Because you all have such good taste.
 

Good question. They were both pretty equally effusive, but in different ways.

Fashion Emergency
 

I don't like the linen ones from Bliss all that much either.

But what dtb wants, dtb gets. In Bisbee or elsewhere.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

No. It's all subjective. I like 400 lb women with huge hairy moles everywhere. Who are you to tell me they're unattractive?

I think assholes are beautiful. I've petitioned Playboy for more red-eye for years. Alas, they claim some generally accepted standard of beauty applies.

Open Memo to the Board
 

All:

I was getting ready to vote in the Shifter poll, and unfortunately, my honest vote was not going to be wholly complimentary or fulfilling to him (or at least I imagine that to be the case)...

Anyhoo, my less than perfect vote started to feel at odds with my oath to be more kinder, gentler and well behaviouralised, and so, I decided not to vote....a second time (I had already voted once, before the above realisation hit me)....

Further, I decided that for me, and this is just for me and not a statement or judgment on anyone else, I am no longer ranking any of the members here (or their socks, individually and collectively) on subjective criteria such as their looks, ratios or weight et al etc. etc. I find you all beautiful in your own ways, except to the extent that you are not....

Anyhoo, in conclusion, I will continue to rate and judge people by objectively empirical criteria, eg: IQ, 5K PR, Leadville 100 PR, LSAT et al etc. etc., as and if applicable, but no more subjective ranking for me.

Carry on.

Regards,

P

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Ugly is truly rare, but unattractive is pretty commonplace. In this regard, ugly is exotic, and therefore attractive in its own way, while unattractive remains bland and, well, unattractive.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I bet I can guess which one used the word "fabulous."

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Wonk thinks I'm butt. let's get that out of the way. ha.

No the harsh way you initially worded it left room for doubt. it was a damning missive not softened by any sort of throw her a bone type softening type language that is generally couched as tact. You are a wordsmith. Even if your brash on line persona is known for not pulling any punches you could have softened the blow and you chose not to. I bet you money after today shapey won't go all batshit on me about how ugly I am and how my bra I must be lying.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I disagree. I see ugly and fat and nasty all day in NYC. Perhaps not so much in your fair city?

Because you all have such good taste.
 

How would "throwing you a bone" have changed his assessment of you?

Because you all have such good taste.
 

You're the poster formerly know as NotMe, aren't you?

Because you all have such good taste.
 

The bra discrepancy can be objectively settled once and for all and I encourage Shifter to fairly assess the size label.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Where does "not unattractive" fall? Are there more people who are "not unattractive" than there are "unattractive" people?

Because I'm really very fond of "not unattractive."

Because you all have such good taste.
 

You catch on quick NOT! But then you would have saved us 11000 posts.

There are times that being honest is not a desireable trait?

Do I look fat in this dress?
Were you listening to me?
Is your chicken fresh?
Is your buffalo wing sauce spicy?

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I suggest drawing a Venn Diagram on your rolling papers.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Shapey was raised in more or less the south and is polite and gentlemanly. He probably still gets all screwed up on elevators in TCOTU because he tries to make way for women when it's just a cutthroat shoving match. So I think you can rest assured that whatever he thinks, and whatever he may say to various people with whom he is closeish friends, he will neither tell you to your face nor describe on the board the ways in which you fail to be attractive.

Unless you really piss him off.

Or unless TCOTU has changed him a lot.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

1. I've never been accused of being a wordsmith. It's an unfair and unkind thing to say and I want you to take it back.

2. I told you I would be straightforward. In this case, "throwing you a bone" would mean I wasn't being truthful. I said exactly what I thought in the most straightforward way. If you are upset because I didn't say that someone could find you attractive, I can't be sorry for that. Straightforward means straightforward. Ask a wordsmith.

3. You have basically said you would have posted exactly what I said, except you would have thrown in something that wasn't true. There was no blow to soften. I didn't say you were ugly. I said you were not pretty. If you have been walking around thinking you're pretty, then, I can see how your feelings got hurt. But I didn't embellish. Like I said, I was straightforward.

TM

Fashion Emergency
 

The lost and found for stuff found on the short bus.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

That's like 60% of people. Its truly rare to meet someone you can actually say is "ugly." Unattractive is a common thing.

