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Penske_Account 10-14-2003 01:08 PM

Dealbreakers
 
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Originally posted by barely_legal
I just found out that a guy I've started dating refuses to go see movies in movie theaters. He hasn't given me an explanation yet. He'll go to the theater to see plays, but no movie theaters. Assuming that he doesn't have a really good explanation, like that he got assaulted by a gang of prepubescent ruffians on his way out of the last Power Rangers movie, is it wrong for me to judge him for this? I'm judging already anyway, I just want to know if this will put me a different circle of hell.
Not to be presumptuous, but if you got really serious with this guy and got married and had kids, at that point, you never get the time to go to movies anyway, so just look at his behavior as an advance on the future.

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Originally posted by barely_legal

So, who wants to go see Intolerable Cruelty with me this weekend?
You treating?

ThrashersFan 10-14-2003 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I'd see it with you, but distance issues... Alas. Instead, I'll sit right next to you in whatever circle of hell your judgment gets you into, because I'm judging right along with you. Doesn't want to go to a theater??? humph.
This will probably work to speed up the gentleman's demise, but I too generally refuse to go into a movie theater and I don't see anything wrong with that. If I don't get a chance to see it at the drive-in I can always wait to see it on PPV or DVD. I was desperate enough to go and see 8 Mile at the theater and enjoyed it much more when it came out on DVD -- I was only able to sneak three beers into the theater and one of the empties rolled down to the screen and it was too packed and people were yapping, etc. etc.

Penske_Account 10-14-2003 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Easy one, this is. He is married and his wife goes to movies.
Or maybe someone once played the Mickey Rourke dick in the popcorn box trick (from Diner) on him. NTTAWWT.

greatwhitenorthchick 10-14-2003 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal
Fair enough, but that's an issue with crowds, not theaters. The movie I wanted to see will have been out a couple of weeks by the time we would be able to see it.

Does anyone here just refuse to go to movie theaters for any reason?
I'm curious as to why he hasn't given you an explanation, but has given many details about how he will actually see movies. So he has focused on the issue. Sounds like he is hiding something weird. Beat it out of him if necessary.

Shape Shifter 10-14-2003 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by barely_legal
I just found out that a guy I've started dating refuses to go see movies in movie theaters. He hasn't given me an explanation yet. He'll go to the theater to see plays, but no movie theaters. Assuming that he doesn't have a really good explanation, like that he got assaulted by a gang of prepubescent ruffians on his way out of the last Power Rangers movie, is it wrong for me to judge him for this? I'm judging already anyway, I just want to know if this will put me a different circle of hell.
Cell phones, uncomfortable temperatures, more commercials than the last 30 mins of Ferris Bueller on TBS, outrageous concessions prices, and unruly (possibly armed) crowds. What's not to love about movie theatres? Since getting the home theatre setup, I have to be really motivated to go to the megaplex.

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If I was head over heels in lust with him, maybe I could overlook this, but wtf? I love going to see movies and I can't imagine not being able to go see new releases with the person I'm dating.
Try going with him to the movie theatre that shows independent films. These are similar to plays in that they will appeal to the effette artsnob in him. If your town does not have one of these, consider moving to a town that does. It's like the ballet - even if you don't care for ballet, you'll be more comfortable knowing it's there

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He actually told me that if I want to watch a movie with him, I should tell him a week ahead of time so he can order what I want to see on Netflix.
This sends mixed signals. On one hand, it exposes him as a cheap bastard. On the other hand, it shows that he is able to delay his gratification, which may have side benefits for you. This is really your call on which quality you find more important.

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We've only been on a couple of dates, so even if he doesn't like movie theaters, shouldn't he be kissing my butt right now to get me into bed, and saving his weird-ass issues to tell me after the deed is done?
This, of course, depends on your tits.

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So, who wants to go see Intolerable Cruelty with me this weekend?
Seen it. But I am expecting a shipment of many fine dvds from Netflix this weekend. Care to come over?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-14-2003 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal

Does anyone here just refuse to go to movie theaters for any reason?
Yes. Outrageously priced food and drink.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-14-2003 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I was only able to sneak three beers into the theater and one of the empties rolled down to the screen
So? It was empty, right? Did you lose the deposit?

