LawTalkers - Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Some guys have this problem as well - I recall showering in a group shower in college with a white cat I knew from Sweden who had a totally brown dick. It was like he'd had a transplant.

Was it brown for the duration of the shower?

TM

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

05-30-2003 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
This reminds me of the time (before law school) when the company I worked at sent out a memo the we would have to pay for our own business cards and that the company would no longer send out pens and note pads - we would have to provide our own. Seems that we were using, on average, 24 pens per month per store! Wow, that's a whole $2. So when the reps heard that we had to pay for our own business cards, and how pissed off we were about it - it got back to the owners. Turns out a guy with his own Bentley and 727 doesn't want people to think he's cheap. Then they started paying for our business cards after that. I'm guessing if people start talking about how "cheap" and petty the firm is, the issue goes away.
:idea:

Although my law firm didn't take away supplies, they did move them to a central supply room, and away from the supplies closet on each floor. Turns out that every August, the supply of pens, pencils, notepads, and notebooks took a precipitous decline. The cheap-bastard partners were apparently loading up for their poor children.

leagleaze

05-30-2003 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

It's totally fucked up that employers are foisting off the costs of doing business on their employees. Nobody should be nickel and dimed to death, merely because only nickels and dimes are at stake in any given instance.

My employer is nickel and diming us, we have been in a bit of, well not really a bit of, a huge deficit, given our budget. Over the past few months, I and the other attorneys have managed to decrease it to where it is almost entirely gone, and it should be gone by next month. I don't work in a firm as most of you know, I am as much a business woman as I am a lawyer. So we aren't talking billing here, the only time I fill out a time sheet is when I let them know I am going to take a couple vacation days.

The thing is however that we didn't pull ourselves out of the slump by nickel and diming, that had no real impact. The impact came from the level of work being performed by the attorneys and the support staff. What they cannot seem to get through their heads is that by nickel and diming us they impact the morale and make people want to leave. You cannot expect people to work their asses off for you continuously and then do stupid shit like this. This was not an edict from on high, but we have gotten some winners of late I have to say. None of them directly impacted me, but it was almost like you could feel the morale slip with each one. Sort of like a tree slowly being chopped down.

If I, or one of the other attorneys who have been around long enough to be making a major contribution should leave, they would be very screwed. Because it takes a new employee (and we have a couple new ones) a good long time to learn how to do what we do, and we have to carry them for a while before they can carry themselves. I'd say I bring in about 10% give or take, of the money we make. I'd also say it took me a good year before I was carrying myself, and a couple of years to get to the point where I am now.

So if I left, they'd not only lose that 10% for at least a little while, they would have someone acting as a financial drain (along with his or her staff which had been productive under me, but would take some time to learn to be productive under someone else.)

Why can employers never seem to understand, your people are your real value? It doesn't matter whether you sell, you bill, you create, or you sit and answer phones. People are not as easily replaced as some bosses like to say, especially in a job that requires a lot of training and/or time to learn They need to show their appreciation to keep employees happy, make them good workers, and keep them around. The last thing they need to do is say buy your own pens, paper, what have you.

I have yet to see a law firm, a company like mine, or really many companies at all that understand this basic concept. It's nuts.

So....anyone hiring?

sebastian_dangerfield

05-30-2003 04:02 PM

Great, something new to be paranoid about

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Was it brown for the duration of the shower?

TM

Nah, I helped him clean it off.

S(hey... what can I say? I was feelin frisky...)D

Gattigap

05-30-2003 04:02 PM

Dicks in Porn

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Originally posted by LessinSF
Sebby: "This leads into my next point - dicks ruin porn. Sure, money shots are amusing, kinda like a dramatic peak in a movie, but do we males really need to see spewing cocks in these flicks/photos? I would like to start an "All Naked" channel where models and regular women just walk around naked all day. Each woman gets 15 minutes on screen and they run in loops like MTV runs videos. No dicks, no hard core spread shots - just naked hotties and amateurs. I think this format would be absolutely addictive."

You may be right (i.e. I know other men who think like you), but you wouldn't get my money. Dicks are necessary to porn for me, and I want insertion. For me, the fantasy is that I get to fuck her, or she blows me, or whatever, and I place myself in that guy's position. Cinemax, Playboy, or cable porn with all the penetration scenes removed don't excite me, they frustrate me. With a magazine, I'm using the pictorials in this order: (1) with a guy in them; (2) with toys in them (because I can fantasize that the implement is my dick); and (3) the girl/girls sans guys.

I am so glad that magazines finally show penetration - the simulated sex pictorials were uber-frustrating. I would keep turning the pages hoping (although knowing it wasn't going to happen) to see a pic where her lips actually touched his dick. That, however, does kind of make Sebby's point - that people will keep watching hoping that something more happens, but eventually something has to happen.

Put another way, I enjoy the buildup and the (cock) tease, but ultimately there has to be closure. I think for similar reason, pure handjobs have never appealed to me and will rarely get me off; however, if I think there is a chance that there will eventually be some oral contact, and that comes (yes, comes) to fruition, I don't need more. For example, one girl was jacking me off for several minutes before she simply kissed the tip of my penis, and boom, get the Kleenex. YMMV.

