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Rape is when sex = violence and there is no consent. Sex = power is an entirely different concept, one that always includes consent as I see it. If it doesn't include consent, then back to sex = violence.

With my b/f, he always consents. In fact, sometimes he even begs.

ABBAKiss

04-03-2003 05:13 PM

Liberty Avenue, USGAY

What does Liberty Avenue, USGAY mean?

Tyrone Slothrop

04-03-2003 05:14 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by JustForFun
It is because I get hugely turned-on when my b/f gets hugely turned on by my body. It makes for hot as hell sex.

For those of you who weren't exposed to popular culture much, this means that the sex is good sex.

evenodds

04-03-2003 05:17 PM

I wish I was a little bit taller....I wish I was a baller

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Fuck Biggie.

He sounded like he had a fist sized wad of taffy stuck in his mouth, or he'd just left the dentist's office and his mouth, jaw, lips and tongue were still numb from novacaine.

I don't miss his ass one bit and am amazed he's thrown into the pantheon of great rappers such as Dre, Ice Cube and Chuck D. He's not worthy to wash their jockstarps.

S("... sometimes your [supposed] words just [mystify] me...")D

I am with you on this. I don't get why he is so regarded. The Source named him the best MC ever and I think I was pissed off for a month.

Best?
Ever?

Better than Rakim?
Better than Chuck D?
Better than Pac?
Better than Andre 3000?

Hell, he's barely better than Percy Miller.

Even(waiting for thurgreed to kick the knowledge)Odds

sebastian_dangerfield

04-03-2003 05:18 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by JustForFun
Rape is when sex = violence and there is no consent. Sex = power is an entirely different concept, one that always includes consent as I see it. If it doesn't include consent, then back to sex = violence.

With my b/f, he always consents. In fact, sometimes he even begs.

"... and now, sister's not a virgin anymore...

cause sex is violent, sex is violent, sex is violent..."

God, I can't wait for Jane's new record...

bilmore

04-03-2003 05:19 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by JustForFun
Sex = power is an entirely different concept, one that always includes consent as I see it.

Cool. So, if I tell the cute little GA working under me that, if she wants to keep her job, she needs to make me very, very happy, (wink wink), and she does, there is thus consent, because there's no violence?

Interesting theory . . .

sebastian_dangerfield

04-03-2003 05:21 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by JustForFun
No. I have explained this once before, but maybe you were absent that day. It is because I get hugely turned-on when my b/f gets hugely turned on by my body. It makes for hot as hell sex and I am sure that there may even be some "sex is power" aspect to it. But never spent too much time analyzing it. It is one of those if-it-feels-good-do-it things for me. Just seeing him like that is almost enough for me to orgasm, but not quite enough, as I still need at least a bit of direct clitoral stimulation for that.

When you both are 22, it doesn't matter that you are the same age, because at 22, if the wind blows across his crotch he gets turned-on. Now when guys get a bit older than that, they get, for lack of a better term, more discriminating. And if you ask me, they tend to discriminate toward women that are younger than they are.

So you see, it is really all about the sex for me. Other than politics, it is my only hobby. Running and working out aren't even hobbies for me because I do them so that the sex stays hot.

Carry on.

Do you take it in the ass?

I ask because you certainly talk out your ass a lot.

Alex_de_Large

04-03-2003 05:21 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
"... and now, sister's not a virgin anymore...

cause sex is violent, sex is violent, sex is violent..."

God, I can't wait for Jane's new record...

I hope it doesn't suck.

http://www.janesaddiction.com/graphics/logo_sm.gif

Mister_Ruysbroeck

04-03-2003 05:25 PM

Coming full circle....

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
...you certainly talk out your ass a lot.

Which suggests her boyfriend probably likes to give it to her in the ass, right gwnky?

Jack Manfred

04-03-2003 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
We were only supposed to watch PBS and the football channel, and I didn't know that there were any other channels on the TV until I was five or six. Someone forgot to turn off the TV after a football game ... (football was considered educational) ... My dad to this day still proclaims pretty much everything on TV (except for sports, that's still educational) "crap."

I now appreciate Raising Arizona more.

"And this here's the TV. Two hours a day, either educational or football, so you don't ruin your appreciation of the finer things."

Jack (JFF's womb was a rocky place, where her hottie boyfriend's seed could find no purchase) Manfred

JustForFun

04-03-2003 05:34 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Cool. So, if I tell the cute little GA working under me that, if she wants to keep her job, she needs to make me very, very happy, (wink wink), and she does, there is thus consent, because there's no violence?

Interesting theory . . .

I didn't say without violence there was always consent, which is what you are saying.

I said rape is an act of violence and that there is no consent. With the exception of statutory rape, where the victim is considered incompetent to give consent, the absence of consent is what makes a sexual act a rape. The motivation for the sexual act is to commit an act of violence. But sexual desire is not part of the equation. It is an act born of violence.

If there is no consent, it is a rape by definition and rapists are motivated not by sexual desire, but by a desire to committ an act of violence.

That is what I was saying about rape.

I supose you can come up with a fact pattern where the woman or the man is being coerced to the point that they don't feel they have the option to refuse the sex. Therefore, you could argue that there was no consent, and thus a rape.

The fact pattern you describe sounds like sexual harrassment.

purse junkie

04-03-2003 05:36 PM

In defense of Elvis

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Holy crap. You really are a man.

Or Barbi Benton.

sebastian_dangerfield

04-03-2003 05:38 PM

In defense of Elvis

Quote:

Originally posted by JustForFun
I didn't say without violence there was always consent, which is what you are saying.

I said rape is an act of violence and that there is no consent. With the exception of statutory rape, where the victim is considered incompetent to give consent, the absence of consent is what makes a sexual act a rape. The motivation for the sexual act is to commit an act of violence. But sexual desire is not part of the equation. It is an act born of violence.

If there is no consent, it is a rape by definition and rapists are motivated not by sexual desire, but by a desire to committ an act of violence.

That is what I was saying about rape.

I supose you can come up with a fact pattern where the woman or the man is being coerced to the point that they don't feel they have the option to refuse the sex. Therefore, you could argue that there was no consent, and thus a rape.

The fact pattern you describe sounds like sexual harrassment.

JFF,

Get rid of your tag line. It sounds like an ad for the Oxygen channel or Lifetime.

S(changing pants, one day at a time)D

robustpuppy

04-03-2003 05:38 PM

Liberty Avenue, USGAY

Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does Liberty Avenue, USGAY mean?

ABBA, no good can come from this.

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