This happened to me once at a theatre, and the movie was so bad that the bottle rolling down got more laughs than any of the lines in whatever completely non-memorable movie it was (think Hot Shots Part Deux or something).

ThrashersFan 10-14-2003 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So? It was empty, right? Did you lose the deposit?

This happened to me once at a theatre, and the movie was so bad that the bottle rolling down got more laughs than any of the lines in whatever completely non-memorable movie it was (think Hot Shots Part Deux or something).
Yes, it was empty. No, we don't do deposits down here -- just chuck them in the trash. It made me have a flashback to age 15 and being escorted from a theater and threatened with a call to the police. I had my son with me and I didn't want there to be a scene if the usher busted me. It was just weird.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 10-14-2003 01:23 PM

Yankees/Red Sox Fracas
 
Personally, I don't care who wins the Yankees/Red Sox series...

As long as one of them hurries their asses up and kicks the living shit out of the fucking Cubs.

There is nothing, I repeat nothing, more obnoxious in this world than asshole Cubs fans on those very rare occasions when the Cubs are actually winning...

Gattigap 10-14-2003 01:24 PM

You clueless people suck*
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And this is perhaps why, the Yankees lead the league in merchandise sold, led the League in attendance at home and are always the largest road draw [making even more money for every other shit team that complains about their payroll].

And why Shea Stadium constantly has less fans in attendance than the Bangles reunion concert I went to several years ago.

[Emphasis added]
This post makes a profound point, though not the one I think you think you're making.

Edited to fix quote

Bad_Rich_Chic 10-14-2003 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by barely_legal
I just found out that a guy I've started dating refuses to go see movies in movie theaters. He hasn't given me an explanation yet. He'll go to the theater to see plays, but no movie theaters. Assuming that he doesn't have a really good explanation, like that he got assaulted by a gang of prepubescent ruffians on his way out of the last Power Rangers movie, is it wrong for me to judge him for this?
No, I think going to the theater is fun, too. However, some possible justifications:

Hates people talking during the movie
Wants to talk/smoke during the movie
After years of movie rentals, he feels oppressed by a specific start time
Germ-phobic
Demophobic
Broke (hey, those fuckers are expensive these days, even before popcorn)
Has a better sound system at home
Has been banned for life for puking in the seats
Afraid of the dark
Moral objection to not being able to eat sushi in the theater
As yet undisclosed movie snobbery, and he will not see ANYTHING that receives a general release
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So, who wants to go see Intolerable Cruelty with me this weekend?
Already have a date with 10 neighbors to see Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Funny, that. After telling neighbors how good Bubba Ho-Tep was, a bunch of them immediately complained that they hadn't gone along since they loved horror films/Bruce Campbell/ass-sucking mummies, and didn't know anyone else did. So we have quite the neighborhood horror posse, now.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-14-2003 01:29 PM

You clueless people suck*
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And this is perhaps why, the Yankees lead the league in merchandise sold, led the League in attendance at home and are always the largest road draw [making even more money for every other shit team that complains about their payroll].

Actually, attendance should probably be measured by % of capacity of stadium filled since most older stadiums are much smaller, e.g., Wrigley and Fenway. Yankee Stadium is quite large for an older stadium.

If we go by overall attendance %, i.e., % of capacity filled at home and on the road, the Cubs are #1, with San Fran #2 and Boston #3. Yankees are 4th.

(See espn.com stats page - I tried to cut and paste but had trouble with the format).

spookyfish 10-14-2003 01:40 PM

Welcome to the Board, Friend.
 
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Originally posted by The Daintiest Petunia
Oh dear! It sure likes like a picked a rough and tumble day to join in the Greedy Associates fray!!! Hey, that was kind of a poem!:laugh: :laugh: Not bad for a newber! O.K., I'm really going to stop now. I'm not even a baseball fan and that seems to be the topic du jour. (Nothing like a little Francais to add a touch of class and mystery, I always think!!!)

