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Atticus Grinch 06-20-2005 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
This describes your wife on our last date.
WHIFFARINO!

Love the sig line.

Hank Chinaski 06-20-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by soup sandwich
In related news, I attended my 3 year-old's ballet recital this weekend. Having had no sisters, I had never attended one before. It wasn't so bad. Certainly the parts where Soupette#1 was on stage were great. I guess the question is whether after 10 years of these things I'll still feel the same way.
Most of them I've seen involve the 40 classes that a dance studio has, each doing 2 numbers, so you're there for 3 hours to see your kid's 10 minutes. The other kids tend to be cute, but it does get old. Occasionally you get a chubby 30-40 year old guy trying to "discover" a new side of himself and doing a solo. I enjoyed these.

Atticus Grinch 06-20-2005 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The other kids tend to be cute, but it does get old. Occasionally you get a chubby
Should we be relieved it's only "occasionally"?

Flinty_McFlint 06-20-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I think Meg White is living proof of the fact that while girls can be in bands, they cannot necessarily learn to play drums.
That's just ignant, Atticus.

Hank Chinaski 06-20-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I think Meg White is living proof of the fact that while girls can be in bands, they cannot necessarily learn to play drums.
Do you ever get a specific sense of ennui over your overall sense of ennui?

Atticus Grinch 06-20-2005 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Do you ever get a specific sense of ennui over your overall sense of ennui?
Don't you find it kind of annoying when a person uses a rhetorical question to change the subject?

TexLex 06-23-2005 02:32 PM

Baked or not, the kid will be here on Monday at noon. Any bets as to size/length? I haven't bothered washing any 0-3 clothes this time.

Flinty_McFlint 06-23-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by TexLex
Baked or not, the kid will be here on Monday at noon. Any bets as to size/length? I haven't bothered washing any 0-3 clothes this time.
I need to try and hedge my NBA bet with Hank, so sure. I say: 9 lbs, 2 oz, 23 inches long. My sincerest apologies to your nether regions, please give them my regards. Also, please ask for my toothbrush back.

Seriously, good luck!

robustpuppy 06-23-2005 06:08 PM

For SEC chick
 
On maternity clothes: Gap and Old Navy are decent for basics. Gap is better for office casual -- it has good crisp cotton pants and shirts and skirts and the best yoga pants on earth. A Pea In the Pod is a fucking rip off with draconian return policies (store credit only), and Motherhood and Mimi are not even worth visiting. Also, don't buy too much at first, you might develop unanticipated dislikes and discomforts and find you wear the same things repeatedly and let other things languish in the closet.

I have no advice regarding more professional clothing. My office is very casual so I could get away with flip flops.

SEC_Chick 06-23-2005 08:19 PM

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Thanks. My office is fairly casual as well (worn a suit only once in the year I've been here). While I couldn't pull off yoga pants (well, on a Friday I could), it sounds like the Gap might suit my needs. Thanks for the advice against buying too much at first. I am also afraid that I will outgrow the first batch towards the end and want to be prepared to have to buy more to accomodate my temporary (Lord willing) girth.

Hmmmm... the Gap in the Galleria is reported to sell maternity. I assume that the online selection will be better than in-store, but at least I can check out the goods.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-23-2005 08:27 PM

For SEC chick
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
On maternity clothes: Gap and Old Navy are decent for basics. Gap is better for office casual -- it has good crisp cotton pants and shirts and skirts and the best yoga pants on earth. A Pea In the Pod is a fucking rip off with draconian return policies (store credit only), and Motherhood and Mimi are not even worth visiting.
My wife was a fan of Japanese Weekend. Eventually, she was a big fan.

tmdiva 06-24-2005 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
On maternity clothes: Gap and Old Navy are decent for basics. Gap is better for office casual -- it has good crisp cotton pants and shirts and skirts and the best yoga pants on earth.
And don't forget Target. The Liz Lange stuff looks like some of it might be work-worthy.

My first pregnancy coincided with the advent of Gap Maternity (and preceded Old Navy Maternity), and back then they had only a very few pieces, most of it work-worthy. Still one of my favorites is a 3/4 sleeve, boat-neck, mid-calf black matte jersey dress that can be worn anywhere and flatters the body without being too formfitting. If you can find one of these on ebay, do it.

This time around, Old Navy is not working for me in pants, but I have their perfect Ts in every possible color. Pants are all from Gap and Target.

tm

Trepidation_Mom 06-27-2005 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by tmdiva
And don't forget Target. The Liz Lange stuff looks like some of it might be work-worthy.
At Target it is - the Liz Lange stuff from the Liz Lange shops sucks. And is too small (I was a size 6 who put on a total of 22 pounds, and I was a size extra large in that stuff). And it looks nasty - much nastier than the stuff at Target. Go figure.
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My first pregnancy coincided with the advent of Gap Maternity (and preceded Old Navy Maternity), and back then they had only a very few pieces, most of it work-worthy. Still one of my favorites is a 3/4 sleeve, boat-neck, mid-calf black matte jersey dress that can be worn anywhere and flatters the body without being too formfitting. If you can find one of these on ebay, do it.
I heartily second the suggestion to get everything you can on eBay. There is a ton of stuff, new with tags, and you can probably get most Gap maternity stuff there in any size any day of the week.

