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sebastian_dangerfield 07-01-2005 10:46 AM
Scientology
 
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The bet with Heinlein has been pretty much debunked.

The Church took German publishers to court over the report that Scientology was a money making scheme. Rumors persist, though, that L. Ron Hubbard said several times that the best way to make a million dollars was to start a religion.

There's a huge anti-scientology movement on the web. If half of the stories are true, it's a really scary religion. I looked into it a bit when my friend was trying to get out of her marraige. There are stories of the Church going after people who left it and talked about it. They sue people all the time for revealing its material and texts. Basically, to move on to the next level of enlightenment, you have to pay to take their special courses.

Operation Clam Bake is the most comprehensive anti-scientology site out there. It's sort of fascinating to read about.
I blame you for my inability to think today... I stayed up until 1:30 reading that site last night.

I also blame you for destroying my last shred of hope that humans are not imbeciles at their cores.

I now have officially no hope at all for mankind.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 11:25 AM
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

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Hank Chinaski 07-01-2005 11:36 AM
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

:cheers: :partytime :rock: :band: :sportswav
does Ashcroft have a JD?

Sidd Finch 07-01-2005 11:41 AM
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

:cheers: :partytime :rock: :band: :sportswav

Wow -- talk about a bait-and-switch.

Say_hello_for_me 07-01-2005 11:47 AM
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

:cheers: :partytime :rock: :band: :sportswav
I like her as a person and hope we can still be friends. Good bye Roe.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-01-2005 11:52 AM
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Wow -- talk about a bait-and-switch.
Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 11:56 AM
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I like her as a person and hope we can still be friends. Good bye Roe.
I think the proper term is bon voyage!

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 11:59 AM
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Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.
I think you are nuts, no offence. I would be shocked if they didn't have plans in place for both contingencies. Her impending retirement has been out there since 2000. I predict that Bush will act quickly and decisively, liberal sensibilities be damned, make a strong conservative choice and go to the mat.

This is going to be great. The Dems will be so beaten to a pulp that when Rehnquist kicks the bucket in the fall (RIP), C.J. Thomas will be a slam dunk.

SlaveNoMore 07-01-2005 12:03 PM
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, Burger (C.J.)
Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.
Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-01-2005 12:04 PM
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I think you are nuts, no offence.
None taken.

But, do you think it's realistic to appoint a man to take her place? By realistic, I don't mean "would they do it" but rather, will they lose a few votes of support, which will be critical, if they don't? Two moderate Rs are women. I imagine they'll get pushed really hard to keep the ? at 22%

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-01-2005 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
We'll see which side is right--I can certainly understand that perspective. The opponents haven't been worn down yet, and there's no splitting the opposition this way on "do we use our powder now or later".

Shape Shifter 07-01-2005 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
So, Hillary to the Supreme Court?

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
Bush is set to speak to the nation within the hour. Word is a nomination may come. I predict either Luttig or Janice Rogers Brown.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
None taken.

But, do you think it's realistic to appoint a man to take her place? By realistic, I don't mean "would they do it" but rather, will they lose a few votes of support, which will be critical, if they don't? Two moderate Rs are women. I imagine they'll get pushed really hard to keep the ? at 22%
Personally I think its fine to appoint a man. I am gender blind.

But if you need a woman, Janice Rogers Brown or Edith Jones.

Replaced_Texan 07-01-2005 12:14 PM
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-01-2005 12:15 PM
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Personally I think its fine to appoint a man. I am gender blind.

But if you need a woman, Janice Rogers Brown or Edith Jones.
Brown won't get the votes. No way, at least not without shutting down the Senate. Many had their doubts about her as a crazy ideologue, but they capitulated. She got 56 votes for the DC Cir. That's a pretty thin margin to start from. The Dems can pick off Nelson (the one Dem. for her), and probably 5 Rs. And that's only after they lose the nuclear option.