The Daintiest Petunia
Welcome to the board, newber. We're glad to have you! Don't be afraid to jump into the fray with the rest of us, very few people here bite. :D I have a suggestion, though. Since you are new, you probably do not know a lot of the ins and outs of the board yet. A little tradition we have here, is to sprinkle most of our posts with a shout-out to one of our board friends. Usually, we try to sprinkle this into the middle of the text, like this (Hi, Thurgreed!). It's just a friendly way of saying heidy-ho to your new chums on the board. If you have any questions, PM me, and I'll be glad to give you a list of our friendlier posters. Again, welcome aboard, new neighbor, and have fun. I'm sure you'll learn soon enough that we're a swell bunch of folks.

Your new pal,
spookyfish

ThurgreedMarshall 10-14-2003 01:42 PM

You people suck*
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Meanwhile, no one who plays for the Yankees has ever hit anyone.

People love headhunters on their own team, and hate 'em the rest of the time.
You suffer from selective reading. I already admitted Clemens was almost as nuts as paigow. In fact, he's my least favorite Yankee starter because of how he used to nail Jeter on the regular when he pitched for Toronto. So, what you just made up, doesn't apply in this case.

That said, he doesn't threaten to bean people in the skull right after attempting to hit someone in the head.

TM

evenodds 10-14-2003 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
No, I think going to the theater is fun, too. However, some possible justifications:

Hates people talking during the movie
I rarely see anything in the theater because I cannot stand having people talk during a movie.

Things rarely anger me, but talking during a movie just pisses me off. I nearly slugged the guy next to me, who decided to talk on his cell during the opening credits of 28 Days Later.

When I do see a movie, we go opening night if possible, so fewer people will have already seen it and will have fewer reasons to tell their friends "I love this part."

We attend the theater in our neighborhood because it has the most generous stadium seating (true aisles, great legroom, no kids kicking the back of your seat). If it's not playing there, I have to really really really want to see it.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-14-2003 01:47 PM

You people suck*
 
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You suffer from selective reading. I already admitted Clemens was almost as nuts as paigow. In fact, he's my least favorite Yankee starter because of how he used to nail Jeter on the regular when he pitched for Toronto. So, what you just made up, doesn't apply in this case.

That said, he doesn't threaten to bean people in the skull right after attempting to hit someone in the head.

TM
I think I suffered, although the word hardly seems appropriate, from not having read the rest of posts in the thread. Or, you suffered from my ketching up. Sorry.

Someone (Bob Ryan?) writing in the Boston Globe the past few days pointed out that the Red Sox always let their stars get away with too much. Right now it's Pedro and Manny, but it used to be Roger. He had to leave the team to get a grip. To the extent that he has a grip now.

Can I ask, what the hell was the Gerbil thinking? What was he going to do with Pedro once he got him?

Flinty_McFlint 10-14-2003 01:47 PM

You people suck*
 
What with the flinging of the elderly, the cleating of groundstaff, the threat of criminal charges, I have got to start watching more baseball--they've finally learned something from reality shows and made it more compelling to watch. I'm hoping they vote out Giambi on the next episode.

purse junkie 10-14-2003 01:51 PM

You small market team owners suck*
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why the fuck was a Fenway employee allowed in the bullpen to wave a Sox flag around and to mock the Yankees players?

The fact that MLB hasn't fined the Sox and John Henry for this blantant security breach is further proof of Selig's dislike of the "so-called" Evil Empire.

s4e
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J

ABBAKiss 10-14-2003 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal

Does anyone here just refuse to go to movie theaters for any reason?
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I don't understand going to movies on dates. Even though I no longer date, I very rarely see movies in the theater. I think this is because I see this as non-social behavior (like something I do when I am hung-over or sick).

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-14-2003 01:56 PM

Lifting the Curse: Cubs v. Red Sox
 
Here's an excerpt:

"If the Cubs lost to the Red Sox in the World Series, no doubt Cubs fans would feel awful. At last, got to the gates of heaven and they crashed shut. That's rough. But how would I feel if the Red Sox lost to the Cubs?

I have previously suggested that I feel toward the Yankees as I would toward someone who'd shot and killed my dog. Given this, what would it feel like if the Cubs beat us in the big one? It would feel as though some pleasant, absent-minded guy had accidentally run over my dog in the street and not really noticed, and then clumsily reversed back over the dog as it yelped in its death throes. Then he started whooping and guzzling beer with friends, while still standing over the dog corpse. And all the while he still seems like a really nice guy who was hard to blame or dislike."