My favorite dress was a silk Gap Maternity sundress. I tied a contrasting ribbon above my stomach. It was very cute.
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This time around, Old Navy is not working for me in pants, but I have their perfect Ts in every possible color. Pants are all from Gap and Target.
I didn't find the old navy stuff until I was looking to improve a relative's maternity wardrobe, but it is basically Gap maternity, slightly more casual and a lot less expensive.

H&M also had some good maternity clothing, but only a few of their shops carry it. I got some really cute things very reasonably there (like, $30 for a dress and $20 for a top).

That said, I spent a certain amount of money on a few really nice maternity dresses and trousers, and it did make a difference in having a decent, wearable wardrobe overall. I have a jersey Leona Edmiston dress that I still wear (actually, it sounds a lot like the black jersey 3/4 sleeve boatneck dress described above from Gap). I got some really cute pants from Chaiken and 1 et 1 font 3, and the Nicole Caramel stuff is generally lovely if you can find it. (I'm trying to remember some of the other companies, but my entire maternity wardrobe has been making the rounds for the last year, it's on it's third pregnancy now - it gets out more than I do at this point.)

Anyhow, given that cute maternity clothes are so thin on the ground, using the internet generally was useful - using the magnifying effects of online shopping means that you can actually find more than one or two decent things on a given shopping "excursion."

Cute maternity links I've still got hanging around:

Best maternity shop in Manhattan: http://www.veroniquematernity.com/

http://www.pushmaternity.com/ (very pricey, and the exchange rate will kill you, but they had some great dresses)

http://www.isabellaoliver.com/ (less expensive, but still with the killer exchange rate. Not as pricey as Pea in the Pod, anyhow, and a lot better looking. It's basically all comfy stretch jersey stuff that actually looks good because it's well designed.)

robustpuppy 07-06-2005 04:25 PM

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Anyone have a good suggestion for places to hunt for old-fashioned baby dresses -- you know, cotton, with a peter pan collars, smocking on the chest, puffed sleeves with eyelet trim, and matching pantaloons to go over the diaper? I am trying to find something very similar to my mother's favorite baby dress for me, which I wore in a number of pictures. You know, just in case the puppy is a girl.

bold_n_brazen 07-06-2005 09:06 PM

Baby Clothes
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Anyone have a good suggestion for places to hunt for old-fashioned baby dresses -- you know, cotton, with a peter pan collars, smocking on the chest, puffed sleeves with eyelet trim, and matching pantaloons to go over the diaper? I am trying to find something very similar to my mother's favorite baby dress for me, which I wore in a number of pictures. You know, just in case the puppy is a girl.
Mrs. Bird.

In the alternative, I'd suggest finding a decent seamstress in your area and having one made.

viet_mom 07-07-2005 11:27 AM

Baby Clothes
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Anyone have a good suggestion for places to hunt for old-fashioned baby dresses -- you know, cotton, with a peter pan collars, smocking on the chest, puffed sleeves with eyelet trim, and matching pantaloons to go over the diaper? I am trying to find something very similar to my mother's favorite baby dress for me, which I wore in a number of pictures. You know, just in case the puppy is a girl.
Smocking, sailor necks, tiny flower prints, petticoats. Oh, the joys of Curls and Giggles. http://www.gigglesncurls.com

I would also try http://www.janieandjack.com

April Cornell used to have a ton of exactly what you're looking for but I don't see the famous infant dresses on their site anymore. http://www.aprilcornell.com

robustpuppy 07-07-2005 04:21 PM

Baby Clothes
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. Everything is so cute, but I am the biggest sucker for those vintage dresses on the site to which bnb linked.

Not the same style, but the stuff at Hanna Andersson is also really cute. http://www.hannaandersson.com/home.asp

Atticus Grinch 07-07-2005 11:43 PM

Baby Clothes
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Not the same style, but the stuff at Hanna Andersson is also really cute. http://www.hannaandersson.com/home.asp
Suggestion: when you have just given birth to the last of however many kids your rational brain has decided to have, send a letter to Hanna Andersson explaining that you are dead and therefore have no further need to receive her catalog. A word to the wise is sufficient.

robustpuppy 07-08-2005 10:38 AM

Baby Clothes
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Suggestion: when you have just given birth to the last of however many kids your rational brain has decided to have, send a letter to Hanna Andersson explaining that you are dead and therefore have no further need to receive her catalog. A word to the wise is sufficient.
Aha. I haven't ordered anything yet. I'll be sure to let the grandmother-to-be, who adores the stuff, know about it.