I think you've been waiting for 3 months for the opportunity to write that post. You must be immensely relieved.

paigowprincess

05-30-2003 04:07 PM

Roast Beef and Honkytonk/cowboy bars in DC

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
First off, is the key to the Mary will undress for you the "for you " part? The ego is all part of the male fantasy right?

Second, and I am scared to ask this and will probably reqret it. But, I wont let that stop me. What is the difference between "pink" and a "spoonful of roast beef"? Huge labia? Dark skin? I never really thought of vaginas as "attractive" like breassts are. When the camera gets in too close, my reaction is "please, I am not a gynocologist for a reason" To me they are all kind of equally weird looking. I dont get it. SO explain the difference between pink and roast beef.

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1. Ego is for social invalids with small dicks (See: 9 out of 10 law firm partners you know). I just like looking at naked chicks. No need to conquer or seduce - how one gets to the pleasure he seeks seems immaterial to me. I'm not a "thrill of the chase" kinda cat. Just gimme what I want.

2. Some chicks have a roast beefy look to their vaginas - the outer part seems to be like the more cooked part of rare roast beefy, and the inside is, well, pink. This is most pronounced in chicks with huge labia - and you're right - as Warren Zevon (the spirits bless him) would say, "it ain't that pretty at all." The color scheme differs from chick to chick. Some guys have this problem as well - I recall showering in a group shower in college with a white cat I knew from Sweden who had a totally brown dick. It was like he'd had a transplant.

Oh how gross. Do the roast beef girls usually have brown nips? And are they usually darker in complexion and or hair and eye color? Maybe the swedish guy had the Bill Clinton thing- didht he have brown on his dick or something?

And for something totally diff that should probably go on the DC board but that isnt a high traffic place, and this board has lots of former DC people. Can someone recommend a great honktonk/cowboy bar in the areas? I love the Cowboy Bar on the Upper East Side that I think may no longer be there. Anything similar? A Hogs and Heffers place would work as well, even though it is so totally assjack. My inner redneck (not to be confused with my outer pink) needs a giddy-up

lookingformarket

05-30-2003 04:12 PM

Great, something new to be paranoid about

Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Was it brown for the duration of the shower?

TM

I'll bet it was brown intermittently

sebastian_dangerfield

05-30-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
My employer is nickel and diming us, we have been in a bit of, well not really a bit of, a huge deficit, given our budget. Over the past few months, I and the other attorneys have managed to decrease it to where it is almost entirely gone, and it should be gone by next month. I don't work in a firm as most of you know, I am as much a business woman as I am a lawyer. So we aren't talking billing here, the only time I fill out a time sheet is when I let them know I am going to take a couple vacation days.

The thing is however that we didn't pull ourselves out of the slump by nickel and diming, that had no real impact. The impact came from the level of work being performed by the attorneys and the support staff. What they cannot seem to get through their heads is that by nickel and diming us they impact the morale and make people want to leave. You cannot expect people to work their asses off for you continuously and then do stupid shit like this. This was not an edict from on high, but we have gotten some winners of late I have to say. None of them directly impacted me, but it was almost like you could feel the morale slip with each one. Sort of like a tree slowly being chopped down.

If I, or one of the other attorneys who have been around long enough to be making a major contribution should leave, they would be very screwed. Because it takes a new employee (and we have a couple new ones) a good long time to learn how to do what we do, and we have to carry them for a while before they can carry themselves. I'd say I bring in about 10% give or take, of the money we make. I'd also say it took me a good year before I was carrying myself, and a couple of years to get to the point where I am now.

So if I left, they'd not only lose that 10% for at least a little while, they would have someone acting as a financial drain (along with his or her staff which had been productive under me, but would take some time to learn to be productive under someone else.)

Why can employers never seem to understand, your people are your real value? It doesn't matter whether you sell, you bill, you create, or you sit and answer phones. People are not as easily replaced as some bosses like to say, especially in a job that requires a lot of training and/or time to learn They need to show their appreciation to keep employees happy, make them good workers, and keep them around. The last thing they need to do is say buy your own pens, paper, what have you.

I have yet to see a law firm, a company like mine, or really many companies at all that understand this basic concept. It's nuts.

So....anyone hiring?

Leagl,

Welcome to the new economy, or lack thereof. Oh, and welcome to Shitsylvania. This state wasn't in the black in the boom and certainly isn't going to be now. My advice - get out of here. The economy will be fucked for years long after you're dead and gone.

As to employers screwing workers, I think the shit rolling downhill principle applies. Nobody in this state is getting rich right now... save the psychiatrists and pushers (who appear more and more to legal and illegal counterparts).