The article is on the front page of www.slate.com

Hank Chinaski 10-14-2003 01:59 PM

You small market team owners suck*
 
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Originally posted by purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J
bullpens are dangerous because they're in places having pretty good access from the stands. the guys in them catch shit all the time from fans. now for a guy to go in there and start taunting is really crossing a line, isn't it? plus, relief pitchers are probably the most on edge of all baseball players. they have to be ready to start already fired up. going into a bullpen and starting shit really isn't smart.
the entire fight is pathetic, but the groundskeeper, or whoever he is, is as guilty. The fact he lost the fight doesn't change that.
of course, he can bring suit....in a Mass. Court, so don't feel too sorry for him.

purse junkie 10-14-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal
I just found out that a guy I've started dating refuses to go see movies in movie theaters. If I was head over heels in lust with him, maybe I could overlook this, but wtf? I love going to see movies and I can't imagine not being able to go see new releases with the person I'm dating.
You're not head over heels in lust with the guy, and he's already made it clear he has no desire to ever do something you like to do with the guys you date.

If you can't be happy going to the movies with your friends the rest of your life instead, and unless you are really attached to this guy already, why not cut your losses and bail?

Bad_Rich_Chic 10-14-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
I rarely see anything in the theater because I cannot stand having people talk during a movie....

We attend the theater in our neighborhood because it has the most generous stadium seating (true aisles, great legroom, no kids kicking the back of your seat). If it's not playing there, I have to really really really want to see it.
We have 3 nearby theaters. Two are little independent, sort of arthouse theaters (one of which stays afloat by showing every kid movie that comes out to which every middle-class parent is apparently obligated by law to drag their offspring 3 times), one is the big megaplex, which gets a much more mixed audience (downtown brooklynites of color rather than the white Yuppies inhabiting the other two). One theater is more, um, participatory than the others. It also has much nicer seating, and is much less run down.

We usually end up going to the megaplex, though I try to see things in the nearer of the indy theaters if we can (just 'cause I like supporting local businesses, really). For most of the stuff we see a loud "interactive" crowd is just fine, sometimes even more entertaining than the movie - most mainstream horror, action and comedy falls into this category. Someone talking during 28 days later would have bugged the fuck out of me, though. (Actually, it was the people who brought their little kids, who squirmed and cried, that bugged me in that one.) Unfortunately, it wasn't showing at one of the little theaters.

I guess what I'm saying is - we know the crowds at our various theaters, and pick where we'll see a given movie accordingly. Should it not be so? On the one hand, yes, one should be able to expect quiet in theaters everywhere on the general public behavior theory that those with non-intrusive preferences prevail over those with intrusive preferences. On the other hand, different communities have different public behavior standards, and when in Rome...

Anttwat 10-14-2003 02:01 PM

You small market team owners suck*
 
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Originally posted by purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J
It's because of this...Jeff Nelson has a big mouth and a bad temper. New York is the only place he actually fits in and if he weren't a Yankee, he'd be a Yankee fan (read loud and obnoxious). I wouldn't be surprised at all if I found out that he started the whole thing in the bull-pen. Cleating a guy while he's on the ground is his specialty.

Not Bob 10-14-2003 02:01 PM

You Pedro defenders suck*
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Very entertaining to threaten to bash in the skulls of members of the other team with a 96 mph fastball. Back in law school, we called this assault.
Interesting. What did you call it when pitchers threw bats at players running to first base?

Apropos of nothing, Saturday's events demonstrate one of the many reasons why the designated hitter rule should be eliminated. Make Pedro or Roger* or [insert name of American League pitcher here] stand in the batter's box, and much of this nonsense will go away.

*I note that Roger's pitch to Manny was barely off the plate, and that Manny was reacting to what he was expecting from Roger, not what Roger did. Nonetheless, Roger does throw at heads every so often.

The Daintiest Petunia 10-14-2003 02:04 PM

Welcome to the Board, Friend.
 