Now if I could just get freakin' Pottery Barn to leave me alone. I really hope the U.S.P.S. does not forward catalogs. Maybe those will get lost along with the important stuff that never gets forwarded.

spookyfish 07-08-2005 11:04 AM

Baby Clothes
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Now if I could just get freakin' Pottery Barn to leave me alone. I really hope the U.S.P.S. does not forward catalogs.
Postmaster General: "Oh, my goodness. What have they done to you here?"

Kramer: "Huh? Who are you?"

Postmaster General: "Well, you can just call me Henry."

Kramer: "Henry Atkins? The postmaster general?"

Postmaster General: "Last time I checked."

Kramer: "Henry... can I get out of here now?"

Postmaster General: "Oh, oh. Sit a bit. Sit a bit. I mean, after all, I drove all the way up here from D.C. just to talk to you."

Kramer: "Oh?"

Postmaster General: "I even had to cancel a round of golf with the secretary of state. Do you like golf, Mr. Kramer?"

Kramer: "Yeah."

Postmaster General: "Kramer, I've been, uh, reading some of your material here. I gotta be honest with you: you make a pretty strong case. I mean, just imagine. An army of men in wool pants running through the neighborhood handing out pottery catalogs, door to door."

Kramer: "Yeah! Ha ha."

Postmaster General: "Well, it's my job. And I'm pretty damn serious about it. In addition to being a postmaster, I'm a general. And we both know, it's the job of a general to, by God, get things done. So maybe you can understand why I get a little irritated when someone calls me away from my golf."

Kramer: "I'm very, very sorry."

Postmaster General: "Sure, you're sorry. I think we got a stack of mail out at the desk that belongs to you. Now, you want that mail, don't you Mr. Kramer?"

Kramer: "Sure do!"

Postmaster General, receiving a salute from Kramer: "Now, that's better."

Kramer (seeing Newman walk into the office with a bucket on his head, escorted by a security man): "Geez. Newman?"

Newman, (whimpering): "Tell the world my story."

Tyrone Slothrop 07-14-2005 01:39 PM

March of the Penguins
 
Five-year-old appropriate, or too boring for that age?

Trepidation_Mom 07-14-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Five-year-old appropriate, or too boring for that age?
Well, I took the 14 month old to the zoo, and he thought the penguins were pretty boring. I don't think that helps you.

He did, however, find the bats and piranha fabulously entertaining. Particularly the bats. He fell asleep before we got to the alpaca, but I suspect he would have enjoyed the spitting.

viet_mom 07-14-2005 11:27 PM

March of the Penguins
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Five-year-old appropriate, or too boring for that age?
I think any documentary would be boring at that age, even the cute little penguins. Unless they break out in song, dance or one of the penguins is jive-talkin, it probably won't work out.

robustpuppy 07-15-2005 01:06 PM

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Too boring for a six-month old fetus?

ltl/fb 07-15-2005 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Too boring for a six-month old fetus?
You have a potential disaster on your hands there. Take it home immediately and make sure it doesn't go anywhere (other than maybe somewhere fun, like shopping or sunbathing).

Tyrone Slothrop 07-15-2005 06:36 PM

March of the Penguins
 
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Originally posted by Trepidation_Mom
Well, I took the 14 month old to the zoo, and he thought the penguins were pretty boring. I don't think that helps you.

He did, however, find the bats and piranha fabulously entertaining. Particularly the bats. He fell asleep before we got to the alpaca, but I suspect he would have enjoyed the spitting.
A word to the wise: 2 y.o.'s love otters.

pony_trekker 07-15-2005 08:20 PM

March of the Penguins
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Five-year-old appropriate, or too boring for that age?
Definitely NOT APPROPRIATE!!!


Spoiler:
There were quite a few scenes of dead penguin chicks and adults that troubled my 10 year old.

Penske_Account 07-20-2005 09:25 PM

March of the Penguins
 
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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Definitely NOT APPROPRIATE!!!

How about a six year old who is into animal planet?

TexLex 07-20-2005 09:25 PM

#2 is here and even got a name on the 2nd or 3rd day. He was only 9#12oz at 38w - much smaller than we had thought, but still a fair size. Other than the kid, July has not been the stellar month I imagined: long story short....moderate spinal headache + high fever/infection of undetermined origin + second lumbar puncture to rule out meningitis = debilitating spinal headache, several trips to the ER, a vast amount of morphine (not nearly as fun as it sounds), 11 extra days in the hospital. Thank goodness for health insurance.