I think most of us fall into the not unattractive category, but it has many grades within it.

Of course, none of this means anything if you subscribe to ppnyc's Jeff Skilling-esque booking of "attractive."

Because you all have such good taste.
 

How did you know about the elevators? Freaky.

I still hold out hope....
 

Sorry but that would be pot:kettle, since you spend your entire day on an internet board with lawyers, with the highlight being you get to publicly declare some paralegal fat. It may be worth a brief chuckle, but you're retarded that you practically live for this shit. Anyone stepping back for a while can see both you and patentpara are equally retarded. Sorry, but that's the honest truth.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I have an ex-boyfriend who has fibrous dysplasia. His head is literally deformed by weird bone growths in his skull (actually right now it's deformed because half his skull isn't there and he's waiting for the metal plate to be constructed, but I digress). He, objectively, is probably ugly or at least grotesque (at least, before he had the surgery, I haven't seen him since the surgery, and there was a plastic surgeon involved in putting him back together again).

But when we were dating, I found him to be attractive. He has some rather remarkable features that help lessen the deformities and he does what he can to draw your attention away from the top of his head. I guess I'm saying that ugly people can be attractive, at least if they have other good qualities that minimize their flaws.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I saw it happen to a fellow associate when we had to go to TCOTU for due diligence on something the client didn't buy.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

You didn't answer the question. I was asking for splits betweeen "attractive" "not unattractive" and "unattractive."

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Did you have sexual relations with that woman?

I still hold out hope....
 

That is what I mean. He *SO* lives to do stuff like that. At my expense. which I volunteered for. which makes me a frickin dolt. But I got my way. At the min. even if I don't ah, meet his standards, even he agrees I am not ugly.

And Sebby I see plenty o ugly. it ain't rare. UGLY AND OLD maybe you drive in.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

You are again proving you are the patron saint of this board. I bow down. good person, you are.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Translation: He had an enormous cock.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

That is what I am saying. Not only was Thurgreed NotPolite but he was gleaning enjoyment from his put downs. That is like an ugly side of a person....Shapey is much more polite.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I think that to the extent you love or like someone very much, they become attractive to you. I think I have said this before. You find something about them to be attractive, like their eyes or their hands or whatever.

That's not the same as "pretty" or "cute" or "handsome" though.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

That, and he loved loved loved to give head.

Fashion Emergency
 

Somewhere, someone might find them attractive. Even pretty. Don't be such a hard grader.

I still hold out hope....
 

Sorry, but like I said I find you as retarded as TM. And now you want some other anonymous lawyer on a message board to say whether you are pretty after he offered to rate you on a "how much I'd like to hit that" scale. Amazing.

I still hold out hope....
 

No, your retarded. Burger should start a poll.

We pause from the ppnyc show for this brief public service announcement
 

Done. Your thermometer is now full.


eta: And you are most hot. Objectively.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

Or was really good with the little man on the boat.

I still hold out hope....
 

Thanks Diane. and I of course, conveniently ommitted how well liked you are on this and the infirm board. mmmm hmmm

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I think TM was probably spot-on in his assessment,* and Shapey might be equally blunt if he were, say, talking to me on the phone. But you were an idiot to expect TM not to be totally blunt. I would never in a million years ask TM of all people to evaluate me to the board.

*possibly a little off on the "good personality" part.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I wouldn't wish the experience you've had over the past couple of days on my worst enemy, but you have to admit you gave him so much ammunition, not only by agreeing to such a meeting under such terms in the first place, but also by not letting the topic drop and trying to get him to change his mind or his public statements. It's that persistence that has contributed to the pile-on and the repetition of comments about your looks, which, if you are attentive, you will notice not everyone has participated in even where they have otherwise commented.

Most people here do not care about your looks, or anybody else's, one way or the other. You should really stop obsessing about this.

Because you all have such good taste.
 

I think Gauguin said "The ugly can be beautiful, but the merely pretty, never."


At least it says he said that in Even Cowgirls Get The Blues.

Fashion Emergency
 

That is correct. I just ask the universe for what I want and ..., voila!

Still looking for the pants. No luck yet. Sometimes the universe is busy tending to someone else's needs.