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Originally posted by spookyfish
Welcome to the board, newber. We're glad to have you! Don't be afraid to jump into the fray with the rest of us, very few people here bite. :D I have a suggestion, though. Since you are new, you probably do not know a lot of the ins and outs of the board yet. A little tradition we have here, is to sprinkle most of our posts with a shout-out to one of our board friends. Usually, we try to sprinkle this into the middle of the text, like this (Hi, Thurgreed!). It's just a friendly way of saying heidy-ho to your new chums on the board. If you have any questions, PM me, and I'll be glad to give you a list of our friendlier posters. Again, welcome aboard, new neighbor, and have fun. I'm sure you'll learn soon enough that we're a swell bunch of folks.

Your new pal,
spookyfish
Thanks Mr. (or Ms.!) Spookyfish! I actually have learned quite a bit from lurking. I was actually working on a song parody as my debut post, but then the whole contest came along and that was the end of that little scheme! Although I am not sure that all of your comments are uttered with complete sincerity, no worries here! ;) I just appreciate the response. Now that you mention it, though, I never did understand that "shout out" thing. I always thought it referred to some private joke between a couple of Greedy Associates. But maybe that can be our little joke (Hi Spookyfish!). LOL!!! :D :D Anyway, I have to get some work done and stop reading the internet before big boss man catches me! See ya on the boards!

The Daintiest Petunia

NotFromHere 10-14-2003 02:05 PM

You Pedro defenders suck*
 
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Interesting. What did you call it when pitchers threw bats at players running to first base?

Apropos of nothing, Saturday's events demonstrate one of the many reasons why the designated hitter rule should be eliminated. Make Pedro or Roger* or [insert name of American League pitcher here] stand in the batter's box, and much of this nonsense will go away.

*I note that Roger's pitch to Manny was barely off the plate, and that Manny was reacting to what he was expecting from Roger, not what Roger did. Nonetheless, Roger does throw at heads every so often.
I've heard this. Do you really believe that Roger stops pitching the chin music if he has to go up to bat? Or do you think that more pitchers get hit? Or do you think he just saves it for the 6th or 7th inning?

Atticus Grinch 10-14-2003 02:07 PM

Two questions about a church service experience
 
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Originally posted by dtb
You're kidding, right? No one really believes this, do they? What, exactly, would he have converted to? There was no such thing as "Christianity" until centuries after his death.
The essential validity of that point is drowned in the hyperbole in which it is stated. There was no seperate thing called "Christianity" for probably 150 years or so after the death (or not-death, natch) of the man who came to be called Jesus.

However, the Jesus-cult was probably coequal with the other Jewish political parties of first century Judea by about 135 C.E. --- so you would talk about the Essenes, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Jesus Party (using whatever term was then used) as being movements within Judaism. The destruction of the temple in 70 C.E. pretty much ended the Sadducees, who had been dominant to that point, and the defeat of the Bar-Kokhba Revolt in 135 probably catapulted the Jesus Party to a position of equality in the now-underground Jewish religion.

The fact that the Council of Jerusalem allowed the Jesus Party to recruit members without requiring adherence to dietary laws or circumcision (which was a taboo form of human mutilation among the Hellenistic residents of the Mediterranean region) gave the Jesus Movement a recruiting edge over other sects within Judaism. The foremost surviving competitor, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism, was thus the target of the Jesus Movement's ire, and explains the latent or patent anti-Semitism of the early Christian church, where "Pharisee" is a synonym for "any non-Christian Jew." Combine this with the Jesus Movement's whacked-out millenial worldview saying that holy justice was imminent, and you have a recipe for success for the chaotic times to come within the Roman Empire. Around the same time, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism made the choice to go toward a matrilineal ethnic identity, and away from any kind of proselytization, which made recruiting difficult.

There was a thing called Christianity then, but it looked too much like any other form of then-existing Judaism to consider it a Church.

TexLex 10-14-2003 02:08 PM

Classy Baby Names
 
Trend - Babies named after products

How much anesthesia do they have to give you before you write "Pepsi" on the birth certificate? -TL

Shape Shifter 10-14-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
For most of the stuff we see a loud "interactive" crowd is just fine, sometimes even more entertaining than the movie - most mainstream horror, action and comedy falls into this category.
I saw The Crying Game at a $1 theatre, where the audience members presumably did not expend much effort researching which films to see. The interactive crowd made the moment of revelation all the more memorable.

