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1. You get married because you desperately want to be married, but don't love the person and you're an idiot. You deserve nothing. It's irrational.

If you get married to a person you don't love because you desperately want a kid, you're loathsome.

2. I didn't say I was ok with the fat bald guy using dough to get himself a hooker-wife. That's pathetic IMO. Call me a romantic. Or call me lucky enough not to be that fucking ugly and absent personality that I'd need to do that kind of pathetic shit. I agree with you - he should get a prenup. But the law should also fuck over golddiggers.

3. My friend is a prince. This isn't a two sided story. He got taken. Dicked. Hard.

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It's almost becoming Pythonesque. Good. The sanctimonious fucks deserve it.

And God Bless Larry Flynt!

Fatto
 

Though I think Moore's flick was lacking, his camp has had some clever comebacks to criticisms.

Repub candidate Mike Huckabee: "Frankly, Michael Moore is an example of why the health care system costs so much in this country. He clearly is one of the reasons that we have a very expensive system. I know that from my own personal experience," said Huckabee, who lost more than 110 pounds and became an avid runner after he was diagnosed with diabetes.

"I know how much more my health care cost when I didn't take care of myself than when I do take care of myself, not only in terms of doctor visits but regular diseases, illnesses, chronic things that come up, monthly prescription bills...All of those things have gone dramatically down since I've taken care of myself and worked to live a healthier lifestyle."

Producer of "Sicko":
"Looks like Mike Huckabee is auditioning for some insurance company dough, since he's raised just about no money and sparked zero interest since jumping into the race...I wonder what the good governor would say to the French, who drink more, smoke more, eat more cheese and still live longer than us despite paying less for health care?"

Huckabee: ""Let me ask you, have you ever met anybody when they were really sick say, 'Oh my gosh, I have a desperate disease. Get me to Havana, I've got to have the best health care in the world.'' Huckabee earlier told reporters that there should be a greater push toward insurance companies paying for preventive measures such as nutrition counseling and cancer screenings that would cut down on higher health costs in the future.

Sicko Producer: "No wonder the Republicans are in such trouble - their entire plan to fix the health care system in this country is to tell people to lose weight. Maybe if Mike Huckabee and his Republican friends stopped sucking up to health-insurance campaign contributors they wouldn't feel the need to blame Americans for this crisis. Just because he stopped eating Twinkies by the bushel doesn't make that an outline for a national health care plan. There's nothing worse than a reformed smoker - or Twinkie eater for that matter - preaching conversion."

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He offered to PAY to GIVE it?

:rofl:

The Congressman part is almost secondary. Damn!

S_A_M

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He really, really wanted to suck a stranger's cock.

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Apparently, he sponsored legislation to address this issue , because Florida wasn't tough enough on people like him already.

Sounds like another Mark Foley wannabe. Where do you guys find all of them? Does Pat Robertson go to "those" online sites to recruit candidates for the Rs?

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It sounds like a Florida problem. I'm suddenly worried about Jeb.

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This is anecdotal, but when I went out with my ex-boyfriend, I paid 90% of the time. He makes about 1/4 of what I do. It would be ridiculous to expect him to pay.

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It was pretty evenly split down the middle with my ex-boyfriend.

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You are definitely in a small minority. I think most guys would agree that they are lucky to get treated every 6 dates or so, and most of the time it's breakfast. I'm not complaining and, in fact, I like paying - all I ask is for a "reach," just so I know it's appreciated. But to go back to the original point, our dating conventions are not very different from Sebby's prostitution analysis.

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Again, you are in the minority. What about your current boy-friend? Or on your next first day, are you really expecting to pay? And wouldn't you be put off if the guy didn't pick up the tab?

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Translation: I get lucky one out of every six dates.


Translation: My idea of getting lucky is a little different, which keeps my percentage down.

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What an apropos question, as I believe she is going on her first date since the breakup tonight!

Your "I like paying" in the prior post is kind of at odds with the tenor of the posts leading up to it. You like the prostitution model? You don't think any woman would fuck you purely for the pleasure of it, or have dinner with you because she enjoys your company? Pity.

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I am. Yay! And fwiw, I expect what will happen is that the check will come, I will offer to pay and he will say it's not necessary. On a first date, I wouldn't make a fuss and insist on paying or splitting it down the middle. It's tricky -- on the one hand, I would hate to be thought of as cheap, and again, I make more than he does (but we're almost even), but some guys take an insistence on splitting as an indication that the date didn't go well, and I wouldn't want to send that signal.

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Exactly. We are as one on this.

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But can you get off giving head?

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2. I will note that I don't usually "date". I tend to stumble into relationships without there ever having been a first date, unless "one night stand" counts.

This could explain why I'm more often single than not.

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I limited the extent to which she and I are as one. Geez. No, I haven't ever.

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If you end up in a relationship, then it's not a one-night stand, is it?

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The original post hoc!

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As a little experiment for the benefit of the board, can you out-and-out insist on paying tonight?

Now, clubby, should the guy be more interested because it's no longer just a financial transaction or less interested because once it's not a financial transaction he expects less? Or should Gwink lose interest because she's not gotten her dinner paid for?

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From the above discussion, it is now clear. He was just looking to buy dinner.

The Elevator Says...
 

That GWB commented on the Libby thing by saying his decision to (what's the technical term here, I haven't really been following along) [commute Libby's sentence?] [pardon him?] was a "fair and balanced decision". Seriously? Can someone substantiate? That is awesome, if true.

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CNN does (scroll about half way down, to call-out on left

The Elevator Says...
 

Would love to be a fly on the wall seeing the copious high-fiving at Fox News. Should we presume that Roger Ailes (sp?) was his main advisor on this move?

The Elevator Says...
 

More than when they planted Tony Snow in the WH?

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All part of one big plan, I would bet.

Apparently someone even commented on the "fair and balanced" characterization:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/wa...pagewanted=all

search "fair and balanced," duh -- it's a long-ass transcript. Funny!

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Wendell Goler, Fox News. He was complaining that Bush was going to let someone else ask a question. In yo' face, Fox News!

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I always try to pay when I'm out with any woman, because I am sexist.

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If the date's really, really working, the combination of alcohol and thinking about fucking should wash these concerns away, shouldn't it?

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Hmm, in the spirit of anti-biased bi-partisanship, where's the beef here? Isn't this just a lifestyle choice? He didn't lie about the proposition under oath, did he?

I propose to my fellow board members that in an pre-election year election year cycle, we should try to stick with substancive issues rather than validating the media's pre-occupation with consensual sex or the pursuit thereof.

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Look at the nice bill he sponsored on lewd and lascivious behavior!

But for that bit of HypocRisy, who cares?

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Does this mean no more Monica stuff?

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In the spirit of bi-partisanship and understanding, perhaps his work on that failed legislation convinced him of the error of his ways and evolved his perspective; and perhaps he was celebrating such perspectorial evolution when the arrest went down.

???

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To the extent that such stuff is irrelevant to the debate at hand, yes.

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So to speak.

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That's fine.

I believe such things are only relevant when the official involved has made a point of being holier than thou, sanctimonious, or self-righteous, and will limit my comments accordingly, assuming others can do the same.

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I like paying on dates for the same reason I like buying drinks for friends. It makes me feel good to do something nice for other people.

I frankly don't care why they are fucking me, as long as they are fucking me.

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Rule of thumb - just make the reach, don't insist. If you insist, he will think you're not into him.