Jones had a shot until she wrote that reCOCKulous dissent in the case trying to reopen Roe. That sucker will be quoted ad nauseum if she's nominated. Not smart on her part--she had plausible deniability until writing that.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Brown won't get the votes. No way, at least not without shutting down the Senate. Many had their doubts about her as a crazy ideologue, but they capitulated. She got 56 votes for the DC Cir. That's a pretty thin margin to start from. The Dems can pick off Nelson (the one Dem. for her), and probably 5 Rs. And that's only after they lose the nuclear option.

Jones had a shot until she wrote that reCOCKulous dissent in the case trying to reopen Roe. That sucker will be quoted ad nauseum if she's nominated. Not smart on her part--she had plausible deniability until writing that.
Good. Make it bloody and expose the liberals for the obstructionists that they are. The people knew Bush's opinion on Roe and judges prior to electing him. Now is the time for ROI.

Here's a thought, throw Rogers up first. She gets shot down, then put Jones up. They could never ding a second woman nominee who was more moderate.

Tribe is on now, he just said the libs got hit by a tsunami. I hope it washes him away to France.

Replaced_Texan 07-01-2005 12:31 PM
Scientology
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I blame you for my inability to think today... I stayed up until 1:30 reading that site last night.

I also blame you for destroying my last shred of hope that humans are not imbeciles at their cores.

I now have officially no hope at all for mankind.
Hey, at least now all that stuff is in one place. When I started looking into it, it was all over the web.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-01-2005 12:35 PM
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Here's a thought, throw Rogers up first. She gets shot down, then put Jones up. They could never ding a second woman nominee who was more moderate.
Intriguing. I guess the question of who's benefitted more depends on whether you think Bush will be able to get his pick through regardless. If he can, then R's win, because it's true that the energy to fight will dissipate the second time around, meaning the new chief will be even easier to pick.

But I'm not so sure Bush's support (and, more important, the repercussions of not supporting Bush for a senator) is as great as perhaps some think it to be.

AliHajiSheik 07-01-2005 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Intriguing. I guess the question of who's benefitted more depends on whether you think Bush will be able to get his pick through regardless. If he can, then R's win, because it's true that the energy to fight will dissipate the second time around, meaning the new chief will be even easier to pick.

But I'm not so sure Bush's support (and, more important, the repercussions of not supporting Bush for a senator) is as great as perhaps some think it to be.
Hello and welcome to the United States of Baby Jebus, home to the top schools of creationist science in all of this flat earth. Try our freedom fries and enjoy our nascar racing. Please leave your pr0nm, stem cells and civil rights at the border.

If we can get a true ideological federalist, this is a big win for everyone and I'm happy as a pig in sh!t provided I can avoid travelling outside of NY, Las Vegas and CA. My money says we're on our way to a Xian theocracy where state's rights are doled out to the extent they don't make baby Jebus cry - e.g., medical marijuana, pr0n, euthanasia, stem cells, etc, and they will upheld any restriction on states rights that makes the hardcore conservative Xians happy. Your children will be learning mandatory intelligent design in their biology classes.

Sexual Harassment Panda 07-01-2005 01:14 PM
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Hello and welcome to the United States of Baby Jebus, home to the top schools of creationist science in all of this flat earth.
Ain't it the truth. Just ask 'em.

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Try our freedom fries and enjoy our nascar racing. Please leave your pr0nm, stem cells and civil rights at the border.
Especially the latter.

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If we can get a true ideological federalist, this is a big win for everyone and I'm happy as a pig in sh!t provided I can avoid travelling outside of NY, Las Vegas and CA.
Why California? I thought California made baby Jebus cry.

AliHajiSheik 07-01-2005 01:19 PM
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Why California? I thought California made baby Jebus cry.
It does but...blondes, fake b00bies, pr0n valley, wine country and san francisco?