The Daintiest Petunia 10-14-2003 02:16 PM

Two questions about a church service experience
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The essential validity of that point is drowned in the hyperbole in which it is stated. There was no seperate thing called "Christianity" for probably 150 years or so after the death (or not-death, natch) of the man who came to be called Jesus.

However, the Jesus-cult was probably coequal with the other Jewish political parties of first century Judea by about 135 C.E. --- so you would talk about the Essenes, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Jesus Party (using whatever term was then used) as being movements within Judaism. The destruction of the temple in 70 C.E. pretty much ended the Sadducees, who had been dominant to that point, and the defeat of the Bar-Kokhba Revolt in 135 probably catapulted the Jesus Party to a position of equality in the now-underground Jewish religion.

The fact that the Council of Jerusalem allowed the Jesus Party to recruit members without requiring adherence to dietary laws or circumcision (which was a taboo form of human mutilation among the Hellenistic residents of the Mediterranean region) gave the Jesus Movement a recruiting edge over other sects within Judaism. The foremost surviving competitor, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism, was thus the target of the Jesus Movement's ire, and explains the latent or patent anti-Semitism of the early Christian church, where "Pharisee" is a synonym for "any non-Christian Jew." Combine this with the Jesus Movement's whacked-out millenial worldview saying that holy justice was imminent, and you have a recipe for success for the chaotic times to come within the Roman Empire. Around the same time, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism made the choice to go toward a matrilineal ethnic identity, and away from any kind of proselytization, which made recruiting difficult.

There was a thing called Christianity then, but it looked too much like any other form of then-existing Judaism to consider it a Church.
Wow!!! Sometimes I read posts by Atticus and just think, "Wow!!!" I wouldn't even know where to begin to respond!! It is nice to see a littel eruditity here. Is that even a word? I bet Atticus can tell me!!! LOL!! (I know this is a big bad "no no" for some of the posters here, but it is just part of my personality - if there is one thing I have learned from lurking is that you just cannot try too hard to be "FB Cool." It never works. Just be yourself. That's what I always say. Maybe I should write some sort of manual for newbers based on my experiences, which I have to say, have been great so far, even if Mr. Spookyfish was maybe poking a little fun at me! (Hi Spookyfish!) Poke away, SF, I can take it!)

The Daintiest Petunia

ThurgreedMarshall 10-14-2003 02:17 PM

You clueless people suck*
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Actually, attendance should probably be measured by % of capacity of stadium filled since most older stadiums are much smaller, e.g., Wrigley and Fenway. Yankee Stadium is quite large for an older stadium.

If we go by overall attendance %, i.e., % of capacity filled at home and on the road, the Cubs are #1, with San Fran #2 and Boston #3. Yankees are 4th.
That makes sense. So, under your theory, the Wolverines (UofM Stadium seating capacity: 107,501) have poor attendance when compared to Wrigley (39,000) if they fill 95% of their stadium and Wrigley sells out?

TM

Bad_Rich_Chic 10-14-2003 02:18 PM

Dealbreakers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I saw The Crying Game at a $1 theatre, where the audience members presumably did not expend much effort researching which films to see. The interactive crowd made the moment of revelation all the more memorable.
Heh. When I saw LOTR: Fellowship, some group in the back didn't, apparently, realize it was first in a series. So when it ended, this cry of "WTF? No way!" went up from the back of the theater. Which was pretty amusing.

SlaveNoMore 10-14-2003 02:18 PM

Soy Bomb
 
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purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J
He wasn't a fan. He was an employee paid to keep his fucking mouth shut and do his job shoveling dirt. Not get involved in the psyche of the game by having access to the opposing team [that no "fan" has].

I cannot believe some of you people.

SlaveNoMore 10-14-2003 02:21 PM

You small market team owners suck*
 
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Anttwat
It's because of this...Jeff Nelson has a big mouth and a bad temper. New York is the only place he actually fits in and if he weren't a Yankee, he'd be a Yankee fan (read loud and obnoxious). I wouldn't be surprised at all if I found out that he started the whole thing in the bull-pen. Cleating a guy while he's on the ground is his specialty.
You ran Randy, Junior and ARod out of town. Edgar is retiring. And now you badmouth Nelson. No wonder Seattle is a suck baseball town.

