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I got some boots to go with my skirt this weekend. Donald Pliner.


http://www.donaldjpliner.com/collect.../boots/suz.jpg

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I think that this is the exact outfit the guy was wearing in the Mappelthorpe bullwhip pictures (NTTAWWT)

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Salic law is fairly interesting, though I've always felt that France's proximity to and regular alliances with the Holy See really limit its influence.

But to tie threads together, how about this piece of Salic law:


So why does the price go down if there are more than 3 men?

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Mmmmm. Plump succulent babies. Papa John's will deliver them if you give the secret code. PM me for details. I think they're running some sort of special right now where you also get free cinnamon bread sticks. Tasty!

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I was wondering this. I mean if you have 4 men and they have to pay 5 shillings each that is 20 shillings right? So until you get carried off by 6 men you aren't getting the same amount of money as you would get if you were carried off by 3.

That makes no sense at all.

Unless they figure a woman enjoys being carried off by 4 or 5 men, but not so much by 3, 6 or more.

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You think? Why not just glance at your screensaver and give us a definite answer. NTTAWWT.

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Rena Sofer and company have been cancelled --

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) -- NBC's freshman comedy "Coupling" reached the point of no return as the network officially canceled the racy sitcom Friday.

Here's a going away photo...

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV...pling.cast.jpg

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This may be a practical issue. If 5 men are involved, they are probably carrying off more than one and you are probably happy just to get them back, so you might think of this as a volume discount. But if they wanted a volume discount they could have done it that way (If more than one girl is carried off by multiple men....) But I'm hoping BRC has some answers, as the resident Salic Law expert.

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Damn. First PLF and now Coupling.....OH the humanity!!!!

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My son will be e-mailing you shortly. You are his new hero.

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Well, it's a fixed rate vs variable rate, so obviously the best value (well, okay, not value) is with 4 men. (Editted to add, scroll, then post)

The Salian Franks were interesting for trying to meld together two pretty divergent legal traditions: the common law-like laws of the northern Europeans and the civil law of Rome. I've always thought it intersting that everything has a price; almost as though there are only torts, and the torts have fixed amounts of compensation. Of course, the kicker is that if you can't pay the fine/award, you are placed in the service of your creditor, permenantly.

Trying to meld this concept with Roman civil law was definitely tricky, and not terribly successful in the long term, in the sense that for the most part the Roman concepts of law ultimately prevailed in the areas controled by the Salian Franks.

Even in England, were the concept of the common law survived, the concept of the weregeld (manprice) died out by the time the Normans took over.

And of course, the "Salic Law," that women could not succeed to a throne, undoubtedly changed the face of Europe for a millenium, as competent women were passed over for their incompetent inbred nephews and cousins, and giving rise to excuses for dozens of uprisings over the history of Europe. I've never found a reference as to whether the Salic Law was precipitated by the petty warfare between the Merovingian queens or a cause of instability when Merovingian women attempted to seize power. Thought, BRC?

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What are you Atticus all of a sudden?

Good lord people. I took* a class in Roman Law and Patrimony when I was in college and guess what that was boring too.


*Please note, took does not mean actually attended.

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Bitch, please. It didn't die out, it morphed. Fixed weregelds didn't work for long given inflation/deflation. Also, weregelds tended to vary depending on local practice, which meant that as centralization occurred, there was a need to show flexibility for often very different weregelds. And, interaction with the bot led to a more flexible approach than shown by, say, Salic law. Thus, the old law morphs and tort law is born (and so much more!).

In places like France, centralizing influences, canon law, and the like ultimately led to an emphasis on codification that replaced the old Germanic traditions, but in England they just morphed and developed.

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Not I, but I'll ask the Mr. He brought the whole thing up noting that women of childbearing age brought significantly higher weregeld than freemen (with some caveats about concealing the premeditated murder of the king's agents or something).

I'll bet it was some sort of an "unjust enrichment" thing - if you have a huge kidnapping party, you shouldn't all get off on the cheap for 30 shillings for the whole lot of you. Similarly, one family shouldn't necessarily be made rich just because a large group carried off just one of their women. A given woman can only breed so many children, and so has inherently limited value. I do note, for the record, that in practice this all really didn't matter - if you stole someone's wife or daughter, you usually got a blood feud regardless.