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Intriguing. I guess the question of who's benefitted more depends on whether you think Bush will be able to get his pick through regardless. If he can, then R's win, because it's true that the energy to fight will dissipate the second time around, meaning the new chief will be even easier to pick.
I think with 3 years left in his term he will get a pick for this seat through. It would surprise me to see an obviously offensively conservative sacrificial lamb go first and then a nearly equally conservative second pick where the line is "the dems are being unreasonably obstructionist". I invented the Rogers then Jones scenario. Remember that.


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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)


But I'm not so sure Bush's support (and, more important, the repercussions of not supporting Bush for a senator) is as great as perhaps some think it to be.
I think that there is support and there is support. Some party members may not like the ideology but I think the ground rules will be made clear by Rove-you fuck with us and "our party" will kill you come election time.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:22 PM
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Hello and welcome to the United States of Baby Jebus, home to the top schools of creationist science in all of this flat earth. Try our freedom fries and enjoy our nascar racing. Please leave your pr0nm, stem cells and civil rights at the border.

If we can get a true ideological federalist, this is a big win for everyone and I'm happy as a pig in sh!t provided I can avoid travelling outside of NY, Las Vegas and CA. My money says we're on our way to a Xian theocracy where state's rights are doled out to the extent they don't make baby Jebus cry - e.g., medical marijuana, pr0n, euthanasia, stem cells, etc, and they will upheld any restriction on states rights that makes the hardcore conservative Xians happy. Your children will be learning mandatory intelligent design in their biology classes.
Are you the original AHS, or a stolen sock?

Shape Shifter 07-01-2005 01:27 PM
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Are you the original AHS, or a stolen sock?
I had thought it was you.

Shape Shifter 07-01-2005 01:28 PM
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I think with 3 years left in his term he will get a pick for this seat through. It would surprise me to see an obviously offensively conservative sacrificial lamb go first and then a nearly equally conservative second pick where the line is "the dems are being unreasonably obstructionist". I invented the Rogers then Jones scenario. Remember that.

I think that there is support and there is support. Some party members may not like the ideology but I think the ground rules will be made clear by Rove-you fuck with us and "our party" will kill you come election time.
Why not go with a moderate pick that is acceptable to everyone?

Not Bob 07-01-2005 01:28 PM
Thanks, Sandy.
 
Preview of the future take on the founders' intent (from http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/...l-theater.html via http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgeekgurl/):

http://jamescasey.co.uk/fafnir/jesusdec2.jpg

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:34 PM
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I had thought it was you.
I am not socking. Seriously. Plus I don't steal moniker names from Infirm (hi uknowwho!)

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:38 PM
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Why not go with a moderate pick that is acceptable to everyone?
I am nominally a Catholic (only because I am hedging my bets), but I don't go to church and haven't in decades. I am generally of a libertarian bent on issues of morality. I.e. I am not the christian right, but I can see that they got Bush where he is and politics being politics, the bill is now due.

Kennedy and Dodd just gave a press statement. I have so much dislike for them that I look forward to a bruising battle just to see them put in their place, which is the party not in charge. I can't believe I once campaigned for one and voted for the other. Retch.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:38 PM
Thanks, Sandy.
 
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Preview of the future take on the founders' intent (from http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/...l-theater.html via http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgeekgurl/):

http://jamescasey.co.uk/fafnir/jesusdec2.jpg
He was always there, whether you could see Him or not. Never alone. Never alone.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-01-2005 01:39 PM
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Whatever. More monkeys in robes putting out goofy inconsistent opinions.

The country's been moving toward a "cash bar" society for a long time. If I need an abortion, I'll get one. If I want to smoke dope, I'll smoke dope. I can't really get wound up about this silliness anmore. The only people getting fucked don't know they're getting fucked and don't care or vote anyway.

Nothing's going to change the fact that I'll be out of my skull in five hours and won't be back until Monday around noon.

Replaced_Texan 07-01-2005 01:40 PM
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Why not go with a moderate pick that is acceptable to everyone?
That's round two. The first round will be a bloodbath where the GOP reluctantly withdraws the nomination bitching all along about Democrat history of obstructing judicial nominations. They've been building that one up for five years.