If anyone knows me IRL, please feel free to volunteer your toddler-sitting services before he finally succeeds in killing off #2.

robustpuppy 07-21-2005 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by TexLex
#2 is here and even got a name on the 2nd or 3rd day. He was only 9#12oz at 38w - much smaller than we had thought, but still a fair size. Other than the kid, July has not been the stellar month I imagined: long story short....moderate spinal headache + high fever/infection of undetermined origin + second lumbar puncture to rule out meningitis = debilitating spinal headache, several trips to the ER, a vast amount of morphine (not nearly as fun as it sounds), 11 extra days in the hospital. Thank goodness for health insurance.

If anyone knows me IRL, please feel free to volunteer your toddler-sitting services before he finally succeeds in killing off #2.
Whoa. Congratulations and there, there, hope you feel better soon and aren't overloaded with insurance paperwork.

What is a spinal headache? Was this all connected to the c-section or just coincidental?

mommylawyer 07-21-2005 02:38 PM

#2 is here and even got a name on the 2nd or 3rd day. He was only 9#12oz at 38w - much smaller than we had thought, but still a fair size. Other than the kid, July has not been the stellar month I imagined: long story short....moderate spinal headache + high fever/infection of undetermined origin + second lumbar puncture to rule out meningitis = debilitating spinal headache, several trips to the ER, a vast amount of morphine (not nearly as fun as it sounds), 11 extra days in the hospital. Thank goodness for health insurance.

If anyone knows me IRL, please feel free to volunteer your toddler-sitting services before he finally succeeds in killing off #2.
___________________________________

Congrats on #2, wow...sounds traumatic...hopefully someone will chime in with some help - my two are only 16 months apart and although my MIL is a PIA, she was a great help during those first few weeks, and I wasn't receovering from all of that!

well wishes for a speedy recovery

ml

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-21-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy


What is a spinal headache? Was this all connected to the c-section or just coincidental?
If they don't get the depth of the epidural just right, lingering headaches can result.

More: med site

ltl/fb 07-21-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
If they don't get the depth of the epidural just right, lingering headaches can result.

More: med site
Blllleeeeeeaaaahhh I want to vomit. Good strategy to keep the childless of the M&D board.

robustpuppy 07-21-2005 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Blllleeeeeeaaaahhh I want to vomit. Good strategy to keep the childless of the M&D board.
And even those expecting children. I'm literally shuddering.

TexLex 07-21-2005 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
What is a spinal headache? Was this all connected to the c-section or just coincidental?
Thanks. Yay for good insurance with no paperwork involved. I didn't check the link, but A spinal headache is what you get when the teensy hole that they use for a spinal or epidural does not heal and spinal fluid leaks out into your system continually. It causes a nasty headache when you are not laying flat on your back. If they make another hole to check for meningitis, the headache gets about 10x worse and you start thinking brain tumor. It is more likely with an epi than a spinal due to the larger size of the hole with an epi. The relatively simple cure involves making yet another hole in your spine and shooting about 20cc of your own blood back in to clot over the hole(s) (which is not possible if you have any bacteria in your blood, which I did).

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-21-2005 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
And even those expecting children. I'm literally shuddering.
No one makes you get an epidural. Although I suspect that sometime partway into labor, you'll be begging for one, headaches be damned (esp. if you're birthing enchilada-boy).

dtb 07-21-2005 03:55 PM

Epidural, baby!
 
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dtb 07-21-2005 03:58 PM

Epidural, baby!
 
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Originally posted by dtb
I was in labor for 10 hours before I got the first epidural with my first child (I went into labor at about 11pm, and didn't go into the hospital until about 7am, and then they have to give you an IV, and this, and that... so it was after 9am before I finally had some relief). At one point, I remember screaming "JUST PUT THE FUCKING THING IN!!!" at the intern, who couldn't seem to find my vein. Not very ladylike, but I can assure you, I could not have cared less. My husband was horrified, but he didn't dare say anything. There is no freaking way I was doing that again (drug-free labor, that is).

With my second, I had an induced delivery. That delivery was virtually effortless, except for the 30 minutes or so that the anaesthetic nurse went MIA and couldn't give me a top-off (that bitch).

Both were 9+ pounders.

robustpuppy 07-21-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
No one makes you get an epidural. Although I suspect that sometime partway into labor, you'll be begging for one, headaches be damned (esp. if you're birthing enchilada-boy).
Or in the alternative, Smuggy McSpermMaker, you could come to the hospital with me and while in the throes of insurgency I could grab your balls so hard you cry until my kid goes to college. Just a thought.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-21-2005 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Or in the alternative, Smuggy McSpermMaker, you could come to the hospital with me and while in the throes of insurgency I could grab your balls so hard you cry until my kid goes to college. Just a thought.
The downfall of civilization began when husbands entered the delivery room.

Where's atticus these days, anyway?


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