Penske_Account 10-14-2003 02:24 PM

Two questions about a church service experience
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The essential validity of that point is drowned in the hyperbole in which it is stated. There was no seperate thing called "Christianity" for probably 150 years or so after the death (or not-death, natch) of the man who came to be called Jesus.

However, the Jesus-cult was probably coequal with the other Jewish political parties of first century Judea by about 135 C.E. --- so you would talk about the Essenes, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Jesus Party (using whatever term was then used) as being movements within Judaism. The destruction of the temple in 70 C.E. pretty much ended the Sadducees, who had been dominant to that point, and the defeat of the Bar-Kokhba Revolt in 135 probably catapulted the Jesus Party to a position of equality in the now-underground Jewish religion.

The fact that the Council of Jerusalem allowed the Jesus Party to recruit members without requiring adherence to dietary laws or circumcision (which was a taboo form of human mutilation among the Hellenistic residents of the Mediterranean region) gave the Jesus Movement a recruiting edge over other sects within Judaism. The foremost surviving competitor, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism, was thus the target of the Jesus Movement's ire, and explains the latent or patent anti-Semitism of the early Christian church, where "Pharisee" is a synonym for "any non-Christian Jew." Combine this with the Jesus Movement's whacked-out millenial worldview saying that holy justice was imminent, and you have a recipe for success for the chaotic times to come within the Roman Empire. Around the same time, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism made the choice to go toward a matrilineal ethnic identity, and away from any kind of proselytization, which made recruiting difficult.

There was a thing called Christianity then, but it looked too much like any other form of then-existing Judaism to consider it a Church.
FWIW, I doubt if Jesus would have thrown a 72 year old man to the ground.

Sparklehorse 10-14-2003 02:24 PM

Dealbreakers
 
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Originally posted by barely_legal

Does anyone here just refuse to go to movie theaters for any reason?
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I don't understand going to movies on dates. Even though I no longer date, I very rarely see movies in the theater. I think this is because I see this as non-social behavior (like something I do when I am hung-over or sick).
I think the not-talking is exactly why some people like it. You get to say you spent time together on a date but you don't have to sweat which of you will utter or do the deal-breaker. And if you go out for drinks or dinner after, you have a new topic for conversation.

Of course, this can backfire. I went out to a movie with a guy on a second date a while back. He had a weird reaction to the movie that turned into a Rorschach about his view of relationships which was very different than mine. We did go out one more time but the deal was effectively broken over that movie.

leagleaze 10-14-2003 02:24 PM

Dealbreakers
 
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Originally posted by barely_legal
crazy boyfriend shit
I think you should date less quirky men.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-14-2003 02:24 PM

You people suck*
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Someone (Bob Ryan?) writing in the Boston Globe the past few days pointed out that the Red Sox always let their stars get away with too much. Right now it's Pedro and Manny, but it used to be Roger. He had to leave the team to get a grip. To the extent that he has a grip now.
Well, Ty Cobb never played for Boston, but that may be right. Clemens got away with murder everywhere he went (including NY) and I was embarassed when he beaned Piazza and threw the bat at him later on. His explanations were pure bullshit.

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Can I ask, what the hell was the Gerbil thinking? What was he going to do with Pedro once he got him?
I do not know. I think he had a flashback to when he got beaned and thought he was momentarily 50 years younger. It was stupid as hell. If he would have fallen on Pedro's ankle and hurt him somehow, it would have been a disaster. For the Yankees, Sox and baseball. But at least he seems genuinely sorry he did it.

TM

NotFromHere 10-14-2003 02:30 PM

You small market team owners suck*
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You ran Randy, Junior and ARod out of town. Edgar is retiring. And now you badmouth Nelson. No wonder Seattle is a suck baseball town.
Yeah, losing Junior - what a huge loss that was. Cincinnati can have him.
And A-Rod - yeah well how many playoffs has he been in since he's left?
Randy? Retirement.


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