federal dollars were used to pay reporters in the oh-so-sparsely-covered Whitewater scandal.

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
How anybody who read the New York Times while Clinton was president could say that the "liberal media" went light on him while he was in office is insane. The whole Whitewater story broke in the Times (before he was president, actually), and the Times was the main media outlet responsible for keeping that story alive after the election.

And don't even make me go back and pull old Maureen Dowd columns.

Oh, and let's not forget where Michael Isakoff (sp. -- sic transit gloria, dude) worked -- Newsweek, part of the Washington Post family.

All of Bill's many sins were laid out all over the place. To pretend otherwise is just stupid.
Reporting on the sins of someone like Clinton is unavoidable. The bias is a matter of timing and emphasis. Contrast the made up crap from NYT on Bush- or just look at how NYT didn't point out the CBS memos were faked until far too late.

Replaced_Texan 01-13-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Reporting on the sins of someone like Clinton is unavoidable. The bias is a matter of timing and emphasis. Contrast the made up crap from NYT on Bush- or just look at how NYT didn't point out the CBS memos were faked until far too late.
Again, grousing about liberal media bias has absolutely nothing to do with the Administration paying off news media to cover something favorably without disclosing the financial relationship and the source of the information presented as "news."

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-13-2005 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Reporting on the sins of someone like Clinton is unavoidable. The bias is a matter of timing and emphasis. Contrast the made up crap from NYT on Bush- or just look at how NYT didn't point out the CBS memos were faked until far too late.
Hank, it's about time, they really needed you. They're trying to change the subject from the White House paying reporters for favorable coverage, and no one else can use the words "Whitewater", "Hilary" or "New York Times" in as many lunatic, inane and nonsensical sentences as you.

So, tell me Bushies, why is Cheney/Armstrong Payola OK? Who are the "Everybody" who does it, other than the Red Everybody?

Why, Bilmore, Why?
Who, Bilmore, Who?

Hank Chinaski 01-13-2005 06:37 PM

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Again, grousing about liberal media bias has absolutely nothing to do with the Administration paying off news media to cover something favorably without disclosing the financial relationship and the source of the information presented as "news."
How come?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-13-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
How come?
Precious.

Gattigap 01-13-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
How come?
conf. to Hank -- "Rope a Dope" is a fun debating style from time to time, but take care not to make it your main schtick. People will either start to get irritated with you, or start presuming that this is really your best shot. See, e.g., club.


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