I have work out the ass but no one paying for any of it. Trying to keep a healthy retainer from a mid sized business these days is like trying to siphon gas from a car with a leaky tank. You may get some on the first pull, but you're lucky if you get fumes on the second. And this shit ain't changing any time soon - all the indicators suggest that you strap in tight. A recovery this year about as likely as you getting up tomorrow and finding you're pregnant.

S(my advice is to have a drink after work today and concentrate on "living" for the next year or so, because no one is going to be productive)D

sebastian_dangerfield

05-30-2003 04:17 PM

Roast Beef and Honkytonk/cowboy bars in DC

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Oh how gross. Do the roast beef girls usually have brown nips? And are they usually darker in complexion and or hair and eye color? Maybe the swedish guy had the Bill Clinton thing- didht he have brown on his dick or something?

And for something totally diff that should probably go on the DC board but that isnt a high traffic place, and this board has lots of former DC people. Can someone recommend a great honktonk/cowboy bar in the areas? I love the Cowboy Bar on the Upper East Side that I think may no longer be there. Anything similar? A Hogs and Heffers place would work as well, even though it is so totally assjack. My inner redneck (not to be confused with my outer pink) needs a giddy-up

Paigow,

You say "brown nips" like its a bad thing. The darker the nips the better. Nothing is worse than those barely pink hardly-discrenible-from-the-skin-around-the-areola nips.

S(Georgia O'Keefe was way off... way fucking off...)D

ThurgreedMarshall

05-30-2003 04:18 PM

Dicks in Porn

Quote:

Originally posted by LessinSF
For example, one girl was jacking me off for several minutes before she simply kissed the tip of my penis, and boom, get the Kleenex.

Translation: The last time I was on the bus, rubbing my thing against this lady's leg, I came all over myself when she stopped putting on her lipstick and told me to back the fuck up.

TM

carp	05-30-2003 04:26 PM

Roast Beef and Honkytonk/cowboy bars in DC

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
My inner redneck (not to be confused with my outer pink) needs a giddy-up

Can't do much better than JJW (Jerry Jeff Walker) at the Birchmere on June 1. 3701 Mount Vernon Ave., Alexandria. I know its a music venue, but the music can't be beat and the beer is cold. So turn your inner out and your outer in and enjoy.

barely_legal

05-30-2003 04:29 PM

Did anybody watch this last night? I know you did....

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I laughed so hard I almost wet my pants when Steve's girlfriend Amanda was walking too slowly up the mountain and he screamed at her "come ON, Flo!"

I don't really love or hate anyone yet, but the guy who led the NFL wives to the earlier bus tickets because he didn't want "those blondes with the fake tits" to win cracked me up.

I think I'll root for the clowns right now. They remind me of the brothers in the last season who were my favorite. And I want the "Dating 12 Years/Virgins" couple to last a while just b/c I crack up every time their description comes on the screen.

leagleaze

05-30-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

S(my advice is to have a drink after work today and concentrate on "living" for the next year or so, because no one is going to be productive)D

You are so depressing sometimes. I still love you though.

We are actually very busy, people are buying like crazy (go figure) and I haven't had time to focus on a job search at all.

Actually, I'd be thrilled for any advice anyone wants to offer. I've been in the same job almost 5 years now. I enjoy it, for the most part, it is a good job, but it saddens me to watch how upset some people have been made over the nickel and diming. I think I must be low maintenance because the stuff never really bothers me directly. However, when morale is low across an office, it affects everyone, no matter how much you try not to let it impact you.

I also, after 5 years want to try something else, and yes, I want to leave Pennsylvania, or at least Harrisburg. For some reason Harrisburg...not the best place for a gay, jewish woman. I know, I was surprised too!

So any thoughts folks, on begining a job search? I've started, with advice from someone who shall remain nameless, to narrow down locations based upon my interests. But I've never really conducted a job search, and so I don't really even know where to begin.

paigowprincess

05-30-2003 04:38 PM

Roast Beef and Honkytonk/cowboy bars in DC

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Originally posted by carp
Can't do much better than JJW (Jerry Jeff Walker) at the Birchmere on June 1. 3701 Mount Vernon Ave., Alexandria. I know its a music venue, but the music can't be beat and the beer is cold. So turn your inner out and your outer in and enjoy.

Thanks Carp. Are you that paralegal who is so dialed into the scene? I note a couple of things from their schedule

Jerry Jeff is playing on Monday, not Sunday, which is good bc I am doublebooked onSunday as it is.

Dar Williams, who I recall some of you guys love, is around for a couple of nights.

"Terence Trent D'Arby aka Sananda Maitreya"
Terence Tret Darby apprently had a sec change and got married and will be there. I saw him in some gay disco (not playing, just hanging) in Rio a zillion years ago. That explains a lot.

carp	05-30-2003 04:44 PM

Roast Beef and Honkytonk/cowboy bars in DC

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Are you that paralegal who is so dialed into the scene? I note a couple of things from their schedule.

I've been called alotta things, but never a paralegal. Thank you for that. Its a great way to start a great weekend. As for who I really am, I am just a redneck mother (gender non-specific, of course) who is up against the wall with the London Homesick Blues.

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