Then they'll nominate a Kennedy type that will get through no problem.

Then when Rehnquist retires, they'll bring forth a Thomas/Scalia/Attilla the Hun type that makes their first person seem like Gahndi, but everyone will be so battle scarred by that first fight that this guy will get through with token objection and only one person testifying that he ruined her life.

AliHajiSheik 07-01-2005 01:40 PM
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Are you the original AHS, or a stolen sock?
I am the one and only.

A devout Rockefeller Repub who would like to see Ralph Reed and his ilk covered in butterscotch sauce and thrown into a pit of fire ants with Monsieur Kerry and the anti-gun lobby.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-01-2005 01:44 PM
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I am the one and only.

A devout Rockefeller Repub who would like to see Ralph Reed and his ilk covered in butterscotch sauce and thrown into a pit of fire ants with Monsieur Kerry and the anti-gun lobby.
Ralph's tit is in the ringer. Didn't you read about the emails Abramoff turned over discussing how Reed was fucking over the christian orgs he was supposed to be lobbying for. He helped swindle a Christian anti-gambling org into lobbying against a state lottery... to benefit a tribe who wanted to control gambling in the state.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:45 PM
If Kennedy is so worried about stopping anyone "who would roll back individual rights" why is he and his socialist pals have no respect for or concern for rolling my right to retain my hard earned property (i.e. income and assets)?

AliHajiSheik 07-01-2005 01:49 PM
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If Kennedy is so worried about stopping anyone "who would roll back individual rights" why is he and his socialist pals have no respect for or concern for rolling my right to retain my hard earned property (i.e. income and assets)?
Which, combined with my total lack of interest in travelling south of the Donna Dixon line for anything more than a football saturday, is why a true ideologically consistent federalist would be a victory for our great nation. Does one exist?

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:50 PM
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That's round two. The first round will be a bloodbath where the GOP reluctantly withdraws the nomination bitching all along about Democrat history of obstructing judicial nominations. They've been building that one up for five years.

Then they'll nominate a Kennedy type that will get through no problem.

Then when Rehnquist retires, they'll bring forth a Thomas/Scalia/Attilla the Hun type that makes their first person seem like Gahndi, but everyone will be so battle scarred by that first fight that this guy will get through with token objection and only one person testifying that he ruined her life.
I doubt Bush will risk his legacy on a Kennedy. It will just be a less obviously offensive conservative. The one thing Bush has demonstrated is that he learned from his dad's mistakes. Now that W has rectified the Iraq fuckup and the cut taxes repeatedly (unlike Daddy) the last big fuckup out there is Souter. W will not risk a Souter.

AliHajiSheik 07-01-2005 01:52 PM
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Ralph's tit is in the ringer. Didn't you read about the emails Abramoff turned over discussing how Reed was fucking over the christian orgs he was supposed to be lobbying for. He helped swindle a Christian anti-gambling org into lobbying against a state lottery... to benefit a tribe who wanted to control gambling in the state.
Interesting, but no. I was speaking in generalities though, the whole evangelical movement and their forays into pushing for a theocracy make me nauseous. I'll have to read about that, those types generally end up getting caught with their pants down with a pair of trannies in the closet or otherwise exposed as frauds and charlatans.

Penske_Account 07-01-2005 01:55 PM
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Which, combined with my total lack of interest in travelling south of the Donna Dixon line for anything more than a football saturday, is why a true ideologically consistent federalist would be a victory for our great nation. Does one exist?
Ted Olsen? He could cruise to approval. He is the safe fallback or the first pick if an open liberal was to leave.

Sexual Harassment Panda 07-01-2005 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
If Kennedy is so worried about stopping anyone "who would roll back individual rights" why is he and his socialist pals have no respect for or concern for rolling my right to retain my hard earned property (i.e. income and assets)?
Matthew 19:16-21.


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